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Q+A presents hard-hitting political news and commentary. Keep up to date with what is truly going on in New Zealand.

Primary Title
  • Q+A
Date Broadcast
  • Sunday 6 November 2016
Start Time
  • 09 : 00
Finish Time
  • 10 : 00
Duration
  • 60:00
Channel
  • TVNZ 1
Broadcaster
  • Television New Zealand
Programme Description
  • Q+A presents hard-hitting political news and commentary. Keep up to date with what is truly going on in New Zealand.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captioning Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
MORENA, GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO Q+A. I'M GREG BOYED. TODAY ` AFTER A VOLATILE WEEK, THE US PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ARE IN A TIGHT RACE TO THE FINISH. POLITICAL EDITOR CORIN DANN IS IN THE US, WHERE HE'S BEEN SPEAKING TO SOME TOP US POLITICAL STRATEGISTS. THEIR INSIGHTS ON THE DAYS AHEAD ` SENATOR WARREN AND SENATOR SANDERS, AMONG OTHERS, HAVE BEGUN TALKING ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF CABINET APPOINTEES WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AND UNACCEPTABLE TO THEM IN A CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. I DON'T THINK DONALD TRUMP, IF HE IS PRESIDENT, IS GOING TO HAVE A QUICK FINGER WITH THE NUCLEAR BUTTON. AND WE LOOK AT THE FINAL DAYS OF CAMPAIGNING ` THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S DRIVE TO GET CLINTON OVER THE LINE, AND DONALD TRUMPS LAST-MINUTE MOMENTUM. I LIKE THE FACT THAT HE'S INDEPENDENT, HE'S NOT POLITICALLY CORRECTED, THAT HE CAN SPEAK THE TRUTH WITHOUT FEAR. TO ELECT THE FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE US IS A FANTASTIC GOAL, AND HILLARY CLINTON IS MORE QUALIFIED THAN ANY CANDIDATE EVER. DUE TO THE LIVE NATURE OF Q+A, WE APOLOGISE FOR THE LACK OF CAPTIONS FOR SOME ITEMS. AND WE'LL HAVE ANALYSIS FROM OUR SPECIAL US ELECTION PANEL. THEY'LL STAY WITH US FOR NEXT WEEK'S ELECTION RESULT PROGRAMME TOO ` POLITICAL SCIENTIST DR RAYMOND MILLER FROM AUCKLAND UNIVERSITY, FRAN O'SULLIVAN, HEAD OF BUSINESS FOR NZME AND NICK LEGGETT, FORMER PORIRUA MAYOR, NOW A POLITICAL STRATEGY AND COMMUNICATIONS CONSULTANT. BEFORE WE CROSS TO CORIN IN NEW YORK, THE GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER IS THIS MORNING REPORTING THAT US OFFICIALS ARE BRACING THEMSELVES FOR VIOLENCE ON ELECTION DAY AND ARE WARNING ABOUT THE DANGERS OF VIGILANTE POLL MONITORS. HERE'S A TRUMP MILITIA TRAINING IN GEORGIA, BUT IN OHIO, A JUDGE HAS ISSUED A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST SUCH GROUPS, SAYING ANYONE WHO INTIMIDATED AND HARASSED PEOPLE OUTSIDE POLLING BOOTHS WOULD FACE CONTEMPT OF COURT IN THAT STATE AT LEAST. DONALD TRUMP HAS REPEATEDLY SAID THE ELECTION IS RIGGED AND HE MAY NOT ACCEPT THE OUTCOME. ON TUESDAY IN THE US ` WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON NZ TIME ` WE'LL FINALLY HAVE A RESOLUTION OF SORTS TO A PRESIDENTIAL RACE THAT'S PROVED VOLATILE TO THE END. HILLARY CLINTON AND DONALD TRUMP APPEAR TO BE INCREDIBLY CLOSE IN THE CONTEST FOR THE POPULAR VOTE. BUT IT'S THE PATH TO THE MAGIC 270 ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES THAT MATTERS NOW, AND IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THOSE BATTLEGROUND STATES WE'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT. POLITICAL EDITOR CORIN DANN JOINS ME FROM NEW YORK OUTSIDE TRUMP TOWER, WHERE BOTH CANDIDATES WILL END UP ON ELECTION DAY. I'm outside Trump Tower. This is the venue for Donald Trump on election night. It's pretty noisy with a rally outside. It has been a pretty strong week for Donald Trump. It does feel that he has momentum going into the final stages. The latest polling overnight from the key pollsters, they have Clinton with a 3% lead. It is all about the battleground states. Hillary Clinton probably isn't doing quite as well there but does have an advantage in a narrow road to get through. Donald Trump has to win Florida and Ohio. In the end it's what they call the ground game here that is Hillary Clinton's ground game. CALIFORNIA, AS YOU KNOW, IS VERY DEMOCRATIC, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A LOT TO GET THE VOTE OUT IN CALIFORNIA. AND INSTEAD WHAT WE DO IS WE PHONE BANK AND WE TEXT TO GET THE VOTE OUT IN THE MAJOR BATTLEGROUND STATES, GET THE HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS TO THE POLLS, VOTING EARLY, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THAT VOTE IN. AND WHAT ARE THOSE BATTLEGROUND STATES AT THE MOMENT? I SEE ON YOUR BOARD YOU'VE GOT, IS IT MICHIGAN COMING INTO PLAY, EVEN, THEN? MICHIGAN'S NOW HAPPENING. ARIZONA IS NOW HAPPENING, COLORADO, FLORIDA, NORTH CAROLINA, OHIO, IOWA, ALL THE BATTLEGROUND STATES. AND WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO TURN ON A DIME, GO FROM ONE TO THE OTHER, ONE TO THE OTHER. WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT IT'S GOT THIS CLOSE AFTER HAVING LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS GOING TO BE A LANDSLIDE? WELL, YES. YES, BUT WE KIND OF ALWAYS KNEW IT WOULD BE A CLOSE ELECTION BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY AMERICA IS. IT'S VERY DIVIDED, UNFORTUNATELY. BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS WITH WHAT COMEY DID IS REALLY UNFORGIVABLE AND SORT OF ABERRATIONAL. BUT HILLARY CLINTON IS GOING TO COME BACK NO MATTER WHAT. HAS IT RALLIED YOU GUYS? ARE YOU GETTING MORE PEOPLE COMING TO YOU SAYING, 'RIGHT, WE NEED TO GET MOTIVATED HERE'? YES, IT HAS MADE ALL OF US EVEN MORE DETERMINED. YOU TRY AND REACH MOST VOTERS A COUPLE OF TIMES, DON'T YOU? YES. WELL, WITH THE TEXTING, WHICH IS A NEW PHENOMENON, WHAT WE DO ` WE LITERALLY CAN SEND OUT HUNDREDS OF TEXTS. ONE PERSON CAN SEND OUT HUNDREDS OF TEXTS TO HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, AND THOSE WHO RESPOND, THEY START A CONVERSATION WITH. THOSE WHO WANT TO BE OPTED OUT ARE OPTED OUT IMMEDIATELY. AND IF SOMEBODY IS A TRUMP SUPPORTER, WE JUST NOTE THAT AND ALSO OPT THEM OUT, ARCHIVE THAT MESSAGE. BUT WE LITERALLY CONTACT PEOPLE MULTIPLE TIMES UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY VOTE. ONCE THEY VOTE, THEY'RE OFF THE LIST. IT'S SEEN AS ONE ADVANTAGE FOR CLINTON, ISN'T IT, THIS, THE GROUND GAME, THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. IS THAT WHAT MIGHT BE THE DIFFERENCE, DO YOU THINK? I THINK SO. THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HAS A FANTASTIC GROUND GAME, NOT ONLY HERE IN CALIFORNIA BUT ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES. SHE HAS BEEN ORGANISING HER GROUND GAME FOR MONTHS, AND THAT DOES SEPARATE US FROM MR TRUMP. HOW ARE THE ANXIETY LEVELS FIVE DAYS OUT? HIGH. (LAUGHS) WE KNOW THIS IS AN ELECTION OF THE CENTURY. WE WANT TO ELECT THE FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT. WE WANT TO ELECT HILLARY CLINTON. WE WANT TO SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY. FOR PEOPLE IN NZ WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND, HOW IS IT THAT TRUMP CAN BE A FEW DAYS OUT ACTUALLY WITHIN A CHANCE OF ACTUALLY WINNING THIS? WELL, I HAVE A PERSONAL THEORY. THE PERSONAL THEORY IS IF YOU'VE LIVED IN THE BUBBLE OF TALK RADIO IN AMERICA AND YOU'VE LIVED IN THE BUBBLE OF FOX TELEVISION IN AMERICA, ALL HE'S DOING IS SPOUTING THE SAME FALSEHOODS THAT YOU'VE BEEN HEARING ON TALK RADIO AND FOX TELEVISION FOR TWO AND THREE YEARS, AND IT'S JUST REINFORCED. AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT BUBBLE, AND THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY PERSPECTIVE ON REALITY. ONE THING HISTORY HAS TAUGHT US IS THAT WHEN DEMOCRATS VOTE, DEMOCRATS IN. IT'S ALL ABOUT VOTING, GETTING OUT TO VOTE. AND HAS HILLARY CLINTON MANAGED TO GET THE SAME LEVEL OF ENTHUSIASM ` VOTER ENTHUSIASM ` THAT BARACK OBAMA GOT? WELL, YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEBODY WHO THINKS SHE HAS, ABSOLUTELY. THOSE WHO SAID THEY WEREN'T ENTHUSIASTIC, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MOON THEY'VE BEEN ON, BECAUSE LITERALLY TO ELECT THE FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS A FANTASTIC GOAL, AND HILLARY CLINTON IS MORE QUALIFIED THAN ANY CANDIDATE EVER, SO` AND THE ALTERNATIVE IS UNTHINKABLE. MELISSA GRANT THERE FROM WESTSIDE DEMOCRATIC HQ IN SANTA MONICA. CORIN AND PRODUCER PETER STEVENS ALSO SPOKE TO SOME OF THE VOLUNTEERS MANNING THE PHONES. I AM NOT THE LEAST BIT PANICKED, BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS NO WAY THAT DONALD TRUMP CAN WIN THIS ELECTION. WHAT BROUGHT YOU DOWN HERE? WELL, NEED, NECESSITY, YOU KNOW? THIS IS OUR` OUR COUNTRY'S AT STAKE HERE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW? THIS IS NOT A NORMAL ELECTION. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE WHO IS IMMENSELY QUALIFIED AND SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE IN A KINDERGARTEN DEBATE. AS I SAY, AS A CITIZEN, TO BE A RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN FOR THE FUTURE OF MY CHILDREN. SHE WILL MAKE A GREAT PRESIDENT. AND IT WILL BE WONDERFUL HAVING A FEMALE PRESIDENT. WHAT ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAY SHE'S UNTRUSTWORTHY? THEY'RE FULL OF SHIT. I'M SORRY. IF THIS ELECTION DOESN'T GO THE RIGHT WAY, GOD FORBID, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF US IN NZ. I AM AFRAID OF WHAT THE COUNTRY WILL TURN INTO IF WE HAVE TRUMP AS A PRESIDENT. HE'S A HATEFUL MAN, AND I'LL DO ANYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. DOES IT WORK? DO PEOPLE RESPOND? THE RESPONSES ARE MAYBE 50-50 OF PEOPLE WHO ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THE TEXT, AND, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDERS. THEN IT SORT OF DETERIORATES FROM THERE. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF SHE LOSES? I'LL GO TO MEXICO. (LAUGHS) TO MAKE SENSE OF THE FORCES THAT ARE SHAPING THIS ELECTION AND THE NEXT PRESIDENT'S TERM ` WHOEVER THAT MAY BE ` CORIN DANN MET UP WITH WELL KNOWN US POLITICAL COMMENTATOR DAN SCHNUR. DAN SCHNUR DESCRIBES HIMSELF AS AN INDEPENDENT. HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF THE INSTITUTE OF POLITICS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. CORIN BEGAN BY ASKING HOW TRUMP HAS MANAGED TO CLOSE THE GAP WITH CLINTON. NOW. IN THE CLOSING WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN, HE HAS MANAGED TO CLOSE THE GAP WITH CLINTON IN A VERY VERY SURPRISING WAY. I SAY THIS A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. IT'S STILL UNLIKELY THAT HE WINS JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SOME STRUCTURAL AND LOGISTICAL AND FINANCIAL ADVANTAGES THAT CLINTON HAS, BUT MOST PEOPLE WHO PAY ATTENTION TO SUCH THINGS WOULD'VE TOLD YOU LAST JUNE OR JULY THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A LANDSLIDE, NOT A SQUEAKER. WHY HAS THAT HAPPENED? IN BOTH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ESTABLISHMENT AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ESTABLISHMENT AS WELL OVER THE YEARS HAVE REALLY TAKEN FOR GRANTED THEIR SUPPORT FROM LARGE CHUNKS OF THEIR RESPECTIVE PARTY BASES AND REALLY HAVEN'T NOTICED THE IDEOLOGICAL SPLITS THAT HAVE EMERGED WITHIN THEIR PARTY. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU ARE A TRADITIONAL ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN FIGURE, YOU THINK, 'WELL, I HAVE THE ECONOMIC CONSERVATIVES 'ON WALL STREET, I HAVE THE NATIONAL SECURITY CONSERVATIVES 'ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, 'I HAVE THE SOCIAL AND RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES, 'AND THEY'LL TURN OUT FOR ME.' AND WHAT THEY DIDN'T NOTICE, BECAUSE THEY WERE SO BUSY PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE ECONOMIC CONSERVATIVES, BUT THEY WERE IGNORING THE CULTURAL CONSERVATIVES, WHO GOT MORE AND MORE ANGRY AND MORE AND MORE ALIENATED. BY THE SAME TOKEN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, ORGANISED LABOUR AND WELL-MONEYED FINANCIAL INTERESTS ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE BECAME INCREASINGLY INFLUENTIAL, AND YOUNG VOTERS IN PARTICULAR, WHO NEVER REALLY HAD THE EAR OF THEIR POLITICAL LEADERS, BECAME VERY DISAFFECTED UNTIL BERNIE SANDERS CAME ALONG AND MADE IT CLEAR TO THEM THAT HE WAS WILLING TO LISTEN. ONCE AGAIN, THE COMMON THREAD BETWEEN TRUMP AND SANDERS IN THIS ELECTION AND I THINK IN THE YEARS GOING FORWARD IS BOTH OF THEM SHOWED A WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN TO VOTERS WHO OTHERWISE WEREN'T GETTING ATTENTION FROM POLITICAL LEADERS. AND EVEN IF TRUMP AND SANDERS SUPPORTERS DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THEIR CANDIDATES WERE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING THEY PROMISED TO, THEY WERE JUST HAPPY TO HAVE SOMEBODY LISTEN. IS THAT SENTIMENT A ONE-OFF, OR IS IT GOING TO STAY, THAT FEELING OF DISCONNECTION? WELL, THERE'S A CHILDREN'S BOOK THAT'S BEEN POPULAR IN THIS COUNTRY FOR MANY YEARS. YOU MAY HAVE IT AS WELL. THE TITLE IS IF YOU GIVE A MOUSE A COOKIE, HE'S GOING TO WANT A GLASS OF MILK, AND I SUSPECT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE NEWLY EMPOWERED ACTIVISTS IN BOTH PARTIES IS THEY'RE NOT SATIATED AT ALL, JUST THE OPPOSITE. THEY SEE THE INFLUENCE THEY CAN HAVE IF THEY GET ENGAGED AND STAY INVOLVED. I DON'T THINK THESE SENTIMENTS ARE GOING AWAY AT ALL. IN FACT, IF ANYTHING, I THINK THEY'LL CONTINUE TO GROW IN THE YEARS AHEAD. I MEAN, THIS IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGE IN SOCIETY SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, BUT AT LEAST IN THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, AS WE WERE CHANGING FROM AN AGRARIAN TO INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY, AT LEAST THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE DISPLACED KNEW WHAT TO DO. THEY LEFT THEIR FAMILY FARM, AND THEY WENT TO THE CITY TO WORK IN A FACTORY OR ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE. IT'S NOT LIKE A 55-YEAR-OLD CONSTRUCTION WORKER'S GOING TO MOVE TO SILICON VALLEY AND ACQUIRE FINANCING FOR A SOCIAL-NETWORKING START-UP. HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT COMES NEXT AND DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT MOST PEOPLE NAMED BUSH OR CLINTON ARE PAYING MUCH ATTENTION TO HIM, BUT SOMEONE NAMED TRUMP AND SANDERS IS. DO YOU THINK WHOEVER WINS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO FACE REAL OPPOSITION FROM ANOTHER POLITICIAN WHO CAN CAPTURE THAT MOVEMENT? WELL, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I THINK NOT ONLY IS THE PREMISE OF YOUR QUESTION RIGHT, BUT I THINK THAT CHALLENGE MORE LIKELY THAN NOT COMES FROM WITHIN THE PRESIDENT'S OWN PARTY. AND SO JUST AS THE TEA PARTY AND THE FREEDOM CAUCUS IN CONGRESS HAS MADE LIFE VERY VERY DIFFICULT FOR REPUBLICAN PARTY LEADERS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY THAT BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS MAKE LIFE JUST AS DIFFICULT` SO THEY'LL PULL HILLARY CLINTON TO THE LEFT? WELL, IN FACT, THEY ARE ALREADY DETERMINED TO DO SO. SENATOR WARREN AND SENATOR SANDERS AMONG OTHERS HAVE BEGUN TALKING ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF CABINET APPOINTEES WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AND UNACCEPTABLE TO THEM IN A CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. AND EVEN IF PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON WAS INCLINED TO TRY AND WORK ACROSS PARTY LINES, AS HER HUSBAND WAS MANY YEARS AGO, THE GRAVITATIONAL PULL FROM THE BASE OF HER OWN PARTY DOESN'T MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. SO A LOT OF THAT DISSATISFACTION YOU TALK ABOUT SEEMS TO COME OUT IN OPPOSITION TO THE TPP AND THOSE SORTS OF TRADE DEALS. WELL, THEY CERTAINLY DO IN NEW ZEALAND. IS THIS THE END FOR THAT SORT OF GLOBALISED MOVEMENT? HERE WE SIT IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, WHAT WE VERY VERY IMMODESTLY CALL THE CAPITAL OF THE PACIFIC RIM, AND OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY, OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY IS BUILT ON OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE REST OF THE PACIFIC RIM, WITH YOUR COUNTRY AND WITH YOUR NEIGHBOURS ACROSS THE OCEAN. THAT'S WHY WHEN OUR ECONOMY THRIVES, IT'S BECAUSE WE AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE AND EXPAND THOSE TYPES OF RELATIONSHIPS, IN TERMS OF TRADE, IN TERMS OF IMMIGRATION, IN TERMS OF DIPLOMACY. AND WHEN A COUNTRY LOOKS INWARD, AS OURS TENDS TO BE DOING RIGHT NOW, IT SACRIFICES AN AWFUL LOT OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. THE GOOD NEWS IS, HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, AMERICAN PRESIDENTS TEND TO BE MUCH MORE RESPONSIBLE ON THESE TYPE OF ISSUES THAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. SO WHERE DO WE END UP IF THIS ELECTION IS VERY CLOSE? IF THERE ARE RECOUNTS, IF THE LIKES OF DONALD TRUMP DON'T ACCEPT THE RESULTS, THIS COULD END UP BEING PRETTY UGLY FOR AMERICA, COULDN'T IT? IT COULD BE A VERY VERY DEVASTATING IMPACT, NOT JUST ON OUR POLITICS BUT ON OUR CULTURE. SUPPOSE IF THE ELECTION IS DECIDED AND IS NOT CONTESTED BUT IS STILL A RELATIVELY NARROW MARGIN OF VICTORY, THIS TO ME IS SECRETARY CLINTON'S GREATEST CONCERN AT THIS POINT. SHE NOT ONLY NEEDS TO WIN; SHE NEEDS TO WIN BY A SIGNIFICANT MARGIN BECAUSE IF SHE JUST EKES THIS OUT, THEN SHE ALMOST CERTAINLY INHERITS A VERY VERY DIVIDED COUNTRY AND A REPUBLICAN CONGRESS ABSOLUTELY DETERMINED TO STOP HER EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. OUR PRESIDENTS WHO WIN BY LARGER MARGINS ` RONALD REAGAN, LYNDON JOHNSON ` THEY GET A MANDATE, AND THEY GET ALMOST A PERMISSION SLIP FROM CONGRESS TO PURSUE A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE AGENDA. WHEN A PRESIDENT WINS BY A NARROW MARGIN, THEY DON'T GET THAT LUXURY. AND SO FOR CLINTON TO BE A SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT, CERTAINLY SHE NEEDS TO WIN, BUT IN HER BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME, IT CAN'T BE THAT CLOSE A RACE EITHER. THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN AMERICA ARE CHANGING AT THE MOMENT. WE'VE SEEN A BIG FOCUS ON THE LATINO VOTE. HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THAT? NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, AND ALSO IT'S WORTH NOTING THE ASIAN-AMERICAN IMMIGRANT POPULATION IS NOW GROWING IN THIS COUNTRY AT A FASTER RATE THAN LATINO IMMIGRANT POPULATION. AS THESE IMMIGRATION PATTERNS SPREAD FROM STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA AND TEXAS AND FLORIDA THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, IT REALLY CREATES AN IMMENSE CHALLENGE FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, AS EVEN THOUGH MANY REPUBLICAN LEADERS CORRECTLY POINT OUT THAT NEWLY ARRIVED IMMIGRANTS TEND TO BE SOMEWHAT CONSERVATIVE, AS LONG AS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY REMAINS SO STRIDENT ON THE ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION, IT BECOMES MUCH MUCH MORE LIKELY THAT AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF IMMIGRANTS SIMPLY DISMISSES THEM AS AN OPTION. SO TO FINISH WITH A PREDICTION ` DO YOU THINK HILLARY CLINTON WILL WIN THIS ELECTION? IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE A SITUATION UNDER WHICH CLINTON LOSES THIS RACE. I TELL MY STUDENTS THAT WE ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED TO HAVE A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION EVERY FOUR YEARS, BUT THERE'S NO CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE'LL BE INSPIRED AND MOTIVATED BY OUR CANDIDATES EVERY FOUR YEARS AND THAT SOMETIMES IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO PERSEVERE IN BETWEEN THE PERIODS OF INSPIRATION. VERY VERY SMART PEOPLE, MUCH SMARTER THAN ME, WOULD ARGUE THAT THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN THREE TRULY GREAT PRESIDENTS IN AMERICAN HISTORY ` GEORGE WASHINGTON, ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT. BY HISTORICAL COINCIDENCE, THERE ARE ABOUT 80 OR 90 YEARS IN BETWEEN GEORGE WASHINGTON AND ABRAHAM LINCOLN; THERE WERE ABOUT 80 OR 90 YEARS BETWEEN ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT. I LIKE TO THINK WE'RE DUE. THERE'S MUCH MORE TO COME, INCLUDING 'LATINOS WITH TRUMP' ` WHY HIS ANTI-IMMIGRATION POLICIES WORK FOR THIS MEXICAN-BORN SUPPORTER. DOESN'T MATTER RELIGION, DOESN'T ETHNICITY, DOESN'T MATTER SEXUAL ORIENTATION. YOU KNOW, WHAT EVER COUNTRY THEY COME FROM, THEY JUST NEED TO BE VETTED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS COUNTRY IS SAFE. THIS IS A MESSAGE FOR ANY DEMOCRATIC VOTER WHO HAVE ALREADY CAST THEIR BALLOTS FOR HILLARY CLINTON AND WHO ARE HAVING A BAD CASE OF BUYER'S REMORSE, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE. WISCONSIN IS ONE OF SEVERAL STATES WHERE YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR EARLY BALLOT, IF YOU THINK YOU'VE MADE A MISTAKE. DONALD TRUMP, MAKING HIS PITCH TO DEMOCRATS IN STATES WHERE EARLY VOTERS CAN CHANGE THEIR VOTE. YES, THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF STATES WHERE IT IS LEGAL TO CHANGE YOUR BALLOT BEFORE ELECTION DAY. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE WHITE WORKING-CLASS VOTERS WHO ARE BACKING TRUMP, MANY LIVING IN RUST-BELT STATES WHERE THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY IS YET TO BE SEEN. CORIN DANN MET A FEW MORE TRUMP VOTERS ON HIS VISIT TO CALIFORNIA. FIRST, REVEREND JESSE LEE PETERSON, A RADIO HOST AND FOX NEWS COMMENTATOR, A BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST AND TRUMP SUPPORTER. OK, FOLKS, WELCOME BACK. I'M JESSE LEE PETERSON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH ME. SO HOW DID DONALD TRUMP'S POLICIES APPEAL TO YOU? IS IT THINGS LIKE IMMIGRATION? I REALLY LIKE EVERYTHING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. I LIKE THE FACT THAT HE'S INDEPENDENT, HE'S NOT POLITICALLY CORRECTED. YOU KNOW, HE CAN SPEAK THE TRUTH WITHOUT FEAR. I LIKE THE FACT HE'S A GOOD FATHER AND A FAMILY MAN, BUT I LOVE THE FACT THAT HE'S GOING TO PUT A BIG, BEAUTIFUL WALL AROUND THE BORDERS TO STOP THE FLOW, AND THEN HE'S GOING TO START CLEANING UP THE MESS, DEPORTING THE CRIMINALS AND OTHER ILLEGALS WHO ARE HERE AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE HERE. WHAT'S YOUR VIEW ON THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN LEVELLED AT DONALD TRUMP, PARTICULARLY AROUND THINGS LIKE SEXUAL MISCONDUCT? WELL, THEY'RE JUST ALLEGATIONS, AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO REALISE IS THE DEMOCRATS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO STAND ON. AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS, WHENEVER A REPUBLICAN MALE SUCCEEDS, LIKE HE'S GOING TO BEAT THEM OUT, THEY COME UP WITH THIS FALSE ALLEGATION OF RACISM, THE SEXISM. THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS IT'S NOT WORKING. BUT NONE OF THAT HAS SHAKEN YOUR FAITH IN HIM? YOU THINK HE IS A GOOD MAN? NO, I'M NOT MOVED BY THAT AT ALL, AND DONALD TRUMP APOLOGISED FOR THAT ` I FORGAVE HIM ` AND MOVING ON WITH HIS CAMPAIGN. WE HAVE TO HAVE DONALD TRUMP WIN THIS ELECTION, NOT HILLARY CLINTON. YOU ARE CONCERNED, ARE YOU, THAT IF CLINTON WINS THIS ELECTION THAT WILL BE DISASTROUS FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE? ABSOLUTELY. HILLARY CLINTON IS A WICKED WOMAN. SHE IS A FRAUD. SHE IS A DISHONEST LIAR. AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, ALONG WITH THE CLINTONS, HAVE USED THE BLACK COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 60 YEARS. THEY KEEP THEM ON THE PLANTATION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY JUST TO GET THEIR VOTES. AND SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GIVE THEM FREE STUFF, YOU KNOW, 'HERE'S WELFARE. HERE'S AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.' AND WHENEVER IT'S ELECTION TIME, THEY GO INTO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND THEY PREACH THIS FALSE ILLUSION OF RACISM. THEY TELL BLACK PEOPLE THAT, 'THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO HOLD YOU BACK. 'VOTE FOR ME, AND I'LL SET YOU FREE.' AND SO OVER THE YEARS, THE BLACKS HAVE JUST VOTED WITHOUT THINKING. AND SO HILLARY'S DOING THE SAME THING NOW, ALONG WITH BARACK OBAMA, WHO, BY THE WAY, HAS BEEN AND IS THE WORST PRESIDENT THAT THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER EXPERIENCED. DO NOT HANG UP. I'LL COME BACK TO YOU. BACK IN A MOMENT, FOLKS. WHAT HAPPENS IF HILLARY CLINTON DOES WIN? WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT RESULT OR DO YOU FIGHT IT? WHAT DO YOU DO? WELL, WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO ACCEPT IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO UNITE. WE'RE GOING TO REORGANISE. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE MISTAKES WE'VE MADE IN THIS PARTICULAR CAMPAIGN, AND THEN IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, GOD FORBID IF SHE SHOULD WIN, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE HER OUT OF THERE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP. THIS IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. EVERYBODY AND THEIR MAMA TRYING TO COME HERE, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE UP THE FIGHT IF SHE SHOULD WIN. IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE US STRONGER. AND YOU THINK TRUMP CAN WIN? WITHOUT A DOUBT. THE REVEREND JESSE LEE PETERSON TALKING TO CORIN DANN THERE. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH PREDICTIONS OF A HIGH TURN-OUT OF LATINO VOTERS WERE CORRECT, WITH REPORTS OF A HIGH PROPORTION OF LATINOS IN KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES PART OF A GROUP OF 33 MILLION AMERICANS WHO HAVE ALREADY VOTED. THIS TURNOUT COULD MEAN BAD NEWS FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, BUT IT'S NOT TRUE THAT ALL LATINOS ARE OPPOSING HIM. DR ESTELLA SNEIDER, A MEXICAN-BORN TELEVISION PERSONALITY, SEX THERAPIST AND AUTHOR, IS A TRUMP SUPPORTER. CORIN DANN ASKED HER WHY. WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE UNUSUAL, GIVEN THAT... IF YOU WOULD FEEL THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT HE SAID. BUT MR TRUMP DEFINITELY IS NOT A RACIST, AND HE DOESN'T HATE LATINOS; HE DOESN'T MUSLIMS; HE DOESN'T HATE ANYBODY. HE'S THE MOST CARING, WONDERFUL PERSON. YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WALL. YES, MEXICO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT. YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HUGE DOOR FOR ALL IMMIGRANTS TO COME VETTED. IT'S VERY VERY IMPORTANT. ALL IMMIGRANTS ` DOESN'T MATTER RELIGION, DOESN'T MATTER ETHNICITY, DOESN'T MATTER SEXUAL ORIENTATION ` YOU KNOW, WHATEVER COUNTRY THEY COME FROM, THEY JUST NEED TO BE VETTED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS COUNTRY'S SAFE. SHOULD NZERS BE WORRIED AT ALL ABOUT THIS ELECTION, WHETHER DONALD TRUMP WINS OR HILLARY CLINTON? ABSOLUTELY NOT. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO TELL THE NZERS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FOR THANKING ME TO HAVE ME IN THEIR TELEVISIONS, AND I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO ALL OF THEM. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO BE WORRIED ABOUT. DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO BE THE BEST PRESIDENT, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. HE'S THE BEST NEGOTIATOR. SO IF ANYTHING, HE'S GOING TO BE THE ONE WHO IS GOING TO NEGOTIATE GOOD DEALS. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON. SHE ALREADY ORDER A NO-FLY ZONE IN MONTANA. WHAT IS THAT? SHE'S PROVOKING THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT, BLAMING RUSSIA AND ALL OF THAT. EVEN JILL STEIN, THE CANDIDATE, SHE SAYS THAT SHE WOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON BEING THE PRESIDENT. THERE IS A DANGER OF A WAR WITH HILLARY CLINTON. NOT DEFINITELY WITH MR DONALD TRUMP. DO YOU WORRY ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S TEMPERAMENT? THERE HAS BEEN THE LOCKER ROOM TALK, ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT HAVE BEEN MADE AGAINST HIM. DO YOU WORRY ABOUT HIS CHARACTER? ABSOLUTELY NOT. FIRST OF ALL, THE ALLEGATIONS, I THINK, IS FALSE. SECOND OF ALL, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, YOU KNOW, THE LOCKER ROOM TALK, I WANT TO ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE, EVEN ALL OF YOU ` YOU ` IF YOU HAVE EVER HAD THE LOCKER ROOM TALK. MOST MEN HAVE THAT TYPE OF TALK WHEN THEY'RE BY THEMSELVES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND MOST WOMEN AS WELL. AND THE ISSUE IS THAT MR TRUMP SAID WHEN YOU'RE A CELEBRITY, WOMEN LET YOU ` L-E-T YOU ` DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH THEM. 'LET' IMPLIES PERMISSION. HE DIDN'T SAY, 'ONCE YOU'RE A CELEBRITY, YOU CAN DO TO WOMEN WHATEVER YOU WANT.' HE SAID, 'WOMEN LET YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT TO THEM.' SO IF A WOMAN LETS YOU, I WOULD BLAME THE WOMAN. THEY'RE LETTING AND NOT SETTING THE LIMITS, BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH WOMEN THAT THEY JUST WANT THEIR 15 MINUTES OF FAME OR THEY WANT TO MARRY A BILLIONAIRE. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT LOOK AT AMERICA AND SAY THEY'RE ABOUT TO ELECT A REALITY TV SHOW AS PRESIDENT? HE HAS DONE 500 BUSINESSES. HE'S A VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL MAN. BUT HE CALLS HIMSELF A BLUE-COLLAR BILLIONAIRE, BECAUSE HE GREW UP WITH THE PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHY HE'S THERE FOR THE PEOPLE. IT'S ABOUT BEING HUMBLE, AND THAT'S THE LEGACY THAT WE WANT TO PASS ON TO OUR CHILDREN, AND THAT'S THE LEGACY THAT I BELIEVE MR TRUMP WANTS TO PASS ON IN HISTORY ` BEING THE PRESIDENT WHO'S GOING TO BASICALLY BRING BACK AMERICA TO BEING AMERICA FIRST AND MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. Clearly Donald Trump is able to garner support from across the community/ this rally behind me is being driven by American Chinese for Trump and Pakistanis. There are reports in a surge of voting. That could be a big factor for Hillary Clinton. In Nevada there is a strong percentage of Hispanic vote. The issue is how divided this country is not just economicaly, but on cultural issues as well. It will be who can bring those two sides together. AFTER THE BREAK ` TOP REPUBLICAN ADVISOR ROBERT O'BRIEN TELLS US WHAT A TRUMP PRESIDENCY WOULD BE LIKE. MIGHT HE POTENTIALLY ASK MORE OF NZ? LOOK, I THINK HE IS GOING TO ASK THAT OF ALL THE ALLIES. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE NEGATIVE, DARK, DIVISIVE, DANGEROUS VISION AND BEHAVIOUR OF PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP. HILLARY CLINTON IN FLORIDA THIS WEEK ` A SWING STATE THAT COULD BE A DECIDER IN HER BATTLE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP TO TAKE THE WHITE HOUSE ` AND THE POLLS SHOW IT'S LOOKING VERY CLOSE. OUR NEXT INTERVIEW, ROBERT O'BRIEN, IS REPUBLICAN PARTY ESTABLISHMENT. HE WAS FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR TO REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, TED CRUZ AND MITT ROMNEY. UNDER GEORGE W BUSH, HE WAS THE US REPRESENTATIVE TO THE UN. CORIN ASKED HIM HOW DONALD TRUMP HAS MANAGED TO DO SO WELL? I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS. AMERICA HAS BEEN LEADING FROM BEHIND, AND THAT'S A DESCRIPTION OF OUR FOREIGN POLICY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE ITSELF. THAT'S NOT A DESCRIPTION THAT OPPONENTS HAVE PUT ON PRESIDENT OBAMA'S POLICY, AND WE'VE SEEN JUST A SERIES OF FOREIGN POLICY FAILURES AND WE'VE SEEN A VERY DANGEROUS WORLD DEVELOP. WE'VE SEEN THE RUSSIANS GO INTO CRIMEA. WE SEE ISIS WITH A CALIPHATE THE SIZE OF ENGLAND IN THE MIDDLE EAST. WE SEE A GENOCIDE TAKING PLACE IN SYRIA. WE SEE THE IRANIANS NOW, WITH MICHEL AOUN AS THE NEW PRESIDENT OF LEBANON, REALLY HAVING AN ARCHIPELAGO OF INFLUENCE ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST. WE SEE THE CHINESE BUILDING A GREAT WALL OF SAND IN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA, AN AREA OF THE PACIFIC WHERE $5 TRILLION WORTH OF WORLD TRADE PASSES THROUGH. AND I THINK AMERICANS ARE STARTING TO RECOIL FROM THIS LEAD FROM BEHIND LACK OF AMERICAN LEADERSHIP, AND DONALD TRUMP HAS COME OUT WITH A PROMISE TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. HE'S PROMISED TO REBUILD THE MILITARY, WHICH HAS SUFFERED UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. SO I THINK THAT'S BEEN PART OF IT. I THINK, AGAIN, PART OF THAT IS HE'S TAPPED INTO ANGER FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LEFT BEHIND IN GLOBALISATION, ESPECIALLY IN THE HEARTLAND ` THE INDUSTRIAL HEARTLAND OF AMERICA. AND, LOOK, LET'S FACE IT, HILLARY CLINTON'S HERSELF A VERY FLAWED CANDIDATE. I MEAN, WE'VE NEVER SEEN A DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE WITH HIGHER NEGATIVES AS THE PARTY NOMINEE AS HILLARY CLINTON HAS. AND WITH THE EMAIL SCANDALS AND THE KIND OF PAY-FOR-PLAY ALLEGATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, HER SETTING UP THE PRIVATE SERVER, HER AIDES ACTING AS IF THE RULES DON'T APPLY TO THEM BUT THEY APPLY IT TO EVERYBODY ELSE IN AMERICA, I THINK ALL OF THOSE FACTORS HAVE ALLOWED DONALD TRUMP, WHO HIMSELF HAS VERY HIGH NEGATIVES, TO STAY COMPETITIVE IN THIS RACE. AS A FOREIGN POLICY EXPERT, DO YOU WORRY ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S TEMPERAMENT, HIS ABILITY TO CARRY OUT THE ROLE OF PRESIDENT? IT'S POLITICS, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT THE CLINTON FOLKS PROBABLY POLLED WELL AND THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THAT AS AN AREA OF CONCERN FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP. I DON'T THINK DONALD TRUMP, IF HE'S PRESIDENT, IS GOING TO HAVE A QUICK FINGER WITH THE NUCLEAR BUTTON, SO TO SPEAK, OR TO GET US INVOLVED IN WARS. I THINK THAT WHAT HE'S TALKED ABOUT DOING IS A MAINSTREAM IDEA IN AMERICA, AND IT'S SOMETHING CALLED PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH ` THAT WAS RONALD REAGAN'S DEFENCE STRATEGY. HE'S CALLED FOR REBUILDING THE MILITARY, WHICH HAS BEEN CUT DRAMATICALLY UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. SO I THINK THAT HE'S GOT A POLICY AND PLATFORM THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE MAINSTREAM, AND IT IS SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT THAN HILLARY CLINTON, SO I THINK HE'S DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB ON FOREIGN POLICY AND ESPECIALLY ON DEFENCE POLICY. IT MAY BE ONE OF THE STRONGEST AREAS OF HIS CAMPAIGN. SHOULD NZERS BE WORRIED ABOUT A DONALD TRUMP PRESIDENCY? NO. LISTEN, THE LONG-STANDING ALLIANCE, AND PUTTING ASIDE THE ANZUS ISSUE AND SOME OF THE NUCLEAR ISSUES, BETWEEN THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE PEOPLE OF NZ, IT'S LONG AND IT'S A SOLID RELATIONSHIP. I'VE BEEN IN AFGHANISTAN IN PRIOR GOVERNMENT WORK. I'VE SEEN VERY BRAVE KIWI SOLDIERS THERE FIGHTING SIDE BY SIDE AND TRAINING SIDE BY SIDE WITH AMERICAN SOLDIERS. I'VE BEEN TO TIMOR AND SEEN NZ POLICE OFFICERS THERE WORKING WITH AUSTRALIANS AND AMERICANS, TRAINING THE TIMORESE HUMANITARIAN RELIEF. I MEAN, THESE ARE VERY VERY STRONG TIES THAT WE HAVE WITH NZ. NO PRESIDENT AND I DON'T THINK ANY PRIME MINISTER IN NZ IS GOING TO CHANGE THE BONDS IN THE ANGLOSPHERE. AND I THINK IF WE DO HAVE A PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND HE'S BRIEFED ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ALLIANCE AND WHAT NZ DOES FOR US AND FOR US COLLECTIVELY IN ANTARCTICA, IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC WITH HUMANITARIAN AND DISASTER RELIEF IN OCEANIA, HE'S GOING TO UNDERSTAND AND BE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE ROLE THAT NZ PLAYS AND THE FRIENDSHIP THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS WITH NZ. SO I DON'T SEE A MAJOR CHANGE IN POLICY. MIGHT HE POTENTIALLY ASK MORE OF NZ? I MEAN, WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE FIGHT AGAINST ISIS. WE ARE TRAINING TROOPS, BUT WE'RE NOT ON THE FRONT LINES. IS IT CONCEIVABLE THAT GIVEN HIS STATEMENTS ABOUT OTHER ALLIES STUMPING UP WITH MORE MONEY, ET CETERA, THAT HE MIGHT SAY TO NZ, 'WE NEED YOU GUYS TO DO A BIT MORE'? LOOK, I THINK HE'S GOING TO ASK THAT OF ALL THE ALLIES. AMERICA HAS BORNE A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE BURDEN IN THE WAR ON TERROR AND DURING THE COLD WAR YEARS A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE BURDEN OF STANDING UP TO THE SOVIETS, AS THE RUSSIANS WERE CALLED AT THAT TIME. BUT I THINK NZ UNDERSTANDS THAT IT HAS AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY, AND WE'VE SEEN WITH THIS RECENT BUDGET SURPLUS THAT PRIME MINISTER KEY HAS DEVELOPED, I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT BUYING ONE OR TWO NEW WARSHIPS. I THINK YOU'RE SEEING IN NZ ITSELF A FEELING THAT NZ NEEDS TO STEP UP AND PLAY A ROLE ON THE DEFENCE FRONT AND ON THE FOREIGN POLICY FRONT THAT'S COMMENSURATE WITH THE INFLUENCE IT HAS AT THE UN AND IT'S COMMENSURATE WITH THE INFLUENCE IT HAS WITH HUMANITARIAN AND HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS. NZ PUNCHES ABOVE ITS WEIGHT. THE ONE PLACE IT HASN'T BEEN PUNCHING ABOVE ITS WEIGHT IS ON THE DEFENCE SIDE OF THINGS, BUT I THINK NZERS ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY CAN STEP IT UP SOME. HOW MUCH CAN PRESIDENTS ACTUALLY DO AND HOW MUCH WILL DONALD TRUMP NEED TO DO IF HE IS ELECTED, AND WHICH BITS CAN HE GET AWAY WITH NOT DOING, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, HE'S GOT TO BALANCE THAT, DOESN'T HE? HE DOES, AND, LOOK, I THINK ONE THING THAT HE'S GOING TO BE COMMITTED TO IS REFORMING THE IMMIGRATION PROCESS IN AMERICA, ALTHOUGH IT IMPACTS OUR INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS. IT CERTAINLY IMPACTS OUR RELATIONS WITH MEXICO AND WITH COUNTRIES IN CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA. I THINK THAT'S AN AREA WHERE HE'LL HAVE FLEXIBILITY AND WHERE HE'LL HAVE SOME SORT OF MANDATE FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ALLIANCES IN EUROPE AND IN THE ASIA-PACIFIC REGION, I THINK HE'S GOING TO SIT DOWN AND LISTEN TO THE GENERALS. SO IS THERE A RISK WITH EITHER A DONALD TRUMP PRESIDENCY OR PRESIDENT CLINTON THAT THE US WOULD LOSE INFLUENCE IN THE ASIA-PACIFIC REGION IF IT DOESN'T DO THE TPP? I THINK THAT'S A REAL CONCERN, CORIN, AND I'M IN FAVOUR OF THE TPP. AND SO I KNOW IT'S NOT POPULAR EITHER WITH HILLARY CLINTON RIGHT NOW OR WITH DONALD TRUMP, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE IN THE PACIFIC, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A LEADER IN THE PACIFIC, IF WE'RE GOING TO OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE TO A RISING AND DOMINANT CHINA IN THE REGION, WE HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH OUR ALLIES, NOT JUST ON THE DIPLOMATIC FRONT AND NOT JUST ON THE MILITARY FRONT, BUT WE HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH THEM IN TRADE AND TRY AND BIND OUR ECONOMIES CLOSER TOGETHER TO OFFER FOLKS AN ALTERNATIVE, A RULE-OF-LAW-BASED ALTERNATIVE TO A CHINESE MERCANTILIST TYPE TRADE SYSTEM. SO JUST LOOKING AT THE RACE, DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK HE CAN WIN? LOOK, I THINK HE CAN WIN. CERTAINLY THE REVELATIONS ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON'S AIDES, HUMA ABEDIN'S SERVER AND HER PERSONAL SERVER AND HER EMAILS ON HER DISGRACED HUSBAND'S LAPTOP HAVE HURT SECRETARY CLINTON IN THE LAST WEEK OF THE CAMPAIGN. IT'S MADE THE CAMPAIGN MORE COMPETITIVE. I THINK HILLARY CLINTON BENEFITS FROM THE EARLY VOTING, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE ON ELECTION DAY. DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO HAVE TO FLIP A BLUE STATE. EVEN IF HE WINS FLORIDA, OHIO, NORTH CAROLINA ` IT LOOKS LIKE HE HAS A GOOD SHOT TO DO THAT ` HE'S STILL GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A NEW HAMPSHIRE, A WISCONSIN, A MICHIGAN, A MINNESOTA, COLORADO, NEVADA TO FLIP FROM THE DEMOCRATS TO THE REPUBLICANS AND WIN. RIGHT NOW, THE POLLS IN THOSE STATES MAKE THAT LOOK LIKE A LONG SHOT, BUT IF MOMENTUM CONTINUED TO MOVE TO MR TRUMP THE WAY IT HAS OVER THE PAST WEEK OR TWO, IT'S NOT INCONCEIVABLE THAT HE COULD WIN THIS ELECTION. It is not inconceivable polls have it at 65% but Hillary Clinton won. That has come back from 85% in a week or so. And that is why New Zealand needs to think about what a Trump presidency would mean a lot of the things he wants to do would be checked by Congress, but it would change the tone of the relationship between the US and China and that would make life difficult the New Zealand as it tries to balance its relationship between the two. Heaps are at stake for everyone. It is going to be a fascinating couple of days to come. THE PANEL'S WAITING TO HAVE THEIR SAY. WE'LL GET THEIR ANALYSIS AFTER THE BREAK. TODAY IN AMERICA THE SINGLE MOST SIGNIFICANT INDICATOR OF PARTISAN VOTING BEHAVIOUR IS NO LONGER INCOME. RATHER IT'S THE FREQUENCY WITH WHICH AN INDIVIDUAL ATTENDS RELIGIOUS SERVICES. Time for our panel. Raymond, on the surface Donald Trump's lifestyle as complete lack of political inexperience should have made him a nonstarter. How did we get here? We have two flawed candidates. If the Democrats had a stronger candidate, it may have been different. But he is a product of reality television. Is able to exploit weakness in a fundamental way. He is able to highlight divisions within society. He has run a negative and destructive campaign. The other day, the New York Times reported that 82% of Americans have been disgusted by the way the election has been run, so here's been able to exploit a whole variety of issues an American politics right now fundamentally about the divided society. Commentators have said things had changed. It is no longer about leaving the farm and going to the city how has Donald Trump exploited that? His campaign is built on fear. Economic and migrant fear and the change that they culturally bring. The fear is not new and has been sitting under the Republican on it for a long time. But here's the first to exploit it beyond the Republican politeness and has gone for the jugular. If you think about McCain or Romney, they could have gone after such things as Rev Wright. But they kept the normal politeness going between the two and kept the rules of the presidential campaign. But Donald Trump has ignored that and exploited the terror in American society. Yet seen that in the Congress race. And now we're seeing a tad predictable level. We have seen a restraint Trump this week. He has taken a long time to show it, what is your take? He is preparing to be president. There was an article in the New Yorker, where a journalist talked to the transition team of trumps. And there is a lot of strong and experienced people. He is not going to come out despite the rhetoric, with something that is a mad machine. The American system wouldn't allow that. The speech he gave on Tuesday was a very well crafted speech and something he should have done three or four weeks ago. He raised the issue of the lewd recordings and talk about woman and groping which actually dropped his poll quite significantly and he has taken a while to come back and only with the opportunity of Hillary Clinton coming under pressure with the FBI director announcing an investigation is on because they found the new cache, and now allowed the ratings the narrow. But he doesn't have enough time to actually get there, but of this ran for another couple of weeks who would know. We have got an inkling of what might possibly be and in the Hillary e-mails. Do you think this has hurt her so much? There has been a prediction that it would be a close race if you look at Obama and Romney, they were a dead heat three days out. Hillary Clinton has had to deal with the FBI investigation and the Obama care premium rises. So the Trump campaign has been able to attack along that. It is the combination of the expectation of the race come together and a couple of variance that have disturbed the campaign though it seemed far-fetched the many people, Trump has done his best to attach Bill Clinton's controversy and that seems to have worked. It digs up all the past fears of the Clintons. It takes it back to the presidency of Bill Clinton. And then someways it is answer the that Hillary takes the heat. After the allegations of Monica Lewinsky. But there has been a lot of talk about her being unpopular, but she has been around in the public eye for 25 years. Voter fatigue must be at play. She has proven their once she gets into a role, she becomes more popular. Both and Senate and Secretary of State. But most political characters only hang around for 10 to 15 years. But she has been around since 1992, and people see her warts and all. Does sexism come into this at all? Polls are showing differences and preferences between men and woman and this has given Hillary a lift with female voters. But she doesn't come into the presidency with untarnished hands. And if she does become president, there will be ongoing investigations about her e-mails and privileges. There is also the issues that she faces of the Clinton foundation. An announcement on the last day or so that Cutter gave a large donation that was undeclared there should have been strong parameters to protect her when she was Secretary of State. And in America the speculation is that Obama might have to pardon her, so she can get a run at presidency. WE'LL STAY WITH THE PANEL AFTER THE BREAK. WHAT WOULD A PRESIDENT TRUMP OR CLINTON MEAN FOR US? WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT. DO YOU LIKE`? DO YOU LIKE THE CANDIDATES? UH, WHO DOES? (LAUGHS) DONALD DOES SCARE ME A LITTLE BIT. STUDENTS ON CAMPUS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. Fran, let's say Donald Trump ones, wins how different will he be from the rhetoric that we have heard. I think he will make good on some things. It is very interesting. A lot of promises are made on the campaign trail, but one study showed that 73% of the promises are enacted on. So you can expect a certain amount of things to happen. He will start with the Washington swamp. Making sure that people in the system can't lobby, Obama dear presidential orders and a lot of what Obama has done is with executive orders and he can revoke that. What about building the wall and water boarding? He is outlandish. And the question is iif he has the temperament. He can say these things in a press conference, but can he actually control himself and recognise that he is part of a machine of government. And that will be on voters mind. It is a combination of experience and to permanent. Temperament* here's a political novice. Compare him to Reagan, but Reagan had political experience. Here is an extremely visceral politician full of emotion. He doesn't listen to advice. And likes to do things his own way. And whether temperamentally, and lack of experience and that will hurt him in foreign policy. And there will be high levels of protectionism and moral superiority with traditional allies. I am painting a gloomy picture, but there are fundamental weaknesses in this man that a presidency will expose. Is the future that gloomy if he does given? Get in* I am not quite so negative and I think that other parts in states will act under their own self-interest. He'll come under enormous pressure ffrom business America. It is very hard to unstitch trade agreements. There won't be as easy to navigate the wall and he has already moved back from Mexico paying for it. And there will be a tightening. He is moving away from 'all'. It will be cataclysmic. Here's undersea to the malaise in America, but it is therefore a reason. We're seeing reflections of this in Europe and even in New Zealand, with an anti-immigration stance. I think we should reflect on ourselves. And how will New Zealand be impacted? We are a small dinghy and a big ocean, and the choppier the waters in terms of trade in defence and climate change, we will be exposed. I want to touch on that later, but we saw in the UK with Brexit and a similar feeling in the US. Can we ever go down that road in New Zealand or added to many safeguards? There is no suggestion that this is the case. We're waiting for something like this to happen, but the majority of New Zealanders are happy with migration levels there is no strong opposition to establishment and a disconnect with Wellington as there is with America in Washington. There are fundamental differences an MMP helps prevent that. There is always the possibility of some contagion, but I don't think there is likely to happen. Donald Trump has made it clear that they don't want to leave from behind lead* he wants America to be the world police again. And there was coming through in the interview before. And we will be expected to pay a bit more. Our defence budget is relatively small we increased at some years ago when Australia and US put pressure on us there has been pushed back. And we are looking in Asia-Pacific with Malaysia and Philippines getting closer to China. People are concerned what America's role will be and what an unstable America will look like. TPP will be off the page if Trump gets in? I think the TPP may be beyond the page Ahead of the inauguration. And there are already a lot of negotiations going on with biologics. Hillary supports free trade and private. Nick who will win? I think Clinton. She could win quite comfortably. The idea that it is close, is the media beating it up. Key states will be Pennsylvania if she wins Florida it will be over. Pretty much the same, but if he wins Florida he might have a chance. The Democrats are more experienced and able to generate more voters. People don't vote like they do here. I think Clinton will win. But after the election it will be a difficult country the Govan. It will be a difficult country that govern. WAKA HUIA IS NEXT. REMEMBER Q+A REPEATS TONIGHT AT 11.35PM. THANKS FOR WATCHING, AND THANKS FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS. THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS, AND THOSE WERE THE ANSWERS. THAT'S Q+A. SEE YOU NEXT SUNDAY MORNING AT 9. COPYRIGHT ABLE 2016.