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Q+A presents hard-hitting political news and commentary. Keep up to date with what is truly going on in New Zealand.

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  • Q+A
Date Broadcast
  • Sunday 7 May 2017
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  • 09 : 00
Finish Time
  • 10 : 00
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  • 60:00
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  • TVNZ 1
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  • Television New Zealand
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  • Q+A presents hard-hitting political news and commentary. Keep up to date with what is truly going on in New Zealand.
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  • Not Classified
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  • Chapman Archive
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  • Television
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  • English
Captioning Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
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  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
MORENA, GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO Q+A. I'M GREG BOYED. WINSTON PETERS RAMPED UP HIS ATTACK ON THE GOVERNMENT'S ECONOMIC PLAN THIS WEEK, SAYING HIGH IMMIGRATION IS MASKING AN ECONOMY IN TROUBLE. 'VOTE FOR NEW ZEALAND FIRST,' HE SAYS, BUT WHAT WOULD HE ACTUALLY DO IF HE GOT POWER, AND DOES HE WANT TO BE IN GOVERNMENT AT ALL? CORIN DANN IS WITH NEW ZEALAND FIRST LEADER WINSTON PETERS, OUR LEAD INTERVIEW THIS MORNING. AND LABOUR'S PARTY LIST FOR THE ELECTION HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED. AFTER SOME LAST MINUTE WRANGLING OVER RANKINGS, NEW CANDIDATES KIRI ALLAN AND WILLIE JACKSON ARE ON THE PROGRAMME THIS MORNING, ALONG WITH TAMAKI MAKAURAU MP PEENI HENARE. HOW WILL WILLIE GROW LABOUR'S VOTE? CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. COPYRIGHT ABLE 2017 AND WE'LL HAVE ANALYSIS FROM OUR PANEL ` POLITICAL SCIENTIST DR RAYMOND MILLER FROM AUCKLAND UNIVERSITY, MEREPEKA RAUKAWA-TAIT ` ROTORUA LAKES COUNCILLOR, AND CHAIR OF TE POU MATAKANA ` THE WHANAU ORA COMMISSIONING AGENCY FOR THE NORTH ISLAND. AND JOHN TAMIHERE ` CEO OF THE WAIPAREIRA TRUST AND FORMER LABOUR MP AND BROADCASTER. WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU ALL SHORTLY. FIRST HERE'S CORIN. THANKS, GREG. AND NEW ZEALAND FIRST LEADER WINSTON PETERS. GOOD MORNING. I will start with immigration. You talked about 10,000 as a target. What would be the fastest way to cut the net number at 70,000 down to 10? Apply the law that countless politicians say they are putting in place but never follow. Where are the English tests? We bought another 20,000 unskilled labourers last year. We should stop this argument as though there is a policy. A policy implies careful analysis and costs, the advantages and disadvantages. We have had none of that. We have had whole scale immigration. We are telling people you have to like it because there is no alternative. Where is yours? I didn't change the policy. People are looking to you as a critic. You ask the question and I am given a reasonable chance to answer. My policy is the low immigration and high skilled. I want to bring the best quality people at 10,000. I am against mass immigration. They bring in 100,000 in the UK. I am challenging all those components. There are economists and people in the right of the media. You can't say on any note that this is good. Some of your supporters say you are right that mass immigration has not helped New Zealand. But there are ways to do it, because the mechanics of it aren't that simple. They do not want to change from these high levels. We can't fill these low skilled jobs they say. These are people who think we are only bringing in high-skilled. There is massive nfrastructure that will take 15 to 20 years to build up. You bring in the best of skills that all the smart countries are doing, but you don't artificially build up consumption by way of mass immigration. Our population growth is on 2% at immigration alone. When you take out the 2% that you even up with the population that is coming in, now we are down way below the bottom half of the OECD in terms of growth. That's not what the National party is telling us. Do you cut the 43,000 people that are coming in? People have been trained here for skills and have been allowed to stay 1 in 5. They don't have any high-quality qualifications. It is a massive fraud in the thousands. To be honest it goes like this. Our economy trains a student from somewhere else, and we train them here. That is why in the next few months we will clear this up. Although students work for the 20 hours? We have thousands of New Zealand students that don't have a job and with debt. This is the human circumstance. You have thousands of New Zealanders who can't get a job and a high rent environment. They are competing with offshore students who are having much of the education paid for, not by their economy. By ours. How will you reduce the immigration number? We want 10,000 a year. I am not hearing details. If you pass an English language test, you will pass it. If you come in with the qualification you will prove it. If people come here and go to the regions, they will stay in the regions for five years. Countries handle this with the greatest of ease. It is also economically and socially good for you. He spoke this week about how immigration is about ethnicity. Why? You know what an immigrant is? An immigrant is someone living legally in a country that is not their birthplace. I thought it was about numbers and pressure on infrastructure. What does it matter what ethnicity they are? It is what they believe. Whether they will support our laws and respect our human rights, respect our traditions, and have an understanding of our indigenous culture. Whether they think women have a right to equality. Why does it matter what ethnic or race they are if they meet all the requirements? Many people from those countries don't have those qualities. They treat women like cattle. Why don't you name what the countries are? You know what the countries are. Saudi Arabia. We are over their past advising ourselves with a sheep deal. The last time I checked, Saudi Arabia didn't have many immigrants coming to New Zealand. You ask for an example. I gave it to you. You also criticise migrant journalists, economists from Thinkthank, questioning why they are in favour of mass immigration. If you are a migrant do you think you don't get to be involved in this debate? If you are going to write about the racism in New Zealand, you should mention that 'I'm an immigrant.' It is hardly likely that an immigrant from the far right is saying, 'I'm here and immigration is bad.' Matthew Hart is hardly a was in Peter's supporter, but he said they started. You said it was not a good thing for the New Zealand people. One and four New Zealanders are not born in New Zealand. Half a million New Zealanders are not born in New Zealand; they are migrants. Where this interview is going, and you are going to lose it, you are chipping away. We always believed and sound immigration, the emigration is good for the gaps and skills you don't have annual society, it should never be used for an excuse for failing to train and educate your own people. There are a number of people who agree with you. That mass immigration is causing problems. If you raise the issue of ethnicity and where economists are coming from, don't delegate your argument because their arguments implicates you are racist. People attacked me saying I am racist. You want them to attack you. There is a journalist not very far away from you that has attacked me for taking on the media. When I went to the meeting and held up his article, he is the one that attacked me. He says I am attacking the media. You went along to the speech and held up your newspaper columns. You are running a Trump line. Repetitiveness and nonsense does not hold up an argument. I held up an attack on me, an article by this writer. I'm just questioning whether this is something you want. if you are trying to create the rhetoric. Let's move on. I have a winning argument. Let's let the viewers be the judge of that. I am sick of people editing what I say. Let's go back to 2005 and Rotorua when you gave a famous speech. You were being harried by the media, about who you are going to go with and 2005. According to constitutional convention, the party that gains the most seats is the party that first tries to form a government. Can you give New Zealanders an insurance that's your view today? All I said was you expect that to happen and not only this country but every country. There is not a binding rule that says this is going to fail therefore we should look elsewhere. Is everything on the table? Everything should be on the table in the same way as a sporting arrangement or business. You need to consider everything before you make a decision. what if the polls are wrong... they are wrong. TV One produces poll after poll that is gibberish. You tend to do very well and campaigns. Maybe your polling method is wrong. I don't agree with that. Let's move on. If you are strong compared to a weak Labour, is there a case to say that the Prime Minister could come from the smaller of the two parties? I don't know what you are saying. In 1932, Forbes became PM. In the middle of the great depression, worldwide, it wasn't the easiest time to govern. He had an economic theory ` he so entrenched the country that they had 10% deflation. People in their thousands were in misery. It shouldn't be seen as something that is radical. Should the New Zealand public be open to that? I travel the country more than most. People asked me if I am going to do a Forbes. I thought I was going to talk about the most explosive economic policy this country needs. None of the chances I have had. Let's talk about that. Is there a reform of the Reserve Bank. Would you adopt the model used in Singapore? Yes I would. They are so much smarter than the experts in this country. They don't have an official cash rate. They set interest rates by the major trading partners. They run the currency for Singapore. We run our currency for the rest of the world. What would be a currency band for New Zealand? We should that be to drive the export growth that you talk about? People say our dollar is overvalued. If they say that, wife of 20 years have they just ignored it? There are consequences. (coughs) you can't set criteria independent of politicians and in saying where it would be. It is in tune. Thank you very much. LOTS TO TALK ABOUT WITH OUR PANEL THERE, BUT WE WANT YOUR THOUGHTS TOO. WE'RE ON TWITTER AT NZQANDA. YOU CAN EMAIL US AT Q+A AT TVNZ.CO.NZ OR TEXT YOUR THOUGHTS AND FIRST NAME TO 2211. KEEP THEM BRIEF. EACH TEXT COSTS 50 CENTS. STAY WITH US, WE'RE BACK AFTER THE BREAK. TIME FOR THE PANEL ` POLITICAL SCIENTIST DR RAYMOND MILLER FROM AUCKLAND UNIVERSITY, MEREPEKA RAUKAWA-TAIT ` ROTORUA LAKES COUNCILLOR AND CHAIR OF TE POU MATAKANA, THE WHANAU ORA COMMISSIONING AGENCY FOR THE NORTH ISLAND. AND JOHN TAMIHERE ` CEO OF THE WAIPAREIRA TRUST AND FORMER LABOUR MP AND BROADCASTER. Raymond, the political scientist referred to by one Winston Peters, who was not born in New Zealand but we are glad you are here. I am a Scot by birth. Did that message resonate with people? I think it will. When he talks about problems of housing and infrastructure, Some of the difficulties with large numbers of immigrants arriving, it will be something that resonates with people and metropolitan areas. When he gets talking about ethnicity, he is an dangerous ground. You lay yourself open to promoting a divisive discussion over who should and who should not be allowed to come to New Zealand. John, was that getting close to racist rhetoric? You are damned if you do or if you don't. If you start to restrain immigration, You start getting asked how do you classify them. The problem that you have is when you are constraining to the numbers that he wants, and a lot of Kiwis want that, tthere are unheralded numbers on immigration. He has a strong argument. If you come along people trying to constrain immigration, you open up ethnic issues and racism. It is difficult to pan wide when someone is chiselling you out. You are damned if you do or don't. The way the vote will split as if his message continues to resonate. What is your take Merepeka Raukawa-Tait? Immigration as a significant concern. It is not planned and hasn't been done well. Immigrants are being seen as the whipping boy for our issues. We should not shy away from the fact that it will get down to ethnicity and terms of people who we want here. You say the English test, the qualification and stay five years or more. There are also people who need to have alignment with our values and our way forward. Spend some time to get to know the people of New Zealand. There are some people who are coming here who may end up going to Australia, or stay within their own community with the New Zealand. He is right on the button when he says that there are some people we want and don't want. Is there a man who wants to be a government? It is hard to know with Winston. He benefits from not articulating what his plans are. He wants to be at the centre of power. Quite where he will be I am not sure. He stands a very good chance of becoming the kingmaker. He may sit outside of government. He would take a ministerial position perhaps. It depends on how well he does and the election. He could insist on becoming part of the coalition arrangement. He will do very well. There is no coalition of our Harawera and Dotcom now. All that nonsense is out of the way. This is a clear run at an election between the Labour Party struggling to get over 30 and a Green Party doing reasonably well. Then you have people who are in difficult circumstances. They look for a Winston Peters. 1978 since, he has never changed his tune. Is that the line he is taking? For some New Zealanders they believe it is as good as it gets in their situation, and he is saying it is not as good and we can't afford due to being packed up on the sidelines. We need people getting into jobs. He wants to make sure that jobs go to New Zealanders first, whether they are the high school jobs or the low skill level. He is making sure the New Zealand issues are getting addressed, and they haven't for many years. I think Winston will do well this year. Up to 2000 more workers will be needed for these service jobs. Winston Peters are appealing to a small business area. Ssmall businesses also need employment. its a problem, because you could hit tourism and building construction, tthe economy generally. I worry about this debate over immigration. We have labour promising to reduce by tens of thousands the number who come into New Zealand. We have Winston, whose policies are never that clear. We are only five months out from an election. Is the most likely able to work with? There is a protocol that if the people speak, you look to who has the most votes to form a government. How aligned are you also? If that alignment is not in, you have to look into putting together a Greens-Labour coalition. He will be a significant player. Him and anything to do with Greens will not wash well. The greens will go to the backbench and provide confidence and supply. There is as good as the greens will get out of the Winston-labour combo. Do you believe the door is still open with national? I have no doubt about that. They will want fourth term with a new leader. Iincluding what? On issues like immigration. What could he want that they would give him? He could certainly be Deputy Prime Minister and have a senior portfolio. It is conceivable depending on how well he does and the election. He could have a short stint as Prime Minister. That would be difficult to achieve with the National party and government. The problem with labour is the Greens, and he has shown in the past that he is opposed to any close arrangement that involves them. The Greens have nowhere else to go; they can't do a deal with national. If they can't do a deal with Winston, they are out in the cold. Anything could happen. Thank you all. AFTER THE BREAK, WE'LL MEET NEW LABOUR LIST CANDIDATES KIRI ALLAN AND WILLIE JACKSON, ALONG WITH PEENI HENARE, LABOUR'S MP FOR TAMAKI MAKAURAU. WILLIE IS ALSO LABOUR'S NEW MAORI CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR. WHAT WILL HE DO? CAN HE MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO LABOUR'S VOTE THIS ELECTION? LABOUR FINALISED ITS PARTY LIST THIS WEEK WITH A BUNCH OF FRESH FACES NOW WITH A CHANCE OF GETTING INTO PARLIAMENT AT THE NEXT ELECTION ` DEPENDING, OF COURSE, ON LABOUR'S FINAL RESULT. AT NUMBER 21, A NEW FACE FOR LABOUR BUT A FAMILIAR FACE IN POLITICS ` WILLIE JACKSON, WHO ONCE SERVED AS AN ALLIANCE MP. HE'S ALSO LABOUR'S NEW MAORI CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR. AT 20 ON THE LIST IS KIRI ALLAN, A LAWYER AND BUSINESS CONSULTANT FROM WHAKATANE. AND THEN PEENI HENARE, WHO'S NOT ON THE LIST, BUT WHO IS THE MP FOR TAMAKI MAKARAU. MORENA TO YOU ALL. Thank you for coming. Willie Jackson, what is your reaction on Winston Peters. Is that someone you could work within a cabinet one day Given his stance on immigration and those issues. Are you comfortable? No problem whatsoever. We have good relations with Winston, And the party and leader have spoken with, And he is someone respected by the public For his endurance. What about the criticism of his xenophobic. That has always been the criticism. The reality of what has been happening around the world Such as in England and America. People are sick of political correctness. Winston epitomises what the average man and woman is talking about. He has a lot of labour principles and values. You are new and coming through, Are you comfortable with Winston? He is the most eloquent speaker of the house, But I think one thing for me is on my mind And that of my generation Is that we don't want to walk on the cusp Of fair full language around People that live here. And I think that some of the lines that Winston was taking They concern me a little bit. Such as women in Saudi Arabia. In terms of working in a good government, I think the leadership of our party will be insistent on making sure and if Winston is performing well he will be part of the mix. How do you feel about the events over the last week With Willie Jackson coming on the list. You said he was sideswiped that he was the campaign Dir for the Maori candidates. Are you Atchley comfortable with him being in a party? I was taken out of context and that interview. He has had this role for a while. We had a meeting to discuss it. On the morning of the announcement was a surprise Because I thought it was given that we had already discussed Our strategy for this year's election. This is a guy you could have been facing. You are lining up the Maori party? I was talking with Gareth Morgan too. But we are close and resent the media trying to make out there's no support. They voted for me four weeks ago The takeover this position. As in the question about whether you're really labour? Why are you joining? I was born labour. But you went with the Maori party? My grandfather was a National MP. I worked for New Zealand first and I'm labour. So what comes first Is it representing Maori rights first Or the Labour Party? It is about our people. We are here because we are passionate about the situation our families and communities are in. And we are seeing a massive gap between people and our communities And many are struggling. And this happens every election year. The banter starts, But for each one sitting here and on the list We are there because we see a gap between the haves and have-nots, And we don't think that is okay. 300,000 kids living in poverty. But there are tensions. You have been involved with charter schools. Yet you are in a Labour Party that will abolish them. I have talked to the leadership about that. I'm about any school that will change what's happening. You can call them whatever. He understands where we are coming from. As long schools has qualified teachers. Chris is of the same mind as me. We want schools that turn the lives around. Call it whatever you want. As long as as it changes kids lives. Half of these kids parents are prisoners. We are not for profit. I am not criticising the results of the school. I am talking about the policy of labour. How would your school fit under that? They were change the name and concept, for the principle of turning kids lives around is something that Chris Hipkins believes. Call otwhatever you like. We have a government that slashingEverything. There has to be decisions between libraries and support staff. So if you're boiling down, The priorities of this government and its education portfolio And across that social services portfolios, The matrix is in working. So call them whatever you want. We know our kids aren't thriving. And that is why you are seeing` The charter school partnership works, Why wouldn't you do it? Because it gains in our team is focusing on what works. What you call it is on the issue. Were talking about the results of our kids, And right now they are thriving. As an MP and Caucus, Helen Clark was talking about the foreshore and seabed recently, Labourers looking like it will have a strong Maori Caucus. What is the feeling amongst labour Maori Mps About that issue a few years on. I am wondering whether Maori might not trust labour given the decision made To take away the legal right. We discussed this earlier and I march at the same time Against the decision by the government. And then I was on the campaign trail in 2014, It was very raw and emotional. Do you think it has changed? I think it has but it is important we still have voices Just to constantly remind them. It was only 10 years ago that happened. What are your thoughts on that as someone young? I thought it was an incredibly tough time in a party. Our party is 100 years old and we have done a lot of things right. But that wasn't one of them? And we have made errors as well. I look at our leadership now who have made statements Saying that we handled that issue wrong. And then I look at these guys coming into our parties, And I say these guys have been ardent advocates for our people For many years long before they became political, And do I think that is a cohort within labour Are committed to not make those issues again? And I say Im confidence our team. I wanted to be the Prime Minister. I told Andrew little at the start. And I want to advance link for our people. You don't need to be in opposition? We work our community and from people. We think what we get is peanuts. We don't get enough dollars and resources back to our communities. And it is nothing personal with the Maori party, do have to be a minister? It is about funding and resource and respecting our people. And in a Labour government` How comfortable are they comfortable that you are coming in When there are a number of Maori Mps. You are jumping the queue a little bit? And I will support them. And we have the battle in those seats. We are not talking about portfolios. We talk about resources and getting it to our people Especially in our urban area. And those discussions are for another day. We are not in government yet. And all the other competent people of our Caucus are trying to nail the governments on all the egregious things happening, But it doesn't matter who wears what after the election, Right now we are not in. In the real focus of our team is that we need that party vote up. We need a strong government to form, And where targeting around 30%. Do you need Willy's help? We absolutely need is help. He is an important part of the puzzle. We need the support of our community. Was there any truth about the speculation that you were asked to step aside? I said another interview, That is about adopting a different strategy each time. And every time we come and we always assess all options. And now we have excellent options. Was a yes you were asked? We considered everything. I will let people make up their minds about that. There was some criticism after the list announcement That you ran roughshod over the process And took away the spotlight from some talent. Are you disappointed how it was handled? I was disappointed by some of your mates that was running those lines. I was the Maori campaign Dir. I had to look at the implications of the announcement. There were no Maori in the top 15. And I have to honour those that came off the list for new people. But could you not see that cause damage? I am not interested in your deadlines. The Labour Party made the deadline. I am not a party officer. I have to look at the implications of the list when we have new people, And I had a talk to 3 with a leadership. I haven't said a negative thing about the list. There is great diverse city on the list. But I had an obligation to talk about the consequences and locations Of that lists that was going out there. Thank you for your time. CORIN TALKING TO WILLIE JACKSON, KIRI ALLAN AND PEENI HENARE. AND THAT'S A GOOD TIME TO MENTION THAT LABOUR LEADER ANDREW LITTLE WILL BE ON THE PROGRAMME NEXT WEEK. STAY WITH US, THE PANEL'S BACK AFTER THE BREAK. OUR PANEL NOW. JOHN, WE SHOULD POINT OUT FIRST UP ` YOU ARE A CLOSE FRIEND OF WILLIE'S. YOU WERE DOWN IN WELLINGTON THIS WEEK. What is the list story? He is not a mate. That is our kinfolk. You always back your kinfolk. There was no doubt that 23 is a top position to fight The Maori party in terms of campaign management slot. The list is symbolic. It is the first time Maori have been outside the top 15 Since 1996. But the only cohort of voters that labour can evidence-based Since 1943 Lost Eastern Maori as the Maori vote. You know how many brings in. You don't know that in other sector groups that makes up the Labour Party. But the difficulty as he is in a difficult position. And we have to be honest about that. You saw in the interview, You have a very capable and competent group of Maori. And the courageous step of those getting off the list and should have been rewarded with them going up But they will still be formidable. Raymond Miller Your thoughts on Little wanting Willie Jackson. He is a well-known Urban Maori. He is commercial and community interests And as a public profile. He has a lot to commend. In response to John, for decades All that labour was able to offer was foUr seats. They did not go beyond that. A normally ministerial positions that they could aspire to was Minister of Maori affairs. And now one third could be made up of Maori. There are three on the list likely to go on If labour goes up to the mid 30s. In addition to the six Maori seats, And these are very capable people. And I think it bodes well for the future of the Labour Party. How concerned with the Maori party be seeing the obvious move to getting a stronger voice by labour. It has been a long time coming for labour. And I'm sorry to tell you That Willie Jackson went over to labour, Because I have worked with and still work with him And he has been a staunch supporter of Maori. He knows the issues and has worked to make a difference. And within the Maori party that is the total focus. They don't get distracted by any thing else. He will always be his own man and speak out. You'll have to tackle some of the political colleagues, And he would have had that the had he supported the Maori party. I'll have no doubt he will get ins in September. Will he be a team member in the Labour Party? I think he will be. It's a risk and reward thing. He is outspoken and that is a risk, And he won't resist if he wants to have a crack. But there is reward and his sway. In the western Auckland suburbs And his ability to get Mari to the polls. We saw that with the list announcement. It was in all his fault. But it was a mess and took away the limelight From a strong list, so there is risk. What does Willie want out of this? He has unfinished business. With the alliance and labour was regretful. We are not getting traction and our space. As the first time policy has been agreed across all Maori, And we don't want to be turned over every administration. We need sustainability. How will you cope with Winston Peters? He wants to get rid of Whanuaora. He needs to know about it first. His colleagues have been through our systematics To rate the credibility and integrity of it. And we have done it across the political parties. And where lock it in and as an agreed policy framework. And you can't run a policy of credibility if you keep getting turned over. Our people will keep ending at the bottom. He is in there to keep the consistency of an investment track And the right things happen. Raymond, Willie Jackson has many issues Such is his work with JT and the urban authority. He is spinning many plates does he need to distance himself? If I was to give him adviceand he would take it, I would say yes. He is not the first member of Parliament to have a variety of interests, But he'll be expected to give his party 100% support And to be a team player. Particularly amongst members. He would be well advised to distance himself, Particularly from any policy areas that are in conflict With what Labour wants to do. We talked about charter schools. These issues have to be removed from the table. I don't agree. I think his wide variety of interests and forms and well In areas that he might be working on. He knows what doesn't doesn't work. Some people might see his interest is a conflict? He must focus on politics. But whether he keeps his hand on the teller and the till it can't happen. The charter school staff fascinates me. How can you marry that with labour's position Which is the union position and they hate charter schools. Certain things in the charter school work very well. So what I suspect will happen, And I don't have a crystal ball on this, As at the charter schools that are working very well will be transferred Do something like a special school's category. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Willie said that as part of the deal? I am not a liberty of stressing that. He is still sitting there, which is about wierd. Comments have come back and how will that sit with female Mps? That did come in for some discussion. But I think Willie has set his piece around that. And he has moved on and people need to look at Willie's work in total. And that has been significant for South Auckland and the communities in Auckland. And I tend to focus on that. One area might have clouded him, But I look at the totality of his work, And it has been positive. Can the Maori party survivor Willie Jackson. Because he is visible and has a voice and will be noticed. A definitely well and it will be interesting to see the next round of polls. It had Maori on 4% and people wondering if that would stay. The party had breadth and depth and will have more people on the ground And they will have a strong candidate to run that. And now be formidable for the Maori party to deal that. They don't have the same level infrastructure that labour has. Maori party will be relying on getting someone's other budget to be able to take to their people and say this is what we got. Don't doubt the Maori party. When they fire up and their teams come out of, We are formidable on the ground. There is going to be a major contest and Western Maori. This is not a done deal. This party has a very solid base. It is not flashy. COMING UP, YOUR FEEDBACK ON TODAY'S INTERVIEWS. (EMINEM'S 'LOSE YOURSELF') AND THEN OUR PANEL HAS THEIR FINAL SAY ON THE HITS AND MISSES OF THE POLITICAL WEEK. THAT'S AFTER THE BREAK. YOUR FEEDBACK NOW ON WINSTON PETERS. DARRELL LINGMAN TWEETED I WANT WINSTON AS THE PM! SUE POCKETT EMAIL US THAT SHE AGREES WITH EVERYTHING WINSTON SAYS, BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO RISK HIS PUTTING NATIONAL IN AGAIN. Time for the political hits and misses. My hit for the week was Phil Goff. And the 200 day mark. It is a poisoned chalice is a job, but he has done well. And his resistance to the powerful and self-interested lobby groups representing the tourism and hotel industries I think was a mark of his character and his ability to compromise. My missus was Nick Smith he lacks empathy. And on the bottled water debate, he just doesn't get it. The miss have been a number. It was Prince Philip's announcement that he won't accept any more engagements. And I am sorry that Elizabeth hasn't done the same, because I think it would be nice with them to relax. And I hope it should happen, because they shouldn't have too many more years. That was my hit. I can't follow the Royals. I think Jonathan Coleman's announcement on mental health was a hit and miss. It was a hit that it was a knowledge owing. But it was amiss that thousands have suffered under his leadership. And Willie to get on the top 10 would have been the first Bruce Jenner. Shane Jones, New Zealand first, everyone is talking about it. When he finishes his job with mfat, he might announce that he stands for New Zealand first. WAKA HUIA IS NEXT. REMEMBER ` Q+A REPEATS TONIGHT AT 11.35 PM. THANKS FOR WATCHING, AND THANKS FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS. THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS, AND THOSE WERE THE ANSWERS. THAT'S Q+A. SEE YOU NEXT SUNDAY MORNING AT 9.