NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES. CA. I # You must remember this - I NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES. CA. I # a kiss is still a kiss, I NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES. CA. I # a sigh is just a sigh. I I # The fundamental things apply I I # as time goes bY- I I # And when two lovers woo, I I # they still say, 'I love you.' I I # On that you can rely. I I # no matter what the future brings, I I # as time goes bY- I I # Moonlight and love songs - I I # never out of date. I I # Hearts full of passion, I I #jealousy and hate. I I # Woman needs man, I I # and man must have his mate. I I # That no one can deny. I <i>I #</i> It's still the same old story, I # a fight for love and glory, a case of do or die. # The world will always welcome lovers I# as time goes by. # I lclwovnbyAuueosenoconolu.l lwmue.eom I c-puonsa~anfl'l'¢°P°"""° wlu1unanofi'°"'"z°"”" loopy:-IgntAblozo1sl lRoulAN11cJAzzuluslcl He came into the room at the tennis club dance in Palmerston. And I just looked across at him. My heart started thumping. I felt sort of peculiar in the tummy. I I felt weak at the knees. I I thought he was just the most marvellous-looking being I'd ever seen And I was sort of looking at him but trying not to, cos, you know, it wasn't really right to be too brazen about it all. (CHUCKLES) But then to my amazement he came over and asked me to danced. Well, of course, I could scarcely stand up, I was in such a state of utter joy and thrill. Well, of course, I could scarcely And we danced, and we just sort of floated around. (CHUCKLES) And we danced, and we just sort of floated around. (CHUCKLES) It was just the most wonderful sensation. <i>L</i> And I was 17, and he was 19. I lFRAN11culuslcl ARCHIVE: When Britain was at war, we were at war, for we were bound by the triple ties of race, sentiment and trade. We mobilised our forces. They were small, for we hadn't wanted a war. IENGIIES RUIBLE I Paul went to Vwgram to learn to fly and, um, then went to England. I didn't want him to leave, but on the other hand, it was all so thrilling and exciting. IENGIIES RUIBLE I I DRAMATIC MUSIC I He was always writing, saying, 'Please come over, cos I need you.' External Affairs said, 'No. You can'! go. Nobody's allowed out of the country.' So I went to the Prime Minister, Peter Fraser. I just didn't know what he was going to say, and I just thought that he might be very severe with me or something and tell me I had no right to do these things, but he was really sweet and really nice and made us feel completely at ease and gave us a cup of tea and so on. Paul had been flying in the Battle for Britain, which I prefer to say instead of 'of. L'rm MUSIC I And so the Prime Minister said that he felt that these boys deserved, urn, some sort of reward for saving Britain, and he felt in this case, probably, I would be his reward. So I just had my wedding dress, which was very important, and that was quite beautiful, and of course I took a wedding cake, because you couldn't get wedding cakes in Britain. I You couldn't make a cake in Britain. I Probably my parents' contemporaries thought how stupid this was and that I should behave myself and stay at home. Urn, but the young ones thought it was all frightfully exciting, and, uh, you know, I remember them, as I was leaving on the train, the train went through the middle of Palmerston North, and they brought down streamers and balloons, and I sang, Wish me luck as you wave me goodbye.' (LAUGHS) <i>#</i> Till we meet once again, you and I, I # wish me luck as you wave me I I # goodbye. # I <i>I</i> SIREN wAn.s I I went to book in at the Strand Palace Hotel, I and I rang Paul. I He was at a station about 30 miles out, and he wasn't there. They said he was away flying. And, urn, so time went by, and a couple of hours went by, and then three hours went by, and he still- still hadn't rung me, and I thought, Well, if that's what he thinks, I'll go out and have a look at this place.' And so I was just going out, and in the sort of foyer, when in he strode, I and once again... (PANTS) I (LAUGHS) I thought he was just some marvellous, marvellous person I'd ever seen, and we just flung ourselves at each other and wrapped ourselves around each other and stayed there, I think, for- must have been five minutes. All that time hadn't melted away. (CHUCKLES) And, uh, it was just so fabulous to see him. IROMANTIO MUSIC FADESI Did you spend the night together? ROMANTIC MUSIC FADES Did you spend the night together? No. Goodness, no. Uh, no, he was in one room, and I was in another. I (LAUGHS) Um... l and I should think probably quite a lot of people would've got together, but, um... and I should think probably Why didn't you? got together, but, um... and I should think probably Why didn't you? Well, you know, my... upbringing. I- I really, even then, didn't know really anything about life, about sex. I think he was the one, really, who was quite magnificent, urn, in... holding himself in check, as it were, for that. He said, Well, we'll be married tomorrow at the Hunsdon Parish Church.' But they wouldn't let me wear my wedding outfit. In England, everybody was in uniform, and only actresses - with total derision - wore those sort of things. So I wore the suit and we had the cake. So we had lots of fun and dancing and one thing and another. So I wore the suit and we had the cake. So we had lots of fun and It was all an absolute dream. I It was all an absolute dream. I I just wafted through it, because I was with Paul, and, um, we were in heaven. (LAUGHS) I 'Live for the day,' I all the time, because you didn't know what was going to happen tomorrow. I NOSTALGIC IMJSIO I I NOSTALGIC IMJSIO CONTINIES I When I had Penny, I went to live in Sussex with a friend, with another NZ girl, whose husband was in the navy, and so we shared a little cottage there. So Paul was then stationed at a place in Norfolk called Little Snoring. And, um, so he would fly down- he would fly dawn to Tangmere, which was quite close to where we were, I and, um, come and stay. I And he'd had leave for 10 days, which was absolutely blissful, and we agreed that we couldn't possibly be happier, and life was just marvellous, and he went back on the 22nd of July, and on the 24th, I got a telegram to say that he was missing. LENelr£ Ruuauss I He always used to say, 'Don't worry about me. I'll be all right. Even if I get shot down, I'll be all right.' And he was one of those people who always seemed to get out of scrapes and problems, and it never occurred to me that he wouldn't turn up. I said to her- She was, I think, in the kitchen or something, and I said, 'There's a telegram for me,' and she immediately came out and sort of gave me a little hug, and, um, so I looked at the telegram, and, uh, it said he was missing. Urn, and so we looked at each other, and as she felt the same way about Paul, that nothing could really happen to him, um, and so I think we went in and had a cup of tea or something, you know, nothing very dramatic. And then they kept saying if I wanted to go home- did I want to go home? Well, I didn't want to go home, because I felt I was going to be walking out on Paul. If I went home, if he came back, I wasn't going to be there. And, urn, NZ House, urn... and then, in the end, they said if I didn't go, I wouldn't get a free ride home. So I came back on the last troop ship from Britain. I didn't, um- I didn't hear, really, for nine years what- what had happened, and by then I was married to Stan, and we were at Wigram, and, um, the air member for personnel I came down visiting Wigram, I and we were having a cup of tea, and I said to him, 'I'm surprised that Paul's name isn't on the Runnymede Memorial.' And he said, 'Why should it be?' And I said, 'Because he has no known grave.' And he looked at me and he said, 'But Paul was found.' And he didn't say Paul was killed or anything; he said Paul was found. And you can imagine I felt somewhat faint, because you can imagine all the things that went through my mind then. Was he found dead or alive? Had he gone mad? Had he decided he didn't want to see me any more? Was I a bigamist? Was he still living somewhere? Was he with somebody else? Or what had happened? I GUFFIRE. ENGIFES ROAR I I think really the only- the only time when I really knew that he no longer was somewhere in the world I was when I saw his grave I I seeing his name there I in this beautiful, beautiful area in the Ardennes. Ifs nioe- nice to know that he's there. I # You must remember this - I I # a kiss is still a kiss, I I # a sigh is just a sigh. I I # The fundamental things apply I I # as time goes bY- I ILIVELYBANDIMJSIOFADESI ARCHIVE: Let us be determined to still work, that the name of our country - New Zealand - shall remain high in the annals of history and respected by all nations. That means that we must not let up until Japan also is defeated. We must not let up until the maximum food and other supplies are sent to starving European nations. No let up until we've made our major contribution inside and outside our own country to the building of a better world, in which security will be available to all people in all lands of whatever colour or creed they may be. Isl-um-Ioansounosl Well, I had- we had John first to go. And we- Mother got dressed in the morning, crying half the night, of course. And we went down to the wharf where there were hundreds and hundreds and, oh, hundreds of people I saying farewell to boys. I And I don't think anybody wasn't crying, because everybody on that wharf, for some unknown reason, had suddenly realised that this was a war and that NZers were going. Before it was kinda like a fairy story. They were out in Trentham and out in camps, and they were still home, and they were still your boys, and suddenly your boys were away on a big ship. And we were waving madly, crying and standing there and couldn't do one thing, and that made you realise that people - our boys - were gonna die. I $J$OI I GHEERING. APPLAUSE I I GHEERING. APPLAUSE I ISORROWFILIMJSICCONHNIESI lsl-um-Ioansounosl And all those boys on the ship, I remember my mother saying how many of them will come back, never thinking that ours wouldn't come back, because every mother there thought her boy was coming back. And it was depressing when we came home and watched the ship go out, I and there was nothing you can say. I Ifs a kind of funny- You cry, and you go into a bedroom where someone's been, and you think of something that perhaps you and your brothers or you and your sons have said and something funny, and all of a sudden, you don't really know what to do. Now, my mother scrubbed a bench, and she scrubbed it about four times. I remember Mum with a scrubbing brush and a cake of Electric Sand Soap, scrubbing this bench And I said, 'Mother, you've scrubbed that bench. What are you doing?' She said, 'If I don't scrub it, I'll go mad.' lWHEELSRA1TLE,BELLRINGSI ll.IvEl.vMuslcl I You'll find that you'll like NZers - I lormos1ofthem-l I and that the NZers will like you - I <i>I</i> or most of you. I I uvav Music coN11NuEs I lTvREsscREEcHl It was a Saturday, and my father used to go fishing on the wharf. And in those days, everybody went fishing, of course, as you know, down on the wharf. And he met these two Americans - that was Warren and Bill. And Mum had cut him a lunch, which was most unusual for my father. He shared it, which was another unusual thing. Shared it with two Americans, which was really funny. Made Mum and I laugh after when we found out. And he invited these two boys back for tea. Now, in those days, people were very prejudiced against Americans, and we had a very nosy neighbour- and I mean nosy. And my father walks in with two Americans in uniform. You can imagine what it was like in a small street. And my mother's at the sink, and she said to me, 'I'll bet Mrs Thompson's looking through that curtain.' And Mum and I rush out to the bedroom, and we pull the bedroom curtain across, and sure enough, there's Mrs Thompson glaring out. (LAUGHS) And Mum and I roared, roared and thought it was very funny. And of course, she couldn't wait- That's another thing. A few days after, she came over to Mum, and she said, 'Is Florence going with American? 'I saw John...' - that's my father - '...bring two Americans to your place, Mabel. 'That's not very patriotic, because you know what Americans are.' That's what she said to my mother, and my mother told her off. My mother was a gentlewoman. And my mother said, 'If you spent more time at the back instead of at the curtain, 'worrying about my daughter,' she said, 'would be better.' I remember Mum saying that. But, anyway, they came and of course came for tea. Well, in those days, there was no fridges, and when Mum cooked, she just cooked enough. And here we were scrimping on things, and Mum was going to Dad, 'I wish you'd told me or let me know, John, that I could've got something else.' But they were very nice, Warren and Bill. They made the best of everything and said, 'Oh, don't worry.' That's why we liked them, probably. And sat at our funny old table, because don't forget, we had no money in those days. Poor as church mice, really, when I look back. And I kept looking at Warren and really thinking how nice he was, really. And my father said, 'I thought, "Oh Lord, if I make a date with them, they'll be trouble.” I could see Dad, you know... But, anyway, it wasn't like that. All- Out of the blue, Dad said, 'Now, every leave, you boys are to come up here.' And Mum and I nearly dropped dead through the floor. We thought, 'Good Lord, this is a change of heart.' I thought he was so nice, and he did things for me, and he treated me nice, and I like- And we went to a wedding of a friend of his, and I said, 'Isn't it a lovely wedding, Warren? Isn't it lovely? I'm so glad they're so happy.' And he just said, 'It should be us, shouldn't it?' And that's how it was. I And we got engaged, and that was it. I And then we got married, and- Oh. yes, and everybody waited for me to get pregnant, because everybody thought I was pregnant. (LAUGHS) That was another thing. They were counting. I bet everybody counted. I'm sorry to tell you I wasn't. (LAUGHS) ARCHIVE: After the war, these Wellington girls will be living in the United States. In the meantime, they get a lot of fun out of their own special club. The Eagles Club, they call it. Tonight the girls of this group have brought along photos of husbands and and now they're having a competition to pick which photo belongs to which girl. LAl.LcHUOI(I.EI Warren rushes home, you see, and I didn't know he was going, urn... You see, this is what people think. I think I was told he's never had sex. We did. And Warren mshes home, and of course, don't forget, we're young, and all we do is rush into bed. And I said to him, I remember saying, 'If I get pregnant, will you be glad or happy?' And he said happy, and never thinking any more about it. And then we went, and we went to a little place, and we had a meal, and all through the meal, I got the giggles. And he kept saying to me, 'What are you laughing at?' And I said, 'I wonder if all these people,' I said, 'that are sitting here eating all this steak and stuff knew that we just got out of bed.' And he said, Well, do I get up and tell them you're pregnant or not?' I I was pregnant. I And that made me laugh, because it was a rush job. (LAUGHS) And I thought you don't really get pregnant until you kind of, you know, have a few weeks and things, you know, not just one rush job. But one rush job did it. ISEAGULLORIESI And then I wrote to him and said I was pregnant, which he was thrilled to bits with and wrote back. ISMOOTHIMJSIOI He got transferred on to another warship. Well, not only him, not alone. I s'pose there were 20, 30 of them got transferred to the warship, and then, you see, the Jap torpedo got them. The saddest day was- for me was thinking he's never gonna see his daughter. That was the saddest day, and I thought, 'Isn't it dreadful? 'AIl- He only wanted a child and a house and a wife, and he's got all that, and he's not here.' And I couldn't cope. I couldn't believe it. I don't know how I got over that death, because everybody was so- really, urn, I nasty and sniggery I I and didn't care. I When she was in a pram once, one lady came and looked at her, Iifled the little, uh, cover up and said, 'Oh, you know, I thought she'd be black.' I said, 'Why did you think she'd be black?' She- They- She said, 'Because all Americans have got nigger blood in them.' I And I had to put up with all that. I And then I had a girlfriend, and because I had married American, I her mother wouldn't let me go, I I wouldn't let us befriends. I She said to me, 'Oh, Flo,' she said, 'I can'! let you come here any more.' And I said, 'Why?' She said, 'Because Mum says she doesn't want the boys to get on with you 'or you to get on with the boys, because you got the American's baby.' That's another thing. And I was that hurt. Anyway, I left, and I said to the mother, 'I'm very sorry.' I said, 'I have no intention of getting on with your boys,' I said, 'ever.' And all the way home, I cried, and when I got home, I told Mum, and she put her arms around me, and she said, 'Never mind.' My mother never swore. She said, 'It doesn't matter a damn. 'We love her, and we love you, and that's all in this world that matters.' I'rm MUSIC I I Tm MUSIC commas I I loved dancing with him. I knew him for a long time, but just as a brother, more or less. He would come - and I'd know that he'd been outside - and he'd come over, and he'd say, 'We'll have this one.' And... (LAUGHS) I always think of Ed as different to anyone else, absolutely different. And I'd stand up, and I'd say, 'Breathe on me.' Cos as I say, he was like my brother. And he'd look at me and clamp his mouth closed, and I'd say, 'Breathe on me.' And he- I could smell it, you see. And I said, 'No, I'm not dancing with you. You've been drinking.' And I just stuck to it, and he would go off, you know, make some funny remark and go and stand down the end with the fellas, and you'd hear a shout and a hoot, with these chaps laughing about him being turned down. Ed came to our house one night for tea, and he said, Well, I've joined- I've joined to go overseas with the infantry.' I And we all stopped dead. I He said, 'Yes, I'm going, and Jim Smith's going, and we're all going to go together.' And he was full of it. And of course, as it gradually got nearer to the time for him to go away, it was- it was really making us feel, you know, that this thing that had developed between us, I how were we going to cope? I And it gradually developed into a sexual relationship. And... sometime, I think it would be in July, I knew that I was pregnant. And I didn't tell a soul. I used to... go to my room and worry and mm 'Is there anything I can do? I must be going to have a baby.' Did you want to get married? I must be going to have a baby.' Did you want to get married? mm! When I look back, I don't think I even thought about wanting or not wanting. <i>L</i> At that particular time, you had to. I The emphasis is on 'had to'. There was no option. I Did he rethink about going away? I I Oh, no, no. He didn't. I because I asked him could he not defer it, cos I thought he would be able to until after the baby was born, and he said, 'No, I've enlisted, and I have to go when I go. I've promised so-and-so' - these names of the men who were his friends. And he said, 'We want to go together.' I wasn't a fierce sort of a person. I didn't tell him I thought he should go or shouldn't go. But I was deeply hurt that he wouldn't even make enquiries about it. But I was deeply hurt that he wouldn't even make enquiries And he... I And he... I had three final leaves, and when he was going on the last one, I said, 'Look, if you get another one, please, don't come back. Just let them tell me you've gone.' I couldn't have faced it. Neither could he. Got harder and harder each time, saying goodbye, because by this time, we were very very close, and I was his world, and he was mine, and... I he was going, and I was staying. I I TRAIN WHISTLE SOUIC38 I I What was it like after he'd gone? I I Oh, it was lonely. It was terrible. I ARCHIVE: The long voyage is over. They've come halfway round the world. These units of the NZ Army, our army, will soon be on the march again, swinging across the desert to join other NZers. The first thing he knew about having a baby, being a father, was when he got to Alexandria and the Maori camp. Someone who was great friends in our family, he came racing dawn to him, and he said, 'Hello, Daddy!' I And that was the first he ever knew. I And the letters that came from Maori camp when he was stationed there were very brief and had lets out out of them - literally cut out with scissors. So, it wasn't too long before he was in action in the desert. ARCHIVE: Now the Germans were on the run, and the Eighth Army was on their heels. So began one of the greatest chases in military history, a chase that only slowed up in Tripoli, 1500 miles away. In that fast-moving Eighth Army, the NZ division was the fastest of them all. Never again did we know what it was to retreat. LEXPLOSIONSl They let me know - again, the Minister of Defence - a letter from him, a telegram from him to say that he was missing, just that he was missing. Regret to tell you that your husband, EJ Preston, blah, blah, I is reported missing in action. I Well, of course, I thought the worst - missing. The next telegram that came said, 'Missing, presumed a prisoner of war.' I And that was a few weeks later. I And then waiting to hear where he was took ages. I Ages and ages. I And it was sometime before I got news through the Red Cross to say that he was in a transit camp somewhere in Italy. It was always somewhere. He didn't- wasn't here any more. He was like as though he was dead. He just wasn't- I couldn't even bring a vision of him in my mind by that time. So, as time went on, and no communication, to speak of, from him, I just picked up my life, and I began to do the things that I'd always loved doing, <i>I</i> apart from looking after <i>my</i> boy. I I And I started going to dances, I and with family dos and get-together and all that was going on in my immediate family, it was the beginning of a new life for me, another path. And from then on, I did part-time work. It was quite an interesting job. It was done through the town hall, and I had my own room there, and I used to type- I was secretary once, and I used to do typing and book-keeping, and sometimes I could take my little boy with me when he was growing up. When he got to 2, I could take him with me. And I never got involved with anyone of the opposite sex, except his friends. But I did get involved, in this case. You know, I knew him long before I was married, but, you know, just as meeting. This was one of the ones who was a wonderful dancer and the one that I used to hope would come and dance with me. There was nothing to hide in the relationship. <i>L</i> It was quite open. I And it never entered my head that anybody that I was- But it did develop, and after that, it was totally different. Ifs a terrible thing to be... I to be going to somebody's flat. I Some nights we used to go up there. It started by him inviting me to come up, and he'd put records on and we'd dance, and that was all there was to it for a while. But then it just developed into a sexual thing. And... while I'd never enjoyed sex, I did enjoy it with him. I It was just different. I It was just the process of how it developed, I suppose. We- We got on very well, and we could talk about lots of things. We just- I didn't do very well in those days with just anybody, and he taught me to have confidence in myself. I had none. I He really did. He was good for me. I And it just developed to that. But the way I felt... is something I don't think anybody can understand till they've done it. ISOFTPIANOMUSICCONTIMJESI We had discussed several times he wanted me never to go back to Ed and to make a life with him, There are mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and wives and children I and, of course, sweethearts. I I TRAIN WHISTLE SOUIC38 I We met at the Christchurch Railway Station. Don't remember a lot about III I just know that we were very polite to one another, and he shook hands with the little boy, cos that was the way they did it in those days, but the little boy was very reticent. I keep saying 'the little boy'. It was my son. Our son. And then the ride back through to Greymouth, he showed quite plainly that he didn't like his father sitting beside me and holding my hand. And then that night, Ed got into bed first, I turned out the light, and I got into bed, and I was so tense. I was way over on the other side of the bed. And I thought, 'Oh, I can't go through with this.' I But he didn't touch me. I I He didn't touch me. I But then- And I appreciated that, but we didn't say- I didn't say. Couldn't talk about it, even. I It just happened like that. I Nothing was said the next day. We never talked about anything. And it got to the stage where the little boy didn't like... this man going and touching his- putting his hand on my shoulder and holding my hand. I was a different person. I'd grown up a lot more than he had. I No, it was a very hard time for us. I But as far as the other relationship was concerned, it stopped like that. I just said no. I couldn't leave my child. Did you regret that? Did it end it? I just said no. I couldn't leave my child. Did you regret that? Did it end it? No. I d- I regreted it ended. I was sad. No, I often used to find myself looking up the street when I was in the town, I hoping for a glimpse of him. I Like you do. I s'pose everybody's done that. But I had enough to contend with, because we really didn't get on. I And he was very depressed at times. I He used to disappear and come back. And I was depressed. It was a really terrible time. How we got through it... I thank the Lord for it, because I'm quite sure I couldn't have done it if I hadn't had somebody- something helping me. How did you get through it, then? have done it if I hadn't had somebody- something helping me. How did you get through it, then? Well, I think we just sort of stumbled through it. And we settled down in time, but it took years... <i>I</i> before we really I I got into a time of... I I appreciating each other. I I'rm MUSIC I I He just was my mate, I I and I was his. I I'rm MUSIC FADES I and we're rolling out the red carpet. The new Samsung Galaxy S6 and Galaxy 86 Edge are here, and we're rolling out the red carpet. Or stand out from the crowd with a Galaxy 86 Edge Gold, only available at Vodafone. I Get either on a Red+ 24-month plan I and we'll give you Netflix for six months, so you can enjoy the best TV and movies that Hollywood has to offer I on the bes1 Samsung screens yet. I I LNELY BAND Music coN11NuEsl When we found out what's gonna be happening, not knowing how many people are gonna arrive, came the day that they did arrive, my husband come rushing home and says to me, 'Get down by the pub there,' he said, 'and you'll see these baboons arriving, trainloads of them.' (LAUGHS) 'They're starting to arrive at 7 o'clock.' So I said all right. So told all the neighbouring- Cos there's only- We only had a population of perhaps 530, I presume, in those days. I Ifs only a small village, I so everybody knew everybody else's business, so I told one person, she told the next one, so we ended up nearly the whole village was congregated to watch out for these people, I and the first train came in. I They poured out. Little wee short things with all their packs on. And the thing that really struck me that morning was our military band. It was there. LuvELYaANnMuslcl And each group that come marching down the station- Well, they couldn't march. They weren't even marches, anyway. But they come slogging along down the platform. Soon as I see a dark one that look like a Negro or Mexican or whatever, clap, clap. I get my girls to clap. I (LAUGHS) I At half past 5 that night, teeming with rain, bang, bang on the door. Opened door and there's two shivering guys standing there, saying, 'Ma'am, can we hire a roorn?' I said, 'Oh, no.' And they were drenching wet. I said, 'No, we don't hire no rooms. 'You take your coat off and hang it on the line there,' I said. 'You can come in here by the fire, get warm.' And they were donned with cans of beer and all sorts of drink and meat and steak and goodness knows what have you. 'Oh, help yourselves.' Showed them the kitchen. 'You're all right.' I told them what they can do, and next minute there was about 30, and I didn't see there was a gang of them behind the hedge. I ended up with 32 of them. Yeah, and they were all cold and shivering. 'What do you call you people?' I said, 'Oh, we're Maori. We're the natives of NZ.' 'Do you have slimy Limeys here?' they said. I said, 'What's that?' They said, 'Oh, poms.' 'Oh,' I said, 'we never heard of that.' You know, 'slimy Limeys' they called Pakehas. I said, 'Oh, I never knew about that.' And they- Cos they bought all our shops out of food, cos their rations hadn't arrived yet. And so the pub was dry by 9 o'clock that night. I Drank like fish. I Oh, our house was full of people by the time my husband came home, but he arrived with officers. I only had these little PFCs, what they call private first class, couple of sergeants and that. But he arrived with blimmin' oolonel and a major and some other baboon like that who came in and looked the guys up and down and said, 'What are you-? 'I'le's in not right,' and all this and ordering them back to their camp, whatever outfit they belong to. I said, 'No, you don't. This is my house. They were here first, 'and if anybody's gonna go, it'll be you. 'Don't think cos you've got the pips up, you're gonna tell people what to do in my house.' Yeah. And then we had lots of people come in to work in the milk bars that they built overnight and had to have accommodation, so I accommodated the Maori parts of it. Well, they got engaged to endless marines, these girls. Getting engaged every other day to different marines. I What did getting engaged mean? I Getting engaged, you know. The guys were getting engaged to them. Buying diamond rings and what have you. (CHUCKLES) I Oh, they used to come in carloads. I I'll tell you what, from Wellington, the third night the guys were in here, in Paekakariki, uh, the third- there were women, must be getting 60 or 70, coming out there looking like young lambs, and they're old hoggets. Tell you what. All done up, painted and whatnot. But the women were interested in the Americans? Some were. Some were bit scared of them. Why? Some were. Some were bit scared of them. Why? Because they were told they were criminals, they were the scruffy lot of America that were coming. So they had a reputation? they were the scruffy lot of America that were coming. So they had a reputation? They didn't. They didn't, really. It's just what our people thought. I used to do a stroll along the waterfront parade, Paekakariki's, you know, just the Parade. Lot of them used to sleep there to come down to the guys and used to sleep on the beach with them. I used to go along with a blimmin' stick, if I saw any Maoris, to give 'em a whack, tell 'em to get back to where they come from, whoever they were or whatever they were. Yeah. They were really fussy about their clothes, their undies and whatnot, so they had to be totally boiled and ironed, you know, starched and so on. Apart from me washing machine, I had three ooppers outside on the lawn. Anyhow, these guys came and they turned the hose on into each of the ooppers I that I had fired up to boil, I and of course all the ashes and everything ended up in amongst all the boiling clothes and what have you. So I fly out there, I and they stand there laughing. I And that's what they were saying to me - 'Black, black, black,' and all this sorta tommyrot. I said, 'You're not in America. Anyhow, the blacks as good as you. "They might be black on the outside, but they're white at heart.' (LAUGHS) The Maori put up a pretty good battle, eh? I says to 'em, 'Don't talk like that. You're in Kiwi land now. 'We don't have that sorta language here, so look out.' lswmeuuslcl The three camps had these massive balls, and we had different shows coming in. Everybody went. It was a different show every night. But they had their own entertainment too. They used to have all the latest movies in St Peter's, our hall down there, for the local kids on Saturday afternoon, starting at 1 and going right through to 8 and then from 8 o'clock onwards for adults. Outside the hall and playing nursery And- and they'd have a band playing I rhymes for the kids in the afternoon and jazzy stuff for us adults at night. Hey, sir, how about some ice cream? and jazzy stuff for us adults at night. Hey, sir, how about some ice cream? Here you go. us adults at night. ARCHIVE: But that isn't all. Music from this, uh, orchestra sets them clapping. ALL CLAP IN RHYTHM Music from this, uh, orchestra sets them clapping. ALLOLAPINRHYTHM AI.I.:I...deeph Ihohel1ol'Tcxns. I ALL sme IMJISTINCTLYI ALL CLAP IN RHYTHII ALL SING ll~I3IS11NC11.Y ALLOLAPINRHYTHH #...doephtl'lel'leu'tol'1baao.# I ALL sme IMJISTINCTLYI IALLOLAPINRHYTHMI ARCHIVE: It's been their day of days. I had- Oh, I had a splendid time, and, boy, did I enjoy that ice cream. They were only, uh, babies. Well, we call them babies - 17, 18 and 19-year-olds. Well, they were like ours, part of us. Ours were over in the Middle East, our cousins and what have you, all young people. And we just imagined, well, here's these kids here, parents in America. Um, their kids are not gonna go home to them. IWI-ll8TLETRl&8. I ARCHIVE: We also have the opportunity to retrain the division for combat. These terrains that we have used here in NZ cannot help but fit us for the next combat that we will engage in. 103 of them got drowned unloading the- off their carriers between Kapiti and Mana, and the dirty southerly came up, and they collided and tipped over and everything else. We were picking bodies up there for days, three days after the thing. I Yeah. I And those were guys that didn't even get to the war, and they were still killed while on active service, but they weren't even at the war. Just one terrific blimmin' tragedy, that. I When we knew whafd happened, I we asked them to bring canvas and grey blankets so we watched the tides for the bodies to come up. We didn't know how many bodies, And you weren't allowed light, so everything was totally blacked out in those days, um, so you had to watch the morning tide and whatever, and sometimes you were lucky enough to find two, three bodies well so we wrapped them up and put them up on the bank. Cops would come pick them up. Some came ashore without their dog tags. Uh, some fortunately did have theirs on. And then they take them to Wellington. We don't know where to. But three days we were I picking up bodies. I We come hereto pay tribute I I to those comrades of all wars I I who died that liberty might live. I ARCHIVE: Later at Karori Cemetery, the wreaths from the oenotaph were placed on the graves of Americans, men who died from illness and from wounds after service in the Pacific. I news: MUSIC I I QUIET oRuluRol.l. I And because he's pre-paid, Mum's in control of her dollars. I WHISPERS: Watch this. I WHISPERS: Watch this. I Huh? I IIEI Huh. This is Glowie. Together with our Community Services Card, Glowie could help us save on power. And because he's pre-paid, Mum's in control of her dollars. I She can even top up from here. I He even changes colour when it's top-up time. I But now ifs play time! I I Get smarter about power. I I was working in Auckland on the corner of Victoria Street and Queen Street. My husband, Alan, at that stage was up at the Savings Bank just up the road. I can remember quite well that he came to me one day and said that- we had planned to be married in March, having had a two and a half year engagement, I but that he'd been given a rise, I I I think to £5 a week, I and would I like to get married in January? Isowe did. I I GHEERING. APPLAUSE I So Alan said to me that, in the event of war, he would be a pacifist and refuse to go to war. It was against his religious beliefs. I I said, 'Well, that's all right.' I I wasn't really interested in the fad that he wasn't going to go to war. I don't think I took too much notice of it. I'm pretty sure I didn't. I IENAOING filslc I ARCHIVE: From the north, across these peaceful waters, comes a shadow - Japan. I Now our own soil is threatened. I We see for the first time the prospect of unfriendly feet attempting to despoil our land. He got a call up to present himself for military service, I and he refused to go. I And he said his wife was in the nursing home with a young baby and was granted a one-month extension. So, in those days it was customary to stay in the nursing home for two weeks. You stayed in bed for 10 days, and you got up for the last four. And it was a lovely holiday. So at the end of that one-month extension, my little baby would then be six weeks old. Alan was required to go to the police station. So I left Alan. They had taken his tie. They'd taken his shoe laces. And Alan had been a professional businessman, always in a collar and tie at the bank. And so I saw Alan with an open-necked shirt, and they took his wedding ring, and I felt pretty sad. But I was with another girl who was seeing her husband also being left behind, and the two of us walked from Princes St Police Station to Balmoral Rd and Dominion Rd, because we'd both been crying so much, we didn't feel we could get on a tram and go home. I would think what influenced me more than anything was <i>my</i> concern about the way people would look at me and how neighbours would look at me. I'm quite sure I evaded questions when people said, you know, 'Where's your husband?' I I think I would've evaded it. I This was a difficult time, both for his mother, for my mother. Remarks to people in the street, 'What's your son doing?' 'He's in the Pacific' was a satisfactory answer for her. She could not bring herself to say he was a defaulter. She couldn't bring herself to say he's a conscientious objector. I don't think anyone had any idea of the pressures that were put on people to be behind the war effort. LuvELYaANnMuslcl ARCHIVE: These planes flew over Christchurch, and the people of Christchurch heard the noise, saw the point and bought nearly £300,000 worth of bonds to build the airport. Among the cities, Palmerston North led in sales per head. Next best was Wellington, and Auckland sails past the half-million mark as the best total in NZ. I Pretty girls were good saleswomen, I but the best selling point was the knowledge that our fighting services could use what we could give them. Now was our chance to show that we could give it, and NZ produced the 10-day wonder, a campaign that brought in almost twice as many pounds as there are people in the country. I But they deserve it and more. I We'll give them what it takes, whatever it takes. IENGIIES RUIBLE I I There was one man I I at that time working in the bank, I name of - I'm happy to give - it was Campbell Paterson. He went to the manager and said, 'It has been our custom when a boy has gone overseas from the bank to give him a gold watch.' And he said, 'We'd like to do that for Alan.' And the manager was furious. 'An insult to the boys who'd gone overseas.' Thought that was dreadful to even suggest it. So I know Campbell went back and talked about it, and amongst the group that he talked to was a man who'd come back from the war having lost his eye, and that man went up and spoke to the bank manager also and said, 'I will support Campbell in saying, "Let's give him a gold watch.” I And he still would not have it. I So Campbell then went amongst the staff who were there and discussed with them what they could do, and I know the largest amount given by any one person was a shilling. There were threepenoes and sixpenoes. They took up a collection, and all the years that Alan was in detention, those three years, they paid me 10 shillings a week into my bank account, far more than any gold watch and of so much greater value for me. When my little girl, Heather, was a week off being 12 months old, I was making arrangements to go and see Alan I and take Heather with me. I I could only go and visit when I could get a ride. I didn't have any money. And there was an opponunity coming up that I could go to Strathmore and take Heather down. Now, Alan had seen her when she was one month old, and then he went, and he never saw her again. Because I'm going- I was making these arrangements, but on one occasion, I'm going out to lunch, I and ifs a bad day. I And Mother and I were going with the two children, and she said, 'Look, it's a nasty day. 'Why don't you take the boy and go to your friend's for lunch, and I'll mind Heather at home?' So I said, well, that made sense, so I did. And I remember coming home on the tram from Orakei I and came out. I I I found a commotion at home. I I Heather had died in the pram. I She'd been asphyxiated by a little strap that was in the big, old-fashioned pram, I and Mother hadn't seen her. I She thought she was all right, till she saw some bubbles, and Mother- Heather had died. Mother had a heart attack there straight away. A terrible situation. Well, somebody got in touch with the chaplain of the church, and I have to say I'm very grateful to him. I He got Alan home for three days. I I That was compassionate leave. I We had Heather at home so that he could see her, cos he hadn't seen her since she was a month old. I He came home for three days I I and what mixed feelings I had. I There he was, home. It's a time when I wanted to be happy, and miserable because we had Heather home. The funeral had to be held at mm! He was not allowed to mix with any crowd, and he had to report to the police station every day, I and it was very brief. But... I I um,--- I I I know it was expressed to me... I I s'pose I'm certain it never came from the person who said it, but was expressed to me... I that perhaps that was a punishment. I You've got to understand there were people there whose sons had been killed. I mean, in the community. Sons who'd been maimed, perhaps not killed. Maimed... I have to- I have to look at it that way now. They- The community were suffering... terrible pain. Terrible pain. Mine was a different pain. Mine was a different suffering. As soon as Alan got back- I'm waiting for his letter, and the mail comes, and I open the letter. Because I needed then some support. There's a little bit of scrappy paper, tom out of a book, I 'Sony, I've lost my privileges. I 'Love, Alan. Can't write for a month.' I didn't know what had happened. He'd lost his privileges. And I think I have to say this, because I put it on the tape, and it is important. I hated him. I really did. How could he do that to me? I The one thing I wanted was a letter, I and he'd lost his privileges, his privileges and his... I his principles. I And Alan was taken from Strathmore to Hautu, put in what they regarded as the bad boys' camp. We had a white feather, more than one occasion, posted in an envelope, and I s'pose I took a while to cope with that. It's funny. Ifs just a silly little white feather in an envelope. Ifs nothing. But what it signified, uh, being a ooward... it was difficult sometimes to accept. I remember on one occasion being in the city I and waiting on a tram zone, I I and a woman said something to me I about the war. Don't recall what she said. But I remember coming out and saying, 'My husband's a conscientious objector, and he's in detention.' I remember saying that very positively, and I believe the whole change in my life took place once I came out and said- made that statement. I know I had abuse after I made that statement. Not on that occasion. But then I got courage and thought, 'I'm going to say Alan's in detention.' And sometimes I got abused. People were very mde. I Um... I but it felt- I know, looking back, it was a very positive mood, and, uh, I I know it gave me a great strength. I lRa=LEc11vEMuslcl I I was engaged when I was 18, I and my fiance went into the air force... too young. Had to get his parents' permission. Trained at Levin and went to England and then to North Africa. And he was almost immediately killed, bombing over Benghazi. And that was in 1942, and of course I was devastated. I was working out of Gisborne then and went home, and I will never forget the phone ringing, cos he was missing, believed killed. Four days later, the phone rang, and my mother answered the phone, and she said, 'Oh, just a minute.' And she called my father. I thought that's funny. Oh, I don't like the sound of that. So Dad took this message from Geoff father to say that Geoff had been I And I stood and I screamed. I I Gonna cry. (CHUCKLES) I I screamed and screamed and screamed. And next day, I went to work at the drill hall. You went to work the next day? And next day, I went to work at the drill hall. You went to work the next day? Mm. Cos they asked me to go and help on the medical boards. So that was probably good. But I had to cope with that. I mean, you just had to. No alternative. But that- I live with that now. I still wear Geoff like a second skin. I sums CHIRP I So with dark glasses and swollen eyes, I went down there, and I was typing away on these medical boards for three days, and then one of the men put a piece of paper in front of me and said, 'You've got to sign this. You're in the army now.' I said, 'Am I really? I dOI"I"I kn that I want to be in the army.' °&I So I was in the army there for two years before I went overseas. And I'll tell you this, that a lot of those men that went away from Gisborne, you know they were all sworn in on a Bible? A lot of them were sworn in on <i>my</i> Collins dictionary, because the area officer could not find his Bible sometimes, and he used to rush through the door and say, 'Get me a dictionary.' And he'd put his thumb along the little binding thing, you know, so it covered the word 'dictionary'. And he said, 'I don'! think it'll make any difference.' But then, when they decided to send clerical girls, I said, 'Oh boy, yeah, that'd be great.' I Full of adventure. I But you see, sending clerical girls was a very important decision at anny headquarters. Because they had the voluntary aids, the VAs, in the hospital, um, and the nursing sisters, and they had the girls in the welfare division at the clubs, and they knew that if they sent clerical division girls, there'd be a lot of animosity amongst the men, because we would be the only ones who were taking jobs from the men. In N2, the equivalent of the ATS is the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps. In the quartermas1er's stores, women can do it and do it better. Others look after cars and act as drivers or dispatch runners. I Some are doing domestic work. I We want to release men from these duties and leave them free to fight. 'There was animosity for about a week,' till the guys thought, 'Oh, it's not bad having these girls around.' But you see, we were taking their jobs, because we were at administrative headquarters, and they just thought we were all over there for a jolly good time. And we worked extremely hard. They were dedicated to their work, and they did have a good time too. Plenty of parties. IOHAfiER. I We were close to the fighting line at our headquarters. We were at one stage only 8 miles behind the front line. And fellows would come down and maybe have dinner with us, or there'd be a party, and next day go back and, oh, killed. So that happened with a particular person that I knew. He came with another fellow and had a meal with us, and next day had his head blown off. I He was in a tank and it was bombed, I One fellow jumped that way, Brian jumped this way, another fellow, not a scratch on him, I and Brian's head was knocked off. I So you see, your sense of having a good time was certainly levelled out. And you lived with that every day, of course. You couldn't escape being emotionally and mentally affected by the war, but what about physically? Some of us had been to a dance at an air foroe- British air force camp one night, and whenever we did that, we then asked some of those people back to our mess for a meal. Incidentally, in the back of a We used to go to these dances, I 5-ton truck, sitting on chairs, with air force jackets around us if it was cold. Anyway, deputed t <i>0</i> look after me at this particular dance was a little fellow called Mac, whose name I can't remember now. And so I- he came to the mess with some of the others for a meal, And the village was very tiny. We walked past the houses, and there was a lot of flat rocks. We walked over the rocks, just right by the water's edge, and we sat and we talked. And after a little while, Mac said, 'I think we better go. There are three funny-looking men.' And I looked round, and back on the road, which was, say, 100yd away, one soldier, one soldier, one soldier. We thought, well, apart from swimming home, we had to get back on that road. So back on the road we went, and these three closed in, I and one of them had a knife, I I and he put it to Mac's chest, I and in very broken English- They were three Palestinian Arabs- put this knife to Mac's chest and put it to him, they would all have sex with me, and then Mac could have sex with me, they said. So at that, Mac, who was quite a short fellow, punched this fellow in the face, and I thought, 'Oh, he will be dead,' because at the same moment, one of the others picked me up and threw me over that shoulder and took off into a ploughed field with me, running, mooing, running. I And I yelled, 'Help, English, help.' I running put his hand over my mouth And then the second one that wag and we ran on quite a long way, and I was thrown on the ground. I thought Mac was dead on the road. And they stripped my clothes off me, and the one with the knife knelt at my head. He had the knife there on my forehead. And one was holding my legs, and the other one had taken off his trousers, and here he was with this great big penis, and here was I, wearing nothing but a sanitary towel, fortunately. The big, bulky sanitary towel that we all had. And I kicked. I wasn't frightened. This is amazing to me now, in retrospect I don't know how I got through that, physically or mentally, because I was so angry, and I fought- I-I thought I was fighting for my life, and I think I was. I fought, I kicked, I wriggled, I squirrned, and it felt like hours, but in fad, it was 20 minutes later, which is a long time to be in that situation. But 20 minutes later, I saw a row of torohlights come over a stone wall, I and I called out, 'Here.' I And at that, the three Palestinian Arabs got up and ran away, then one came back, and I thought he might've dropped his knife, and I held on to his I couldn't hold on long. My hands are pretty small. Came over, and then they went He got away, and the soldiers 1 with torches after those people and Mac arrived by my side, and he said, 'I'll go with them.' And I said, 'No, please don't!' And I was standing up, and I didn't care if it was the entire Royal Air Force. There was I, wearing a sanitary towel. And I groped around on the ground and found my clothes, and I got dressed. LuvELYaANnMuslcl ARCHIVE: North of Cassino and almost opposite the Anzio Beachhead, Nzers break through the German lines and get Jerry on the run. As the annoured cars and clouds of dust reminiscent of the western desert press along Route 5, village after village falls into our hands. I was very angry a lot of the time at the total futility of what I was in amongst. I Total futility. I You'd meet someone, air force guy, perhaps, go back to his unit and think, 'Oh, another sortie going over. Ooh, I hope he comes back.' And, uh, they sometimes did come back and sometimes didn't. But that emotional thing was a huge part of our existence of the time. Did people fall in love very easily? part of our existence of the time. People fall in love very easily? Mm. In and out. (CHUCKLES) Uh. yes. And I had a lot of experiences in that way, and it presented problems, because some of the men, they fell in love with you immediately, for the reason that you were there. I That was really what it was about. I If you were pleasant and listened to them, then that was extra special. They really fell for you, and they believed themselves to be in love with you. And some of them took it for granted, because that's how they felt, that necessarily you felt that way about them, and you didn't. And it was- That was another little emotional problem to deal with, because you wouldn't, for all the world, make them unhappy, and you had to just explain, 'Well, look, we are in very abnormal times, and we shouldn't even be thinking about these things. 'Let's wait till we go home so we know where we're at.' And, uh, some of them look that nicely, and were furious. Life was too confusing with too many guys, and I rather reluctantly became engaged because of this confusion. I wasn't entirely sure that I liked him more than I liked the others, and I didn't love him the way I loved Geoff, because I never have, but he was a Cameron Highlander, and I met him in Rome, when we were on leave, I so we had some lovely times, I and I did get engaged to him just before the war- three weeks before the end of the war, just before he went off to Belgium, and he was killed on my birthday. So I had to sit in the Garrison Theatre at the end of the war, through the thanksgiving service, representing NZ women, up on the stage with the padre, with the brigadier, and looking at this big theatre full of soldiers, thanking God the war was over, and I tell you, I didn't hear one word. I had to steel myself not to listen, or I'd have cried and made an idiot of myself. And I had to just gaze out into the audience. I had to look how the men in the from were sitting, were their feet crossed, and count the heads and do anything to fill in time till it was over. LMA'l'Ol-I I-IISSESI I $J$OI Well, immediately, I got back in Gisborne, people had this extraordinary idea. We just had a wonderful time. And I remember one of my parents' neighbours saying to me, 'Oh, well, now, you've had all that wonderful experience. I suppose now you'll settle down and get married.' I And I just wanted to kill her. I Sh- They had no idea. They really thought that's what we would want to do. They had no idea what that experience had done to us. ISORROWFILIMJSICCONHNIESI Even before they got to war, I had my fears that they might get bombed from the air or torpedoed in the sea. <i>L</i> and they may not re- I I reach their destination. I And the other fears I had, well, he might come back with one arm, minus one am, one eye or leg I or even both, I and then, urn, be a lifetime of looking after him. He said, 'I know about the First World War.' I A lot of his relations came back, I and the wives have already- living with others. He said to me, 'If that does happen, I vvill not have any grudge against. 'Because I left you in the first place. But if I do return, I want my son back.' I TRAIN WHISTLE SOUIC38 I I We saw him off at Palmerston. I It was heartbreaking to see our son, because he fretted for weeks and weeks. He wouldn't eat, so that put the worry on me. But of course, when he left, <i>my</i> brother and I had to run our business, <i>I</i> which was a school-bus run, I I passenger and general goods. I While I'm doing that, sometimes I get wild that I, the woman, doing a man's job. Luva.YMuslcl ARCHIVE: As drivers taking the place of men now driving tmcks and tanks on Pacific jungle trails or Italian mountain roads on Pacific jungle trails or Italian mountain roads are women who can handle heavy trucks with all the skill of experienced men. Unloading the trucks goes with the job of driving them. Neither is easy work, nor light. Hauling mail to boats and trains and lumping off the heavy bags is work that is just as important as maintaining front-line supplies. Uh, one day I was unloading a petrol drum, because people used to order petrol in 44-gallon drums. So I wheeled it around, and then I just got it on, I and then I felt a crack in my chest, I and, oh, it was painful, so I went home, and then I rushed up to the hospital. So what they did, they plastered me, and they put a very wide plaster on it. It was good. Cos I said to them, 'I've got to be on that truck again in the morning.' So they put the plaster on. But as I was coming down the steps, then I realised my son was still on the breast, cos he will not finish taking the breast. So, anyway, I went back, and I said, 'Oh, there's something wrong,' and they said, 'What?' And I said, 'My son is still on the breast.' So what we did cut some holes for the nipples I through the plaster. (CHUCKLES) I And of course he was I quite happy with that. So, urn, anyway, we came back, and the next day, I was on the cream run again. Luva.YMuslcl I ARCHIVE: They work like men, I but they're women still when it comes to knocking back a cup of chatter water. The drink perks them up. The hand that rocks the engine wields the lipstick, and they're ready for the road once more. We had the- We looked after the money for the Maori patriotic fund, and we were responsible for sending the parcels over for the soldiers. So this chap gave us a comer in the bargain store in Whangarei, so we sat there, and we paroelled 24 for our soldiers. I But as time went on, I I remember the last lot we sent was only nine. A lot of them had been killed. The thing that saddened me most, when word is received that a soldier had died, now, we all go to that particular marae, if they've got a marae, or to their home and help the ones that lost a soldier. I But the other thing is, um, I I they're crying over just a photo, I and they know the body will never be returned. I WOMAN CALLS: oAotearoa e! I <i>I</i> Haere rnai rat, I I haere mai, I I haere mai. I I When they come back, I I they always give thanks I I for those that came back, I that they said, well, the gods did listen to their prayers. L#l-lnel'ollldtornl.1I.IIol.I Itlmtol-lol::Iwl1Il.Ia'l'u.Al.Io! I I#AIos.alaonaualuo.#I IfiOXEl~lGI-l.A.I~I'I'I IALLSINGINTEREOI I#Haennlll.l I#I'nennlll-I IALLSINGINTEREOI I#Haennlll.l I#I'nennlll-I I My mother, she made us laugh. 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