MORENA, GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO Q+A. I'M GREG BOYED. TODAY ` THE U.S. HAS CONFIRMED ITS FIRST NAVAL SHIP VISIT IN 30 YEARS. IS THIS A VICTORY FOR NZ'S ANTI-NUCLEAR STANCE? AND WHY NOW? POLITICAL EDITOR CORIN DANN WILL BE ASKING THE ARCHITECT OF THE ANTI-NUCLEAR LEGISLATION, FORMER PRIME MINISTER SIR GEOFFREY PALMER. THEN AFTER ANOTHER WEEK OF WARNINGS ABOUT THE RISKS OF AN OVERCOOKED HOUSING MARKET FOR OUR ECONOMY. TWO INTERVIEWS ` FIRST LABOUR'S GRANT ROBERTSON. WE ASK FOR HIS PLAN TO MAKE HOUSING CHEAPER AND WAGES GROW. THEN ACT'S DAVID SEYMOUR. WHAT'S HIS SOLUTION? THEN NO ONE WANTS VIOLENT OR SEX OFFENDERS LIVING ON THEIR STREET, BUT WHEN THEIR TIME IN PRISON IS UP, THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE. WHENA OWEN MEETS A SOUTH AUCKLAND COMMUNITY THAT CLAIMS THE CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT IS TREATING THEM AS A DUMPING GROUND FOR FORMER PRISONERS. THE CORRECTIONS OFFICER TOLD YOU WHAT? THAT SHE WANTED ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM TO BE HER EARS AND HER EYES? THIS IS A WORKING-CLASS COMMUNITY. THAT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY. AND THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION HAS WRAPPED IN OHIO. JACK TAME TALKS TO TWO FORMER PRESIDENTIAL ADVISORS ON TRUMP AND ASKS CAN HE MAKE IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE A VERY POLARIZED COUNTRY. IF YOU'RE RUNNING 12 POINTS BEHIND MITT ROMNEY AMONGST REPUBLICANS, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE IT UP SOMEWHERE, AND THAT'S VERY HARD. DUE TO THE LIVE NATURE OF Q+A, WE APOLOGISE FOR THE LACK OF CAPTIONS FOR SOME ITEMS. AND WE'LL BE TALKING HOUSING AND THE BROADER ISSUES FOR THE ECONOMY HERE WITH FRAN O'SULLIVAN, NZME EDITORIAL DIRECTOR FOR BUSINESS AND BERNARD HICKEY, HIVE NEWS PUBLISHER. FIRST AN UPDATE ON THE MASS SHOOTING IN THE GERMAN CITY OF MUNICH. GERMAN POLICE SAY THE GUNMAN WHO KILLED NINE PEOPLE ON FRIDAY WAS OBSESSED WITH SHOOTINGS. HE'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS DAVID ALI SONBOLY (18), A GERMAN-IRANIAN STUDENT WHO HAD BATTLED DEPRESSION. A SEARCH OF HIS HOUSE FOUND LITERATURE ABOUT MASS KILLINGS. OFFICIALS SAY THERE'S NO EVIDENCE TO LINK HIM WITH EXTREMIST GROUPS. HERE'S THE BBC'S GAVIN HEWITT. IT WAS THE THIRD ATTACK ON CIVILIANS IN EUROPE IN EIGHT DAYS. A GUNMAN KILLED NINE PEOPLE AT RANDOM IN A MUNICH SHOPPING CENTRE. IT HAS LEFT THE COUNTRY WONDERING WHERE WAS SAFE, SAID ANGELA MERKEL. TRANSLATOR: WE ARE IN DEEP AND PROFOUND MOURNING FOR THOSE WHO'LL NEVER RETURN TO THEIR FAMILIES ` THE FAMILIES, SIBLINGS, FRIENDS TO WHOM EVERYTHING WILL BE VOID AND EMPTY TODAY. THE GUNMAN WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA OPENING FIRE. GUNSHOTS HE'S BEEN NAMED AS DAVID ALI SONBOLY, A GERMAN OF IRANIAN DESCENT. THE STUDENT (18) HAD BATTLED DEPRESSION. POLICE FOUND EVIDENCE HE HAD RESEARCHED OTHER FRENZIED ATTACKS, INCLUDING THE KILLINGS IN NORWAY FIVE YEARS AGO BY THE RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST ANDERS BREIVIK. BUT THE POLICE SAID THERE WERE NO INDICATIONS SO FAR THE KILLINGS WERE MOTIVATED BY POLITICS. POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING WHETHER THE GUNMAN TRIED TO LURE YOUNG PEOPLE TO MCDONALD'S BY OFFERING FREE FOOD ON A FACEBOOK PAGE. SEVEN OF THE VICTIMS WERE TEENAGERS. THE GOVERNMENT SAID THE HORROR HAD BEEN MADE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN SUCH TERRIBLE NEWS FROM ELSEWHERE IN EUROPE IN RECENT DAYS. HERE'S CORIN WITH SIR GEOFFREY PALMER, WHO'S IN THE WELLINGTON STUDIO. Sir Geoffrey, thank you for joining us today. Are you cracking open the champagne this week in light of the decision by the UBS. Did you see this is a big thing for NZ? As long as those ships complied with NZ's antinuclear policy, that was the purpose of the legislation. We discussed it with the Americans back then. I went to Washington to have those discussions. The American strategic situation was quite different in relation to nuclear weapons. I remember the secretary of state Mr Schultz saying to me the solution they had in Japan it would not work in NZ. He knew them from the Second World War and they would want to be assured that what they said was right. Do you see the final piece of the puzzle has been completed in terms of the relationship? The independent foreign policy might be more under threat, and we might have to do more with the United States? I do not think so. I think it is a good thing we have military exercises with the United States. Foreign warships cannot come into anyone sport without permission. We have a lot of foreign warships coming to NZ. We have British warships and so why can't we let the Americans and? We know the US was herebecause they want to reassert themselves as a Pacific Power. How will China view that when they are very sensitive to us lining up with the US? What the anti-nuclear policy did 30 years ago was put us on a path for independent foreign policy. It has really forced us to choose between ANZUS and our antinuclear policy. We chose the antinuclear policy. I do believe that we need to maintain that. It is a very uncertain world and we need as many friends as we can get. We are small and relatively insignificant. We should be very careful. Is going to get harder? We have seen with the steel anti-dumping story that China is very uppity about these issues. It is going to be a much much harder place to be isn't it? I do not think it is correct. I think our relationship with China has been very good for a long time. The agreement with China is a very important part of our trading policy. Managing our relationships with China and with the United States doesn't mean that we are on a collision course with either of them. So weird as the TPP fit into that? Shouldn't we be doing a deal as well? I think the relationship to the TPP is murky right now. Many in the US elections are speaking out against it. When we look at where NZ will be in the next 20 years, do we need a counterbalance to the China trade deal and the TPP? I think the TPP has been very controversial internally because of the way it has been done. With excessive secrecy. There is never a good idea and that sort of behaviour leads to issues like Brexit. There is a problem in Western democracies now about the accountability of decision-makers and they need to ensure that the domestic population is brought along and are supportive of it. There is a crisis in Western democracies about accountability and Brexit demonstrates they clearly. The is a malaise in Western democracies at the moment which is very worrying. Is Donald Trumpwrite about the trade deals? I don't think he is right about anything. But he is tapping into that malaise and he could win. He could win. I think what happens in the United States will be very important for the geopolitical future of the world. It behoves us to be humble. You do not sounded optimistic about how we navigate our way to the next period. It sounds very uncertain. Should we maintain that on the fence position? I do say that. It is very important if you are a small country to have some principles and maintain them. If you go back to the antinuclear policy in 1987 that David Lange promoted it was based on internal and democratic imperative of the NZ electorate. I remember when he was Foreign Minister and he received letters from thousands of Americans who were saying to keep the policy. I might add that the new killer disarmament question is a very important question facing the future of this planet. And that has been going backwards in the last few years because of the very great difficulties with North Korea and then the Ukraine. The new killer nations are spending enormous amount of money modernising their nuclear weapons. The purpose of many of those treaties that were ratified by NZ as a result of the legislation in 1987 was to get nuclear disarmament on the agenda and it needs to be on the agenda now. Do you think Helen Clark will get over the line for the UN top job? There has been a lot of lobbying. This is not the end of it. She could easily recover from this. Helen Clark is a very strong and principled woman and there is probably one of the reasons why some of the nations will campaign against her. We have a strong team in New York and I think they might be able to change that. Listening to that is Grant Robertson. Labour's finance spokesman. How would a Labour government navigate its way through a Donald Trump presidency? What would be your priorities? The lesson coming out of Brexit is the a lot of people who do not feel they have benefited from globalisation. You can't tell people be alive is a good when they are not feeling it. The year of trickle-down economics is over. The IMF is saying that is not the path forward. We need to create some security in our economy and add value to our products in support regional economies. We need to rethink the way we build wealth in NZ is that a return to spending more and taxing more in order to do that? Be will be some more spending. We need to spend more on infrastructure. You see that in every large city in NZ. We need to see more on education. It will mean investing more than . We want people to pay as the amount in the tax system. We can't just think that the market is going to solve everything and that year is now over. We need to develop the economy and develop the wealth from our regions and small businesses. The lesson out of Brexit and Trump is that if politicians stop listening it assumed they have all the answers, they will get wrong. With housing, I don't think I have heard anyone agree that we need to crash the housing market, but how do you make houses cheaper? We need a much more stable and sustainable housing market. I have no desire to crash the market. I think Arthur Grimes even knows that. What you can do is return to a much more sustainable and stable housing market. We want with wages to increase as well. So that the ratio with wages and housing is better. We used to have it is 3 to 1 and now it is 6 to 1 they are long-term goals about growing the economy. You can't just immediately bring up the wages to get that ratio back. You have to have a plan to do it. The government is currently just sitting on the sidelines and hoping for the best. We are going to talk to the farmers that is not even going to break even until 2019. We don't want them just relying on whole milk powder. Yes this will take time. But at the moment we have a government that is in complete denial about the economy is built on speculation in immigration. There is not a sustainable path. We are growing at about 3% and the economy is very strong at the moment. Bill English has said that a lot of people have been saying one thing or another would knock it down. The economy is not growing. It is growing a little bit per person. It is really moving per person. That is not sustainable. Just relying on the fact that we are a fantasy holiday destination for some American people is not a plan. Growth is growth. It matters of people are not feeling it. Downtown Auckland, people are feeling at. I think an implement will go down below 5% I don't think it will. Nurses cannot afford to live in Auckland. This is not saving the vast bulk of Nzers. It is clear that some people are not doing well. But is it the vast bulk of Nzers? Most people are doing fine. People are worried about whether the children or grandchildren will own homes in the future. I think housing, which is the core of building strong communities, people do want change. People need state housing if they cannot house themselves. The government denied there is even a problem. What you think about interest rates and a couple of weeks? Are you in a camp that thinks inflation is so low that we need to cut? I think that is what the reserve bank governor will do. But he is saying to the government that they have a responsibility, they are doing what they can in terms of the mandate. Is that mandate broken? It is.We need to review monetary policy. They had hoped to bring the currency down but it has gone up. We need to review the policy targets. Inflation it used to be the be all and end all. But we need to be realistic about other goals in the economy. The fear is that we go into a deflationary spiral. Do you fear that? It is a possibility. But monetary policy needs to support goals like full enjoyment and it takes into account the rest of the health of the economy. It is time for us to get back and take another look at the new world of monetary policy. Stimulating the economy through rate cuts is now a questionable proposition. I'm sure he will do it but at the moment the connection is broken. What do you think of Donald Trump's speech on Friday? I think he has the same trade policy as you. I think both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both saying that the TPP will need to be changed significantly. So I do not think it will get through. If the Americans are so worried about losing sovereignty, so it seems like NZ should also be worried about that. We want to say to offshore speculators that you cannot buy houses. But the TPP would stop us from doing that. We deserve the right to make our own law to say we will not have offshore speculators. The housing market is causing instability in our economy. We need the right to make decisions like banning offshore buyers. SEND US YOUR THOUGHTS. WE'RE ON TWITTER @NZQANDA. YOU CAN EMAIL US AT Q+A@TVNZ.CO.NZ, OR TEXT YOUR THOUGHTS AND FIRST NAME TO 2211. KEEP THEM BRIEF. EACH TEXT COSTS 50c. ACT LEADER DAVID SEYMOUR IS HERE AFTER THE BREAK AND THEN OUR PANEL. WELCOME BACK. I'M JOINED NOW BY ACT LEADER DAVID SEYMOUR, WHO IS IN SYDNEY, BUT KINDLY AGREED TO JOIN US EARLY THIS SUNDAY MORNING. Before we get into housing, the events of the weekend with Donald Trump, how does that make you feel? You have Donald Trump talking about anti-globalisation and America first, are you pessimistic about the global outlook? Year, I am. Trump is the highest profile of a number of events. You have to put Brexit in that. And the rise of Pauline Hanson. Even the Labour Party who have long blamed a Liberal party of trade, now want to reverse on that stance and reverse laws on foreigners buying houses. People are keen to pull up the drawbridges, put up the walls, and the act party remains resolute that we are a for a free trading democracy. Is this a straight out rejection of the policies he your party promotes over the years? What they have done is created the largest reduction in poverty worldwide that this world has ever seen. That is absolutely huge. That has been enormous. What it has also done is put pressure on wages and manufacturing across the Western world and there is a backlash across that. Either we take the approach that we blame the foreigners and oppose trade. That is the option of the Labour Party, New Zealand first and Greens. The other alternative is to say what other things we can do better at home? Speaking of homes, the problem with the Auckland housing market is that Auckland built 50,000 homes in the 1990s and only 40,000 in the past decade. We need to urgently reform our own land use planning. You mention the big Greens and Labour being Trump-esque. Do you put the reserve bank governor in that as well? I think what Stephen said was that some of the growth was being driven by immigration. The reserve bank governor has been put in a position where he has tried multiple different approaches to call the housing market, but he is not able to. After a long series of positions, he has started asking whether immigration as a lever that can be used to cool the housing market. I am taking the position that the only solution to a shortage of housing is to build more houses. That means our own land use planning and laws has to change. The unitary plan in Auckland is a big deal. This Wednesday we're due to see it. What are your bottom lineS for this? There is a large amount of an intensification happening around the Epsom electorate and the part of the city that I represent. 1800 new apartments a one school zone. That will cause concerns about congestion and community character. People are in favour and except that the centre of the city is going to become denser. We have to address the concerns that I have raised. It is important to accept that for 20 years now the official policy of the Auckland Council and various predecessors has been to force Auckland is to live closer together. We have country where less than 1% of the land is being built up on but there is a chronic shortage of land where people are allowed to build houses. Abandon the agenda of people forced to live closer and closer together at the expense of land being available. I want to live in a country where the average couple who aren't earning six-figure is have a shot at saving up a deposit and buying a home and having a place of their own. Increasingly, that is out of reach. I can't go on with 15% increases each year. Is it out of reach for you? Have you been able to buy a house here in central Auckland? I haven't. I spend a lot of time on my OE and took time off to run for election. I have the income. I'm very lucky in that sense. I am interested if a cop can afford to buy a house. The greatest year of home building in New Zealand was 1974. We have not beat that record for 40 years. It does come back to land use. Thank you very much for your time. We appreciate you getting up early. LET'S BRING IN OUR PANEL. Did Grant Robertson say anything that suggested that he and Labour would offer a viable alternative to Bill English and the government? I was looking for some specifics and at was not there for me. How do we actually get that? No real answers. No appetite for crashing the housing market. I think it is rhetoric and I would like to see some solid answers. They will have to roll it out over the next few years or so. They would be reluctant to give away any of their ideas. Grant Robertson was interesting on his monetary policy. Labour does have a housing policy which is a substantial piece of work. You talk about the policy target agreement, and there are so obviously some details that need to be worked out. Tax reform will be a key one. Will they bring in a capital gains tax? Will they go for a land tax? The pressure will go on Labour to answer these questions. He is talking about spending more. Are they talking about doing the job of the reserve bank for them? There is a really good case for fiscal policy to be used to build the economy when you have this pressure on monetary policy. Central banks have done as much as they possibly can and it is time for the government to step up. With such a strong balance sheet for the government, there is an opportunity for a government to step up here and take on the load. Is unfair an unrealistic to expect that the opposition or the government would have a magic bullet? It is a long time to the election. They cannot wait to the election for a new policy. They have to govern now. They take comfort in the polling instead of saying that they are here to govern on an issue. Housing has been an issue and if you hark back to the speech that the Prime Minister gave in 2007 when he was in opposition and now the problems have magnified. We have people like the head of the largest bank of New Zealand saying we need to get a handle on immigration. You can bring safeguards into your economy and to hide behind TPP is not good. You have the CEO of the country's biggest bank and most exposed to the dairy situation saying that this market is overcooked and the currency is too high. That is a challenge to the government's lack of policy. As you mentioned with Grant Robertson, does the government listen and worry? They worry. There is no question that they worry. Sometimes I feel like they are waving the white flag and floundering around. Paula Bennett said that it was not a crisis. Do these things resonate with them? I think they are stuck in a mindset where they feel like they have this comprehensive plan and they aren't getting across the message to the people, but it does not matter. It is still not enough. People in the community in Auckland and the business community are saying they struggle to get employees in Auckland. I spoke to a developer this week who said that they would love the government to do something about land banking on the fringes. There is frustration that the government is not putting money into infrastructure. Is it coming? I keep coming back to the interviews with Bill English and Co. They have hinted. If the unitary plan deliberations aren't addressed properly, the government will intervene and will appoint a Commissioner. They will go and look at the land banking and acquiring that. But they have to have the guts to actually do that. What do they think the government will hope to come out of the unitary plan this week? I think they don't want to hear any fallen away from the unitary plan. They want to see intensification still being there are no central suburbs and relaxation of the urban limits. We need to address the centre. There is an age of argument in Auckland where people say they can just build outside, but people want to be in an urban environment and be close to their friends and close to the best restaurants. The unitary plan is a political and economic risk for the government. The council has to decide whether they going to accept the unitary plan proposals. There is a big constituency on the Council who want to stop Auckland from growing up and some people want to stop it from growing out. The government, with all the rhetoric, they have to act. If the unitary plan does not deliver for them, they have to push the button. Is that not an admission of failure by the government? I think that has been the message ` you say whose fault is it that people are making all this money and other people are living in poverty. And Bill English says that it is the council. There is all the demand pressure is coming from immigration, and I think that is the side of it has to be addressed. Yes, there is an issue therefore councils, but the government has some tools that it can be playing with, and so far it has not. You want the tame effort. Correction: team effort. Get everyone together and trying get on the same page. Why is that not happening? National cannot give up the idea that they need to do that. They are reluctant to intervene to build houses. One of the strongest elements of the Labour policy is Kiwi build. I'm surprised that national do not have the equivalent of Kiwi build. If the government really wanted to break this debate open, they could force through their own policy. They have a capital gains tax. I think the point is why wait till the next election? Why aren't they moving now? Why doesn't matter if they take Labour's policy? Don't wait another 18 months. John Key always waits for the polls. It is not going to hurt them in the polls. When does it hurt the government? Global events may play into national is hands. There is global fear and anxiety. People are looking for stability and that may play into their hands. You can blame the council, the reserve bank, but someone has to take responsibility. If it does mean that business can't get employees, it will have effects. The Auckland business community said to the government that you need to move on the central rail link, that is when the government stepped up. That was a really important intervention. The country's biggest bank this week with a lot at stake in the housing market and pointing out that this currency is an issue. AFTER THE BREAK ` THE SEX OFFENDER LIVING NEAR A SCHOOL IN MANGERE. THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT HIM, BUT WHERE SHOULD PEOPLE LIKE HIM LIVE? THIS WEEKEND, A GROUP OF MANGERE RESIDENTS ARE AT CHURCHES AND FLEA MARKETS AROUND SOUTH AUCKLAND COLLECTING SIGNATURES FOR A PETITION THEY HOPE TO TAKE TO PARLIAMENT. THEY WANT A HIGH-RISK OFFENDER WHO IS LIVING CLOSE TO A SCHOOL MOVED OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD AND THE GOVERNMENT TO REVIEW THE WAY SEX OFFENDERS ARE PLACED IN SOUTH AUCKLAND COMMUNITIES. A FEW NIGHTS AGO THEY MET TO PLAN THEIR CAMPAIGN. WHENA OWEN WAS THERE. URBAN MUSIC LIVING ALONG THIS ESTABLISHED MANGERE CRESCENT ARE FAMILIES AND PENSIONERS. THERE'S A CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND AND A PRIMARY SCHOOL. AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE STREET, A HIGH-RISK CHILD-SEX OFFENDER. TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY SAFE, HE HAS A SECURITY GUARD AND AN ANKLE BRACELET, AND THE COMMUNITY SAYS THEY'VE EVEN BEEN ASKED TO HELP. WHAT DO YOU MEAN CORRECTIONS ARE PUTTING SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE COMMUNITY? OH, THEY'RE EXPECTING THE COMMUNITY TO KEEP AN EYE ON HIM FOR THEM. DID THEY SAY THAT? > THEY SAID IT HELPS. THEY SAID IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, THAT THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS KEEP AN EYE ON THIS PERSON. SO THE CORRECTIONS OFFICERS TOLD YOU WHAT? THAT SHE WANTED ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM TO BE HER EARS AND HER EYES. THIS IS A WORKING-CLASS COMMUNITY. THAT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY. THAT WAS DURING THE COMMUNITY'S LAST MEETING ABOUT THE OFFENDER, CLINTON WILTON. THEY MET AGAIN ON THURSDAY NIGHT WITHOUT CORRECTIONS TO DISCUSS A SOUTH AUCKLAND-WIDE PROTEST CAMPAIGN. WE'RE LIKE A DUMP, THAT THEY CAN JUST THROW ANYONE HERE. IT IS PHENOMENAL THE STRESS THAT US PARENTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE WE ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO WATCH OUR CHILDREN. URBAN MUSIC MANGERE IS WITHIN THE REGION OF MANUKAU, AND THAT HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF FORMER INMATES. THESE STATS ARE FIVE YEARS OLD BUT SHOW THE HIGH-RISK END. SEX OFFENDERS ARE HIGH IN AUCKLAND CENTRAL BECAUSE OF THE INNER-CITY BOARDING HOUSES, BUT THE MANGERE MP SAYS BOARDING HOUSES ARE NOW BECOMING A FEATURE OF SOUTH AUCKLAND. ONCE UPON A TIME, BOARDING HOUSES ` AND WE DID HAVE HALFWAY HOUSES ` WERE CONSIDERED TO BE SORT OF A STEPPING STONE FOR PRISONERS TO BE RELEASED AND A PATHWAY FOR THEM TO REHABILITATE BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. BUT WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS, WE'VE GOT FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN LIVING IN THOSE BOARDING HOUSES. HAVE WE? HAVE WE HERE IN MANGERE? > WE DO. WE DO. WELL, WE'VE JUST VISITED ONE OF THE MANY MANGERE BOARDING HOUSES. WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO FILM THERE, BUT IN THE COMMON ROOM THERE ARE ABOUT A DOZEN YOUNG CHILDREN AND THEIR MUMS AND DADS. AND THE STAFF TOLD US THEY DO ACCEPT FORMER PRISONERS, BUT SOME DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP A ROOM THERE BECAUSE OF THEIR STRICT RULES ` NO DRINK, DRUGS OR VIOLENCE. BUT THE OFFENDER, CLINTON WILTON, WAS FIRST PLACED NEXT TO A KURA KAUPAPA SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL WASN'T NOTIFIED. BUT WHEN HE WAS MOVED 2KM AWAY, NEARBY JEAN BATTEN SCHOOL WAS CONTACTED BY CORRECTIONS. ALL ALONG CORRECTIONS WANTED HIM IN A SECURE FACILITY UNDER PUBLIC PROTECTION BECAUSE... DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTION FIGURES SHOW THAT 16% OF SEX OFFENDERS CAN BE EXPECTED TO REOFFEND IN SOME WAY WITHIN TWO YEARS. THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS TOLD US THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE FOR THIS REPORT, BUT WE WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CHALLENGES ARE, THEIR PROCESSES FOR PLACING HIGH-RISK OFFENDERS BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, SO WE CAME TO AUCKLAND UNIVERSITY TO TALK TO CRIMINOLOGIST DR RONALD KRAMER. FOR ME THERE'S A BROADER PRINCIPLE HERE, WHICH IS IF SOMEONE'S DONE THEIR TIME, THEY'VE DONE THEIR TIME. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PRINCIPLE WE WANT TO INTERFERE WITH. I MEAN, WHAT'S THE SOLUTION THAT'S EFFECTIVE BEING PROPOSED? WHERE CAN HE GO? I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE. I DON'T CARE WHERE THEY PUT HIM. PUT HIM ON A FARM AWAY FROM EVERYBODY. TRY AND GET RID OF THEM AND GET THEM AWAY FROM EVERYBODY. THEY'VE GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE. THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE BUT NOT CLOSE TO WHERE THE KIDS ARE. SOMBRE MUSIC THE CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND CLOSE TO THE SEX OFFENDER'S HOUSE IS EMPTY. NEIGHBOURS SAY THEY'RE GETTING PARANOID. HOW DO YOU FEEL LIVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR? IT'S HORRIBLE. I HEAR A HELICOPTER GO ROUND, AND I THINK, 'MY GOD, HE'S GOT OUT.' DR KRAMER INSISTS SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DISPARITY ARE THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS HERE. THE CHOICES THAT CORRECTIONS ARE MAKING ARE BEING SEEN AS PROBLEMATIC PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY'RE OPERATING IN A CONTEXT OF SUCH EXTREME INEQUALITY, RIGHT, SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY HARD FOR CORRECTIONS TO PUT SOMEBODY IN REMUERA, BECAUSE THAT'S A PRIVILEGED COMMUNITY AND THE MINUTE THEY HEAR OF THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO MOBILISE AND THEY'RE GOING TO FREAK OUT. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PRIVILEGED, THEY VOTE, SO THE POLITICIANS ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY THINKS. THEY'RE NOT SO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE IN SOUTH AUCKLAND THINK. THE WAY THEY TREAT PACIFIC ISLANDERS, THEY STILL TREAT US LIKE A DUMPING PLACE. AND THEY TREAT US LIKE WE ARE SLUMS. JUDITH NEEDS TO MOVE THIS GUY NEXT TO HER. JUDITH COLLINS? > YEAH, JUDITH COLLINS NEEDS TO MOVE THIS GUY NEXT TO HER AND` NEXT TO HER? > YEAH, NEXT TO HER HOUSE OR BY HER STREET AND SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE AND PUT HERSELF INTO OUR SHOES. URBAN MUSIC SO THIS GROUP IS MOBILISING. THERE WILL BE A PROTEST SOON, AND THEY'LL TAKE A PETITION AROUND THE FLEA MARKETS, THE CHURCHES AND THEN TO PARLIAMENT. THEY WANT THEIR UNWANTED NEIGHBOUR OUT AND THE PROBLEM OF HIGH-RISK OFFENDERS LIVING AMONG THEM ADDRESSED. IT IS NOT JUST OUR ISSUE. IT IS EVERYBODY'S ISSUE. IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. IT'S THE WHOLE NATION'S ISSUE. WHENA OWEN REPORTING THERE. A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE ` CORRECTIONS TOLD US THAT FINDING ACCOMMODATION FOR OFFENDERS IS VERY CHALLENGING, AND THEY WOULD NEVER PLACE AN OFFENDER ANYWHERE WHERE THEY FELT THEY WOULD BE AN 'UNMANAGEABLE' RISK TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS PARTICULAR OFFENDER HAS TWO STAFF MONITORING HIM AT ALL TIMES. AND AS WHENA SAID IN HER TRACK, WE HOPE TO INTERVIEW SOMEONE FROM CORRECTIONS ON THIS ISSUE SOON. STILL TO COME ` JACK TAME FROM THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION IN CLEVELAND, OHIO, THIS WEEK. HE TALKS TO TWO FORMER PRESIDENTIAL ADVISORS ABOUT THE BATTLE AHEAD. AFTER 15 YEARS OF WARS IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AFTER TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT AND THOUSANDS OF LIVES LOST, THE SITUATION IS WORSE THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN BEFORE. THIS IS THE LEGACY OF HILLARY CLINTON ` DEATH, DESTRUCTION, TERRORISM AND WEAKNESS. DONALD TRUMP ACCEPTING HIS NOMINATION AS THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR US PRESIDENT. BETWEEN HIS WIFE MELANIA'S BUNGLED SPEECH AND IN-FIGHTING BETWEEN DELEGATES WHO STILL SUPPORT OTHER CANDIDATES, THIS WEEK'S CONVENTION WASN'T THE SHOW OF PARTY UNITY THAT TRUMP WOULD'VE LIKED. OUR US CORRESPONDENT JACK TAME HAS BEEN IN OHIO. FUNKY MUSIC WELL, YOU KNOW, HE WASN'T MY FIRST CHOICE... I'M A DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER. ...OR MY SECOND CHOICE... WHERE DO YOU STAND ON DONALD TRUMP? WELL, HE'S OUR CANDIDATE AND I SUPPORT HIM. ...OR MY THIRD CHOICE, BUT NOW HE IS. WITH THE WORLD'S EYES ON CLEVELAND, DONALD TRUMP'S CONVENTION CAN BE MEASURED BY ONE LITTLE WORD, OR THE LACK THEREOF ` WELL, WHENEVER THERE'S A HEATED PRIMARY, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A WINNER AND A LOSER. AND SOME PEOPLE GET UPSET. ...'UNITY.' IT IS CRITICAL. A NOMINEE FROM EITHER PARTY CANNOT WIN UNLESS THEY HAVE 90% OF THE BASE OF THEIR OWN PARTY SUPPORTING THEM. RIGHT NOW, DONALD TRUMP ONLY HAS ABOUT 75% OF THE PARTY BEHIND HIM. HE NEEDS TO GET THAT UP TO 90, AND THIS IS HIS BEST SHOT TO DO IT. BUT THE FIRST SESSION OF THE 2016 CONVENTION QUICKLY TURNED INTO CHAOS, AS A GROUP OF NEVER-TRUMPERS PROTESTED THE RULES AND STORMED OUT. WHEN THEY START DOING STUNTS LIKE WALKING OUT, I STARTED CROSSING OFF COLORADO, ON THEY WAY OUT THEY SAID, 'OH, WE'LL JUST COME BACK IN.' SO IT WAS JUST A STUNT. I SAID, 'IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH OUR PLATFORM, AS A REPUBLICAN PARTY, 'OR OUR NOMINEES, PLEASE LEAVE.' DONALD DAY TRUMP, HAVING RECEIVED A MAJORITY OF THESE VOTES ENTITLED TO BE CASE AT THE CONVENTION, ENTITLED TO BE CAST AT THE CONVENTION, HAS BEEN SELECTED AS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. APPLAUSE THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN IT. BUT, OF COURSE, IT WASN'T. MAYBE BECAUSE THIS YEAR'S PRIMARY RACE HAD SUCH A BIG FIELD, MAYBE BECAUSE THE PRIMARY CONTEST WAS SO NASTY, OR MAYBE SIMPLY BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP IS SUCH A DIVISIVE CANDIDATE, THE RELUCTANCE TO SUPPORT HIM, AMONGST SOME OF THE DELEGATES, WAS PALPABLE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE A VERY POLARISED COUNTRY. IF YOU'RE RUNNING 12 POINTS BEHIND MITT ROMNEY AMONG REPUBLICANS, YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE IT SOMEWHERE AND THAT'S VERY HARD. WE HAVE TO UNITE OUR PARTY IN ORDER TO DEFEAT HILLARY. AND WE'VE STILL GOT MEMBERS OF MY OWN DELEGATION IN KANSAS THAT ARE NEVER-TRUMPERS. AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM TO` A VOTE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN DONALD TRUMP IS A VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON. AMERICAN SAMOA'S NINE DELEGATES ALL COMMITTED TO TRUMP. DO YOU HAVE ANY RESERVATIONS? WE HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS. BUT THIS PARTICULAR WOULD-BE ELECTED OFFICIAL, WE'RE PRAYING, WE SEEM TO KNOW HIM NOW, WARTS AND ALL. PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THIS REPUBLICAN CONVENTION ARE THE NUMBER OF SO-CALLED ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS MISSING. GEORGE BUSH SR IS MISSING, SO IS GEORGE BUSH JR, SO IS JEB BUSH, SO TOO ARE THE LAST TWO REPUBLICAN NOMINEES FOR PRESIDENT, JOHN MCCAIN AND MITT ROMNEY. AND HERE IN OHIO, DESPITE IT BEING HIS HOME STATE, THE GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH IS A NOTABLE ABSENCE. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE SENDING A SIGNAL, BUT DONALD TRUMP'S MESSAGE IS 'THAT'S THE ESTABLISHMENT. THAT'S THE PAST.' AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, SO HE'S TRYING TO TELL AND LOT OF RANK AND FILE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE UNHAPPY WITH THOSE KIND OF ESTABLISHMENT PEOPLE THAT HE'S GONNA TAKE THE PARTY IN A NEW DIRECTION. A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA HEAR THAT. THAT'S WHY HE WON THE PRIMARIES. AND THOUGH SEVERAL OF TRUMP'S HIGH-PROFILE PRIMARY OPPONENTS SPOKE IN HIS SUPPORT ` I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP. IT IS TIME TO COME TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. ...THE REAL STRATEGY FOR WINNING OVER THE NEVER-TRUMPERS WAS TO REMIND THEM OF A COMMON ENEMY. COS WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT FOUR YEARS OF HILLARY CLINTON WILL BRING. HILLARY CLINTON. HILLARY CLINTON. HILLARY CLINTON. HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. IN FACT FIVETHIRTYEIGHT THAT THE TWO MOST COMMON WORDS USED IN FACT FIVETHIRTYEIGHT REPORTED THAT THE TWO MOST COMMON WORDS USED BY SPEAKERS ON THE SECOND NIGHT OF THE CONVENTION WERE 'HILLARY' AND 'CLINTON.' I'D VOTE FOR YOU BEFORE I'D VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON AND I DON'T KNOW YOU. WE HAVE THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE COUNTRY ELECTS ITS NEXT PRESIDENT. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET BEHIND OUR NOMINEE TO STOP THE CLINTON MACHINE. THE MAN WHO GOT BARACK OBAMA ELECTED TO OFFICE THINKS IT'S PROBABLY THE RIGHT APPROACH. I THINK THEY HAVE TO TAKE SOME RISKS ABOUT PARTY UNITY AND HOPE THAT HILLARY CLINTON UNIFIES THEIR PARTY. AND DO SOME OUTREACH. NOW, SOME OF THE OUTREACH HAS TO BE COLLEGE EDUCATED REPUBLICANS, A LOT OF WOMEN. BUT ALSO BEYOND THAT TO INDEPENDENTS AND, YES, TO SOME MINORITIES BECAUSE WE'RE A VERY DIVERSE COUNTRY AND YOU CAN'T WIN WITHOUT REACHING THE BROAD SWEEP OF OUR POPULATION. BUT ALL OF THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN A BIT EASIER IF NOT FOR THIS. IF YOU LOVE OUR COUNTRY AND LOVE YOUR CHILDREN AS MUCH AS I KNOW THAT YOU DO, STAND AND SPEAK AND VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE. VOTE FOR CANDIDATES UP AND DOWN THE TICKET WHO YOU TRUST TO DEFEND OUR FREEDOM. CROWD JEERS TO JEERS AND RAGE, SCREAMS AND CHANTS, AND A STADIUM OF BOOS, ASKED TO ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP, TED CRUZ REFUSED. THAT WAS AN UNDERHANDED BLOW AND HE DESERVED TO BE BOOED OFF THE STAGE TONIGHT. WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS? HE LOST. HE'S A POOR LOSER. TRUMP TAUNTED HIM BACK, THE PARTY'S TWO MOST POPULAR PRIMARY CANDIDATES IN ONE VERY UGLY PUBLIC FACE-OFF. THE WHOLE SAGA MEANING THAT, BETWEEN HIS WIFE'S BOTCHED SPEECH AND HIS RIVAL'S SNUB, DONALD TRUMP'S SPEECH WASN'T EVEN THE BIGGEST TALKING POINT OF THE WEEK. AND UNITY HERE, SAFE TO SAY THE REPUBLICANS AREN'T THERE YET. YOUR FEEDBACK AFTER THE BREAK. THEN WE LOOK BACK TO 1984 AND THE TENSE DIPLOMACY AROUND THE ANZUS FALLOUT. THAT'S COMING UP. LET'S HEAR SOME OF YOUR FEEDBACK NOW. MAT CHAVEZ TWEETED... SHANE ARNDELL STATED THAT... TIM PATE SAID... ROGER GRAY TWEETED... WITH THIS WEEK'S ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE U.S. WILL SEND A WARSHIP TO NZ LATER THIS YEAR, IT'S FASCINATING TO LOOK BACK TO WHEN THE ANZUS FALLOUT BEGAN. IT'S 1984, AND THE LABOUR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN VOTED IN BUT IS YET TO FORMALLY TAKE OFFICE. US SECRETARY OF STATE GEORGE SHULTZ IS IN WELLINGTON FOR AN ANZUS MEETING, AND THE US IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEW GOVERNMENT'S ANTI-NUCLEAR POLICY. IN A DAY OF TURMOIL AROUND THE CORRIDORS OF GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION TODAY, THE ANZUS COUNCIL FINISHED ITS DELIBERATIONS EARLIER THAN SCHEDULED, AND AFTER LUNCH, A LARGE PRESS CONFERENCE KEPT ASKING MR SHULTZ JUST HOW IMPORTANT THE QUESTION OF ENTRY OF NUCLEAR SHIPS TO NZ WAS FOR THE FUTURE OF ANZUS. MAN: IS IT ESSENTIAL THAT YOUR SHIPS BE ALLOWED INTO MEMBER-NATION PORTS FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE TREATY? OF COURSE. WHAT KIND OF ALLIANCE IS IT IF THE MILITARY FORCES OF THE COUNTRIES INVOLVED ARE NOT ABLE TO BE IN CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER? MR SHULTZ SAID THAT AMERICA AND AUSTRALIA HAD SIMILAR PROBLEMS TO RESOLVE WHEN THE LABOUR PARTY THERE BECAME THE GOVERNMENT LAST YEAR, BUT THAT DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES HAD REACHED THE ONLY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION ` THAT THE VISITS OF NUCLEAR SHIPS WERE ESSENTIAL TO ANZUS. REPORTS FROM CALIFORNIA TODAY SAY THAT PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFUL WALTER MONDALE HAS JOINED IN THE ANZUS ROW. HE SAID THAT THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT FORCE NZ TO OPEN ITS PORTS TO AMERICAN SHIPS. BUT MR SHULTZ RULED OUT AT LEAST TRADE AS A SANCTION AGAINST NZ TO HELP IT MAKE UP ITS MIND. THE ANZUS ALLIANCE IS A SECURITY AND MILITARY ALLIANCE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE. SHORTLY AFTER THE PRESS CONFERENCE, MR SHULTZ MET THE PRIME MINSTER ELECT, MR DAVID LANGE. THEIR MEETING LASTED FOR OVER HALF AN HOUR. A MEETING AT WHICH MR SHULTZ WAS EXPECTED TO REPEAT HIS EARLIER STANCE ` ANZUS WAS NOT A NEGOTIABLE TREATY; NO NUCLEAR SHIPS, NO ANZUS. Fran just spotted herself in the background. She has not changed a bit. WAKA HUIA IS NEXT. REMEMBER, Q+A REPEATS TONIGHT AT 11.35PM. THANKS FOR WATCHING AND THANKS FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS. THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS AND THOSE WERE THE ANSWERS. THAT'S Q+A. SEE YOU NEXT SUNDAY MORNING AT 9.