GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO Q+A. I'M SUSAN WOOD. I HAVE TODAY ADVISED THE PRIME MINISTER I AM RESIGNING AS MINISTER. SHE'S GONE; MORE EMAILS ARE REVEALED; WHAT NOW FOR AN EMBATTLED NATIONAL PARTY? WE HAVE MORE ON THIS DEVELOPING STORY. WE'LL ASK DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER BILL ENGLISH FOR HIS REACTION. AND THEN TURN TO THE ECONOMY FOR THE FIRST TV DEBATE WITH THE MEN WHO HOPE TO BE THE NEXT FINANCE MINISTER ` BILL ENGLISH AND LABOUR'S DAVID PARKER JOIN POLITICAL EDITOR CORIN DANN. AND WE'LL ANALYSE ALL THE ISSUES WITH OUR EXTENDED PANEL ` POLITICAL SCIENTIST DR BRYCE EDWARDS, FORMER LABOUR PARTY CANDIDATE JOSIE PAGANI, METRO EDITOR SIMON WILSON AND PR CONSULTANT AND POLITICAL COMMENTATOR MATTHEW HOOTON. DUE TO THE LIVE NATURE OF Q+A, WE APOLOGISE FOR THE LACK OF CAPTIONS FOR SOME ITEMS. CAPTIONS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WITH FUNDING FROM NZ ON AIR. COPYRIGHT ABLE 2014 GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US. TO THE WEEK IN POLITICS ` WELCOME, CORIN. AND EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST 24 HOURS. WHAT A DRAMATIC DAY IN POLITICS. JUDITH COLLINS HAS RESIGNED AFTER A LEAKED EMAIL FROM 2011 WAS GIVEN TO THE PRIME MINISTER. IN IT, CAMERON SLATER CLAIMED MS COLLINS WAS 'GUNNING' FOR THE THEN SERIOUS FRAUD OFFICE DIRECTOR ADAM FEELEY. THE EMAIL THAT I'VE JUST RELEASED SUGGESTS THAT JUDITH COLLINS WAS INVOLVED WITH A BLOGGER IN 2011 AIMED AT UNDERMINING THE SERIOUS FRUAD OFFICE HEAD. I COMPLETELY REFUTE ANY SUCH ALLEGATIONS. AND THE SUNDAY STAR-TIMES HAS PUBLISHED MORE EMAILS AND THE SUNDAY STAR-TIMES HAS PUBLISHED MORE EMAILS FROM THE WHALEOIL CAMPAIGN TO TARGET ADAM FEELEY. CORIN. THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED IN OUR POLITICAL HISTORY? Extraordinary day yesterday to lose a Minister. This campaign is out of control for John key. Today the former boss of the failed finance company Hanover was allegedly linked to this. This is a huge bombshell that John Key will get caught up in. It's dragging his campaign down. WE DID ASK BOTH JOHN KEY AND CAMERON SLATER TO APPEAR ON OUR PROGRAMME; BOTH DECLINED. JUDITH COLLINS DID NOT RETURN OUR CALLS. BUT WE HAVE THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER BILL ENGLISH HERE AS PART OF OUR ECONOMY DEBATE. CORIN, YOU ARE GOING TO CHAT TO HIM SHORTLY. BUT FIRST LET'S HEAR WHAT CAMERON SLATER HAD TO SAY AFTER JUDITH COLLINS' RESIGNATION. DO YOU PLAN TO GIVE BACK DOUBLE? THERE'S DOZENS MORE EMAILS, DOZENS MORE REPORTERS. Do you think that's an acceptable way to operate as a public servant? SEND US YOUR THOUGHTS. WE'RE ON TWITTER AT NZQ AND A. YOU CAN EMAIL US AT Q+A AT TVNZ.CO.NZ OR TEXT YOUR THOUGHTS AND FIRST NAME TO 2211. KEEP THEM BRIEF. EACH TEXT COSTS 50C. LET'S GO TO CORIN NOW WITH NATIONAL AND LABOUR'S FINANCE SPOKESMEN. We need to deal with these allegations and the story that broken in the last 24 hours. How concerned are you with what you are now seeing in these e-mails? The implications would be serious. The prime Minister has instigated an enquiry into them. What about the allegations that Mark Hotchins is behind the smear campaign. This is bizarre and a serious issue. We're yet to see if it's correct or not. From what we've seen in the Sunday Star Times, the ministerial issue aside, what is this doing for New Zealand's investor confidence? Investor confidence is good and growing because it's all been deregulated. This is a relic of the past. It looks awful. Looking at Judith Collins, there is a Mark, so the link is there.Evidence has emerged that would warrant a wider enquiry. Do you think that these agencies have been got to in any way? Whatever the campaign might set out to achieve, we have high-level confidence and the serious fraud office. How can they have that confidence given what's just happened? You're talking about a campaign through the media. If there's lawbreaking, someone will have to investigate it. We have every confidence in the SFO. The've all been reframed and refrigerated. The names That have come up are a small fraction? David Parker, is a wider enquiry needed? A High Court judge would ensure judicial independence. We need to see how far this goes through government. The book was the tip of the iceberg. The public have a genuine interest in their financial beach. They can't invert this and say this is just politics as normal; this is absolutely unprecedented in the history of New Zealand. The justice minister is undermining an arm of justice. The Prime Minister misrepresenting advice from the Cabinet office which clear students Collins when she was tied up and conflict of interest, this goes to the heart of government. This is about ethics. Bill English, how does this make you feel about your government? I disagree with most of those comments. This is a serious issue. It's got to be sorted out one way or the other. We run an open, transparent government. Families, communities and businesses can see a way ahead. You said you didn't condone it at the finance leaders debate. Is there some sort of division and national? The Prime Minister said yesterday he made a judgement. He has a new set of facts today. He's made the right decisions. The question that people are asking is that you can't trust the Minister of justice, can you trust the justice system? She had a conflict of interest between her family and what she was doing in China. It's time we had those sorts of disclosures before the election. Bill English, has this become bigger than the campaign? No, it hasn't become bigger than the campaign. This is an argument about a blogger. David Parker, leadership starts at the top? This is a style of government that is unprecedented in New Zealand. The prime minister denied it was him that was involved. He was forced to admit he was. John key has been open and transparent. He's led this country with confidence through a tough time. Credible leadership is what is needed. We've been concerned about activities of a blogger. The serious issues are being dealt with. The allegations were unproven. The serious issue here has been the implication generated by the blogger about a minister in the government. THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO PAUSE. WELCOME BACK. Let's get on to the economy. The cost of living, Bill English.The 2.5% wage growth as good as it's going to get? We are on track. If we stay on that track with consistent growth, it won't be spectacular, but will deliver some of the more significant increase in incomes. The pre-election fiscal update shows that it's on the way down. Over the next three years, average rate growth is less than 1%. Exports are going down. The trend is New Zealand is looking like it's going to have 2% growth for the next 3 to 5 years. The trend is the government came to power saying it would go to 40%. They're going back to 26. When going to get wealthy as a country when we continue to not earn enough from our exports to pay for our interest and imports. It's not going to get better. We can't pretend we're going to make money from selling houses to each other. We have to push against speculation. We have to push through capital gains tax. That is the most important thing. Has he got a point? We're not getting enough money from the property sector. If you bring in a capital gains tax, if you raise income tax, if the government takes over the electricity in energy markets, that can store the economy. I want my share of the time. The people out there who are waiting for a pay rise will have to sit round and wait while a mixed opposition sorts out what they're going to do. Austalians own their banks plus ours. House prices have gone up $200,000. The IMF, the OCD, the Treasury, the reserve bank say you need investment chasing profit. You do that through more research and development. When we introduced our forestry package, our industry policy, they said they would invest. Why aren't exports increasing in your government? These guys are knocking our exports. They are wrong. In the case of exporters, they've done a fantastic job. They've got a high dollar. They've done well in the recession. They are happening now. The technology sector is taking off. There's a wide range of manufacturers who are now succeeding. The last thing they want is politicians setting high interest rates. They doN't want the government taking over the energy and housing markets. They want our changes to monetary policy to attempt to get our exchange rate are better levels. They see that we need to push our money from speculation. They may well do, but they are worried that you're going to have a government with the Greens in it and policies they don't like. We both want increases in research and development. We think there should be a different mechanism used. We have produced an alternative budget. The Greens didn't trust it. That's been out there for a couple of months. Nobody is blown a hole in our budget. They said they wanted that independently audited. That was a throwaway comment. Our budget surplus is bigger than yours. I want to come back to that point about the Greens. They have $10 billion of promises; you have your 15. They don't have another big party that might want economic development. We expect to be in charge of those settings. We promise to run budget surpluses. Would you go to $.40 on the dollar? We say the history of the MMP has the dominant party sets these settings. You don't believe they got those numbers right? Over the next three years, we would spend $10-$12 billion extra; they would spend 15. Labour and the Greens will raise income tax to pay for a lot more ways for spending. Our focus is on building confidence. They are really starting to get some momentum. The last thing we want is the straw that momentum. You haven't put out your fiscal numbers. We don't know how much you are going to spend on health and education. We put our numbers in the budget. Tomorrow you will be able to see in more detail the numbers. We spend a lot less and we don't raise taxes. The quality of our spending is much better specified because we spend for results. This spending on health and education. I've got to take issue with this idea. Kids learning, more elective surgery. David Parker, you throwing money at it? We're not spending a lot of money. The money that we're spending goes into economic development initiatives. It's going into Kiwi saver. We put money into child poverty. WE've got declining rates of home ownership. Your kids package shamefully excludes the kids in the poorest families. If we take the assumption that the got a poverty problem, why are you looking at tax cuts? We want to reward people getting ahead. That's why 1600 people a week are moving off welfare and into work. We have serious long-term welfare dependency and recidivism. We're boring into those things. What works for the community works for the government. When you protect an abused child, it saves you money. David Parker, you have a focus on universal sea. The point is why a giving $60 to someone on $140,000 when that money could be better directed at those at the very bottom? In respect of this, we have gone close to universal for the first year and then in years two and three it's targeted at families in need. You believe that it should be targeted at those poorest families, but you weren't politically able to do that? Our package is targeted years two and 3 to the low and middle income families. Bill English, how is New Zealand going to get a high wage, high-growth economy in the future? Looking ahead, they have the confidence with stable leadership and credible government to make the investment that's required. Half $1 billion from Fonterra the other day through processing. We can back that up with infrastructure investment. Too many New Zealanders can't take the high skilled job if they don't have the skills. David Parker, give us some vision for how you would get that step change. To be more productive, we've got to pull polls about own capital through more savings. All of that leads to high wages. Are we toO reliant on China? All of these markets are going to have similar characteristics of China, but it's good there are exports have been able to take advantage of China. What happened in recent months where our reliance on exports and dairy powder has been exposed in those drops in prices. Why do we live in a country where we have to subsidise and intervene in our housing market? Because of our rules of supply. The supply of land was limited. We are setting out to change that. The Auckland unitary plan is 7000 pages. How long will it take till houses are affordable in New Zealand? Another two or three years of hard work. Your government will have to do the same thing. We are intervening in a market. You have to take some of the Speculative pressures out of the market with capital gains tax. Every two or three decades, we build houses. They'll be affordable homes that are to supply. Land supply is not the only issue. OUR PANEL'S HERE AFTER THE BREAK. AND LATER IN THE PROGRAMME, WE LOOK BACK AT WHAT WAS MAKING POLITICAL NEWS THIS WEEK IN 1974 ` THE DEATH OF A PRIME MINISTER. PEOPLE CHANT HAKA. LET'S GO TO OUR PANEL ` POLITICAL SCIENTIST DR BRYCE EDWARDS FROM OTAGO UNIVERSITY, FORMER LABOUR CANDIDATE JOSIE PAGANI, METRO EDITOR SIMON WILSON AND PR CONSULTANT AND POLITICAL COMMENTATOR MATTHEW HOOTON. Matthew Hooton because you are named in the e-mail released by the Prime Minister's office yesterday. Did you have any knowledge of these e-mails appearing to show an link between these bloggers and Mark option? No. I've read the e-mail and it sounds likeWhaleoil rang me and suggested we put up a prediction I've checked and I predicted we didn't do exactly that at that time. We were wanting as many different topics as possible. It was a public figure and in the news. Did you think to ask Cameron Slater why would you want to put Adam Feeley the? I don't think I did. How often was Cameron Slater ringing you and asking you to put things on a predictor? I don't know how many times he rang me. We're launching hundreds of contracts. We had one this week saying will Judith Collins be sacked? There's one about John Allen the Chief Executive of the Ministry of foreign fears will he get the sack? When public figures are in the news, we asked the question about what's going to happen? When did you become aware of the allegations. On Wednesday I was contacted by a low-level beehive staffer. They told me a story about the links between Mark Hotchin and others named in the e-mail. The story I was told was worse than the one that's been published. Tell us the story. I that there was Chinese whispers going on and the story I heard was exaggerated, or these more to come. The Prime Minister told us yesterday that his office got that e-mail on Friday. You were rung and told the story on on Wednesday this person is not a senior person in the beehive. They are good gossip. They told me on Wednesday that there was an e-mail like this e-mail. It was described to me is even worse than the one that's been released. Have you been involved in anything behind the scenes that is morally questionable? Any dirty tricks at all? I've been in PR for 30 years. Nothing of this nature. The Prime Minister is talking about an enquiry he is going to launch. I think it's inappropriate. The police Minister Mike Bush - it's not for the Prime Minister to call an enquiry. The police Commissioner should look that's the crimes act and send his officers to the beehive and get to the bottom of this. This is not dirty tricks. This is criminal activity. What we have here is an apparent link between Mark Hotchin and Cameron Slater. We know Cameron Slater has a link to Judith Collins. Have we ever seen anything like this in New Zealand politics before? This is unparalleled. New Zealand doesn't normally do big scandals in politics. Politicians don't want scandals so they don't make allegations against each other. This is outside the control of politicians and government. That's why we have Matthew Hooton saying this should be a criminal investigation. The Prime Minister can't avoid this. The Sunday star times, he ruled on Sunday it's all over the front pages. Josie, a specific question. You write for the New Zealand he ruled. You got an e-mail from cactus caked on Thursday night. I don't Cathy Hodges personally. She backed out of doing the columns with me last week. On Thursday night she e-mailed saying there was something coming and it was going to be big. I've got used to blowhard talk like that from Cameron and so on. Clearly she knew. If she was contacting me, others knew too. It beggars belief the Prime Minister didn't know. I think it's possible the Prime Minister didn't know. You're talking to Cathy Hodges in Hong Kong. I'm talking to a low-level staffer. And John Key is in la-la land it's not all about bloggers. It's about the link between bloggers and Judith Collins office. John Key looks like he was someone that had been freed from a hostage crisis on Saturday. How damaging is this to national and the campaign? It is extremely damaging. You quoted Bill English saying that the law has been broken, someone has to investigate. There are serious allegations the law has been broken. But it's not been established as fact. That's the thing about dirty tricks allegations. Allegations and Nicky Hager's book and in this e-mail are extremely serious. They go to the Prime Minister. When and where the Prime Minister knew as relevant to a degree, but we want to know did the Prime Minister have a clear instruction to his staff. If there is 24 to 48 hours before they informed him, that isn't the suggestion. The suggestion was that was given to Wayne Eagleton on Friday. Of the low-level member of his staff knows something serious the person I spoke to was no friend of the Prime Minister's office. I'm not sure how useful this is. Corin, personal damage to Prime Minister John Key. He's been damaged by this, no question. This is dragging him into had to do that yesterday. For so long he said the book is all rubbish. By acknowledging that e-mail yesterday which has come from whale oil, he's giving credence to the book. Having spent two weeks denying its relevance. It's hugely damaging for him. Why didn't he acted earlier and remove Collins earlier? The e-mail we're talking about is not in the book. It did not come from the same blogger. The SI is enquiry is going on. Bryce, does Judith Collins going stop the bleeding? That's the action of the Prime Minister. This raises big questions about the integrity of governance. Policy as important as well, but this goes to the style of government. It's about integrity. We've been promised more to come. We know this well dump blogger has more. It's the problem with defence. The office formerly known as John key Matthew, we haven't seen any specific damage to John Key and national in the polls. Internal polling what are you hearing about the damage in the past couple of days? It held up very well. Stephen Joyce has a conference call with the national party's campaign managers. I have someone who tells me about those calls. He's been saying the polls are fine. I have heard whispers that in the last few days it has changed. As Josie says, there are rumours that all the Facebook and e-mail messages between Judith Collins and Cameron Slater will become public. If there is any suggestion the year that she was briefing Cameron Slater on information being given to her by Adam Feeley that was then being given to the defence and Hotchins, that would be an incredible scandal. There is no evidence of that at all. Slater is saying that he is hearing things. He said he embellished things. He's threatened to burn my house down several times, but it still standing. A GOOD PLACE TO PAUSE. WE'LL BE BACK WITH OUR PANEL AFTER THE BREAK. You are with our super panel. Simon Wilson knew the editor of metro. You've done a lot of work on Judith Collins. Is there a tea party with the National? I thought Bill English was looking almost prime ministerial this morning. He is going to some links to distance himself and look like honest Bill. He has distanced himself all along. He looks better now than he did in 2002. If John key wasn't the, Bill English would be someone they would be looking at. In terms of the tea party, we don't have a tea party in New Zealand. From Nicky Hager's book people like Cameron Slater have looked very hard at how a tea party operates in America. They have looked at the ability to use funding to replace moderate and centrist members of the Republican party with hard right members. How big is this? If we look at the Slater fiction, how big is that? There is much evidence that Judith Collins has much support in Cabinet. She has strong support in the Auckland region. I think it's bigger than you think. There's a reason why John Key hasn't got rid of who when he should have. It's the Auckland region not the top level. She is the heads of the right wing level that think John Key is too soft and centrist. You're making an incorrect distinction about the national party right. You're so factional you guys on the right. The tea party are about God, gays and guns. In the modern national party is irrelevant. The people that I am associated with that laments Bill English failed to cut benefits. You should be in the act party. The right of the national party are not God, guns and gays. Where is Stephen Joyce in all of this? It's been a convenient idea that the Labour Party is factional and the national party isn't. The differences one is doing good in the polls and one is doing badly. National party united around one idea which is John Key is the man to lead them. We've seen a well oiled national machine. Their Are factions and all political parties. What's interesting is that Factions are fluid. A number of people are jumping ship. They know that this is over for Slater. Is anyone still feeding Cameron Slater any information? I'm sure Judith Collins and him are still talking. She has been kind to him. We haven't heard the Prime Minister say I think Cameron Slater is behaving reprehensibly. He can't do that because the person feeding the information to Cameron Slater is a low-level operative - Jason Ede. It's like John Key is in a parallel universe while his office is doing the dirty work. Days 40 people who work in the Prime Minister's office. The person responsible for Jason Eads behaviour is Wayne Eagleson, the chief of staff. His job is to establish the culture of the Prime Minister's office. Nobody expects the Prime Minister to know everything in his office. K has to back him all the way. Cameron Slater talked about a temporarily Prime Minister. How much payback is the going to be? Huge from the Slater Collins faction. We are all vulnerable now. Will get it from Slater. It does have a very suppressing effect on public debate. That's why so many in the media are alarmed about this. The bigger legacy of all of this is that people are scared to have a genuine debate about staff. That is why John Key hasn't criticised Cameron Slater. There was an economic debate earlier and the reason we're not talking about it is because there is an extraordinarily important issue of people corrupting the democratic debate. It has to be dug out. It needs the Prime Minister to say that's wrong. People are allowed to be political activists. That is the political position in And they can campaign on that. If there is any link between Collins and Hotcin, that's the end of the road and it's criminal. The Prime Minister's story about how the SI is paper was released is literally unbelievable. We could talk about this all day that lets do something radical and talk about the economy. I don't think that debate has convinced any undecided voters. There's so many similarities between Labour and National. In three years time, I don't think the economy will be different depending on the outcome of this election. We're seeing the biggest difference in a generation between economic visions on the left from Labour changes to monetary policy, capital gains tax, that is a big change. The question I asked them both was they are both subsidising the housing market. Do either of them offer a solution that will radically change the economy? The national party is throwing money at housing like an old socialist government. Labour is got a macro approach to change the tax system. Stephen Joyce thinks they should be direct subsidies for favoured firms. It's hardly exciting. The reason our politics is so dirty is because there are hardly any policy differences. Wages are going up, unemployment is falling, interest rates are low so there's no policy. There is an issue around inequality. Elections are about what happens tomorrow. In the economy is not looking good tomorrow. The national party and Ruth Richardson would be appalled. The national party in the budget decided to introduce free doctors visits up to the age of 13. The national party decided to have more weeks of paid parental leave then Laila Harre. Fundamentally they are both running a surplus budget. There are clear differences around the details. When I say detail, there are clear difference around the focus of people who are the least well off. The Labour and green government has a different way. That is completely untrue. The Labour Party has talked about the quarter million children living in poverty. National party intervened with free doctors visits. The Labour Party forgot about the people in poverty I don't think that's the difference. It is the governments job to intervene in the market. I want to get into Corin now. We going to find out about tax cuts tomorrow. Is this a circuit breaker for them? I don't think so. It's a chance to change the conversation to something they want to talk about. I can't see this saga ending any time soon. Matthew, are you hearing any more costs up? I'm hearing there is more to come. E-mail on Facebook messages between Jason ahead and whale oil. The dam has broken. It gives the green light to anyone but the grievance with Collins or key to bring these things out. But if the senior staff in the Prime Minister's office knew what Jason Eade was up to. There's no evidence of that. Let's just wait and see. I don't believe the Prime Minister has office operates we Jason Eade is a rogue person. Why didn't they say can? He was following orders. We have no evidence proving that. The proof is that they haven't sacked him. If the chief executive said we won't say come. AFTER THE BREAK, AND WE LOOK BACK AT WHAT WAS MAKING POLITICAL NEWS THIS WEEK IN 1974 ` THE DEATH OF PRIME MINISTER NORM KIRK. BEFORE WE GO, LET'S LOOK BACK AT WHAT WAS MAKING THE POLITICAL NEWS THIS DAY IN 1974. AT 8 O'CLOCK ON THE EVENING OF THE 31ST OF AUGUST, PRIME MINISTER NORM KIRK DIED IN A WELLINGTON HOSPITAL, TO THE GREAT SHOCK OF THE NATION. IN THE DAYS THAT FOLLOWED, HIS BODY LAY IN STATE AT PARLIAMENT, WHERE A KAUMATUA MOURNED ` A MIGHTY TOTARA HAS FALLEN. HERE'S TVNZ REPORTER SHAUN BROWN: THE CEREMONY WAS A SIMPLE ONE, AND IT WAS DOMINATED BY A LARGE GATHERING OF MAORIS, WHO EXPRESSED THEIR GRIEF BY A SERIES OF CHANTS AND HAKA ` SOME TO LAMENT A LOSS OF A SPIRITUAL LEADER, OTHERS TO WELCOME THE BODY OF MR KIRK TO ITS PROPER RESTING PLACE. PEOPLE SING IN MAORI # HAERE MAI. ALL: # I HAERE MAI... THE COFFIN WAS CARRIED BY 10 SENIOR MEMBERS OF MR KIRK'S CABINET. ABOUT 1000 PEOPLE STOOD AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STEPS, SOME CLEARLY DISPLAYING THEIR GRIEF. ALL CHANT IN MAORI # AUE, HAERE MAI. ALL: # I HAERE MAI... AS THE BODY WAS BORNE UP THE STEPS, THE MAORI LAMENT CHANGED TO A HAKA, GUARDING THE BODY TO ITS SPIRITUAL SHORE. ALL: # KA ORA, KA ORA. TENEI TE TANGATA. PU-HURU-HURU. # NANA NEI I TIKA MAI, WHAKAWHITI TE RA! # A FLAG DRAPED OVER THE COFFIN WAS JOINED BY A KIWI FEATHERED CLOAK, SYMBOLISING THAT MR KIRK LEAD TWO PEOPLES. THE ACTING PRIME MINISTER, MR WATT, LEAD THE MEMBERS OF THE CABINET AROUND THE COFFIN FOR A FINAL SALUTE TO A MAN WHO'D LED THEM FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS AND BEEN A FRIEND FOR MANY MORE. OUTSIDE ON THE STEPS, MANY MORE WAITED THEIR TURN TO SAY GOODBYE TO THE LATE PRIME MINISTER. PARLIAMENT WILL STAY OPEN DAY AND NIGHT UNTIL WEDNESDAY'S STATE FUNERAL. MARAE IS NEXT, LOOKING AT THE UNIQUE SEAT OF TAMAKI MAKAURAU. AND Q+A REPEATS TONIGHT AT 11.35 PM. NEXT WEEK, OUR EDUCATION DEBATE WITH NATIONAL'S HEKIA PARATA AND LABOUR'S CHRIS HIPKINS. THANKS FOR WATCHING, AND THANKS FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS. THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS AND THOSE WERE THE ANSWERS; THAT'S Q+A. SEE YOU NEXT SUNDAY MORNING AT 9. CAPTIONS BY FAITH HAMBLYN AND JESSICA BOELL. CAPTIONS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WITH FUNDING FROM NZ ON AIR. COPYRIGHT ABLE 2014