What Next is about to start, and you're going to need your phone or computer with you, because this really is a conversation with you. Join the rest of the country at whatnext.nz and when we ask you a question, all you've got to do is press that button on your device. It couldn't be any easier. So join in now. Kia ora, everyone, and welcome. This is a series that asks what will New Zealand be like in 20 years' time, and what do we want it to look like? The choices we make right now will determine whether New Zealand in 2037 is an amazing country that thrives or a backwater that fails. So what should we do together? Let's discuss what comes next. Technology worries me so much, because I'm scared of everything being done by robots. What if they try to take over the world? I do think robots can do my job. That's OK. I'll just get another one. Hell no, I would not trust a robot to operate on me. I think a driverless car would be awesome. I can't wait. I am not computer savvy, sorry. But unfortunately, it's the way of our future. My daughter knows more than me. I'm a Star Trek fan, and in the Star Trek universe, they don't care about the attainment of wealth, they care about the betterment of mankind. And I think that'll be a great society for New Zealand. It's really interesting to see how far we've come and how far we can go. We need to come up with some big plans, and we need to do that now. We're living in a period of change which may be unparalleled in human history. Climate change, population growth, automation, an environment under immense pressure. It's all already happening. Over the next five nights of live television, we're going to look at the big stuff headed our way and how we might respond ` in our daily lives, with our families, our kids and as a nation. Our country in 2037 will be shaped by what we do and decide now. There are things here that are going to amaze you, and some things that might be a little frightening too. We're going to look at our jobs, our environment, our classrooms, our health. And on our last night, we're going to bring all our voices together to get a sense of what we want. There's good reason to be optimistic about our future, but we have to decide what we want, so let's have that conversation. And to begin ` what might buying a car look like in 2037? She's a beauty, isn't she? First Stage 5 to hit New Zealand. No steering wheel and no pedals. Just four comfy seats. Sit back and relax. In an emergency, the car's algorithm is programmed to save the greatest number of lives. I am required by law to let you know that. Therefore, this car may decide to take action which might result in your death. You look worried. It's unlikely anything will happen. These cars are 1000 times safer than any human driver, including ` I'm sorry, it's true ` you. So would you trust a robot with your life? So far two-thirds of us say we wouldn't, but will that change during the series? Go to whatnext.nz and add your voice. Driverless cars might seem like just a nice futuristicy thing to have, but this isn't a trivial issue. They could have a $1.4 trillion impact on the economy and make radical changes to the labour and housing markets. We're starting with a driverless car because it's an example of how something very many of us have is about to be completely reinvented. A Level 5 car has no steering wheel. And this is a Level 2 car. You can buy this today, and it has more code inside it than an A380 Airbus. I got to give it a drive in Australia, to see what it was like to give up control to a robot. It's not autonomous steering, but what happens is once it sees that it's getting close to that white line, it gives you a gentle nudge back in the other direction. It's like a special sort of cruise control. So as we're coming down into here, we're just following this other car, and that's the car braking without me doing anything. And now it's accelerating, and again, this is not me. Why would we even want driverless cars? Like, why are we doing this in the first place? Because driverless cars will be safer cars. They will know the limits of physics, and they will respect the limits of physics. The technology is unstoppable at this point. Like, autonomous cars are coming. It is going to happen, but my belief is that we will have those assisted systems, but you will still have the option ` when it's fun, when you want to drive dynamically ` to do it by yourself. I can buy a Level 2 car now. A Level 3 is coming very soon. How soon before we get Level 4 and 5 cars and I can read a book in the car? Our CEO, Dr Zetsche, has put 2030 as a company goal. By 2030 there will be full autonomous driving. The idea of a Level 5 car ` with no steering wheel and no pedals and me not doing anything ` I think that would be fantastic. To be honest, I trust data and computers better than I do humans. I would have absolutely no problem trusting my life to a robot, even a Level 2 robot, because it's making better decisions than I would. After five minutes, I was a total convert. So what do driverless cars mean ` big picture ` for our future? To help us over the next five nights us we have a team of futurists ` people who spend their lives researching and thinking about what the future will be like. Welcome, everyone. We are starting with driverless cars because this is the start of how things are going to change and while we think we understand that we kind of don't yet. We are just seeing the very beginning. We need to think about how much we pay to have a house in the city and if you could live 20km from the city centre and the productive time that you are sitting in a car. So suddenly housing property values change. And the idea of listening to the radio. Radio gets turned off and Skype gets open. I think driverless cars or trucks and buses is probably the single most recognisable change the Kiwi would experience in 2037. Because we all drive and were driven by someone else. The cars will cost virtually nothing. You do not need to own at Parkers anywhere. That will transform our cities in a landscape. There would be walkways or parks instead of car park. But we will lose tens of thousands of jobs Fotr all the Kiwis that make their lives behind the steering wheel. We need to start planning for it now. My baby will probably never own or drive a car. The single piece of technology has the widest impact on all of life and how we do things, where we live, where we were, what we had to do every day. And driverless cars is a fantastic example for exploring the future. We use his concept of the three Ps. Driverless cars is an interesting opportunity to explore the landscape. We will have a billion fold increase in computational power over the last few years. We pair artificial intelligence and robotics, we get self driving cars. That is going to enable over the next six years a whole range of other possibilities for us as well. What is that going to do when AI is as powerful as the human mind And then as powerful as the entire human race? We are going to address the job losses on Thursday. We want you to weigh in, so let's see what you thought about Q1 ` would you trust a robot with your life? This is something we all have to adjust to. I am at the conservative end of the spectrum. I kind of fear the stuff. I don't really understand it. I am hoping to go on a journey over the next five nights and learn about as much as we wear heading and how we can cope with it as much as we can. I would happily give my children to a robot. Next, how I destroyed a man's business, and some really bad news for accountants. So, who wants Nova's great-value energy? Heaps of people. I knocked at Dr Knox and Jock the Lock's. Doc ` check. Jock ` check. Checked the Chuck's Charcoal Chicken? Uh, checked Chuck's Charcoal Chicken Tuesday. Chook ` check. BOTH: Choice. Hey, did you ring at Kings'? Uh, yep. Kings; Keatings; Kipling's Couplings; Werring's Herrings. Rang at Huang's? I rang Huang and the gang. Met Fang. (GROWLS, YAPS) Dang. Let's nip to Nick's Taranaki Knick-Knacks next. (KNOCKS) Knock-knock, Nick. No Nick? Ah! 'Back in a tick.' It's Greg Grover from Nova. CHUCKLES: Oh, don't start that all over. Check out the three essentials for a healthy home on our website. So let's see if you'd trust a robot with your life. 57% are saying no. I am surprised the number is that low. Just over half the population say no they would not. It is the whole country. So they are kind of swaying at no on this one. We will see if there are geographical differences. Other cities more likely to embrace technology than our rural people? Robots and technology are creeping into every area of our lives This is live data coming in from your voices. and they re causing jobs to disappear. Stephen Loo lost his job to technology. He used to own my local video store. Remember those? I went there every Friday night, but then along came streaming, and I went a bit less, and then not at all, and now the store is gone. Cool, here we are. When did the shop close, Stephen? We went until August 2015. It was a fantastic shop, though. We just had new releases all the way down this wall, right along the back wall there, huge counter. On a busy weekend, there were so many people in the shop, people coming and going, families coming and going. When streaming came in, did you think that you could beat it? I think naively I thought I could run alongside it. I didn't know how long I could run alongside it for. But for us it was, yes, the eventual slide in turnover, as more and more people did that, and there was probably less requirement for a 180m2 shop with 30,000 discs in it, when they could get probably what they wanted directly to their PC screen. Where was the point where you thought, 'This is the end'? That curve just started dropping away slowly. We got to the point where it was in your face, and so we just made the call that we're not going to survive this and just decided that was going to be the end, sadly. As someone who lost a business to technology, do you think that the rest of us have got our heads around what technology is going to do to us in terms of employment? I don't think many would have any idea. I've never thought about it until now. So if I am the normal person, then I would say the majority of normal people have thought about it. We go home, we carry on, we do family things, we drive our kids to sports or to clubs and life goes on, until that time where technology comes and crunches your job. But we don't think about it, do we? Don't worry about Stephen. He's a real estate agent now. But the reality is we've been losing jobs to robots for a while. This is the OCS robot cleaner that helps keep Auckland Airport tidy and has taken a handful of jobs in the process. Now, we kind of expect robots will take lower-skill jobs, but what about the complex ones? There are currently 17,669 accountants in New Zealand. A report predicted ` because of automation ` there's a 95% chance eventually there will only be 19 accountants left in the country. And that report wasn't from the Society for People who Hate Accountants. It was actually from the Chartered Accountant's Association. It's kind of sobering. People want work. People need work. People identify themselves through their work. Do we have any real sense of how many of the jobs we currently do are at risk? Wendy, can you start this off? Change is now the new concert. You could see in Stephen's situation, There was new technology, streaming, how would it play out? He had to evolve and respond to it. One of the things I see as extremely important is for corporate is to engage And get some forward and precursor re-engage with this issue. One of the classic examples as IRD. They acknowledge that by 20 2130% of the staff will not exist. We are talking to New Zealand Post about that issue. We talk about the benefit of hindsight. If we take these insights and find out where change is happening, if you go back to the airport and say People are self checking in and we don't think about the people who were checking us in before are no longer in those roles. The baggage carousel is a fully automated system. The buses at the Christchurch airport. These changes are happening And we can see these insights and how will it affect my role and what do I need to do about it? These changes are happening in the cities and in our rural towns as well. It is literally every sector is going to be disrupted. 50% of all service roles over the next 10 years will be disrupted. We know it is coming. We have the benefit of hindsight and foresight. We talk about blue-collar jobs. Louise Taylor, a lawyer who works for Simpson Grierson, is already seeing her profession being disrupted. I think one of the great things about AI is that they can do a lot of high-volume work very quickly. One example is JP Morgan has produced a product which can analyse high volumes of contract loan documentation ` very mind-numbing work. The product can analyse documents which used to take 360,000 hours of lawyer time every year, and it can now be done in seconds, which is just astounding. That's 173 lawyers gone with just one piece of software in one small area of law. What are we to make of all this usher? It is a scaling transformation of our workforce. 60% of the jobs that we know now will not exist In 20 years time and 60% of them will fundamentally change. It is not just the lower skilled jobs that we are talking about. We are talking about a ricochet affect across the whole workforce. We are really accustomed to being fearful about migration. But migration is not the greatest risk to our workforce today. It is automation. Just because it is a rest does not mean we need to be fatalistic. We can prepare for this. Changes don't need to mean unemployment. Machines have been taking our jobs Since we invented the wheel. Humans have been really good at inventing new jobs. The difference this time as maybe artificial intelligence and robots I'm not going to have any prejudice. Everyone across the board as it riskier. Blue-collar and white-collar and green colour and no collar. Everybody is in this together. That is exciting but it is also very scary. Someone teaches the robot how to be a robot. And that is going to be asked. So there will be tens of thousands of jobs. We are going to talk about all the issues that are raised as a dominoes fall. Join the conversation at whatnext.nz and answer this question ` if lawyers and accountants can be replaced by automation, could a robot do your job better than you in the future? Lots of feedback coming in already. We love hearing from you. Tiffany from Auckland says humans are much more prone to error Next ` what kind of future are we headed towards? What's the good stuff that technology is going to bring? Many of us quickly slide into apocalyptic visions when we think of the future ` it goes all Skynet and the robots decide we're the problem and terminate us. But in the real world ` now ` is that really where we're headed? The story that we tell ourselves is going to be really important in the future. We can tell a story and set our sights on this horrible future where we don't have jobs and technology takes over, and that's of course where we're going to head, because that's what we're looking at and that's our target. But if we reframe it and say, 'Actually our target is this wonderful future where technology is a partner, it's a tool, it's not a destination,' then if we set our sights on that brighter future, we are going to head that way, and I really urge people to think about that path, because we get to build it. Disruption offers a lot of uncertainty, but is that because we see technology as an enemy, something to fear and fight, rather than something that is inevitable and could even make our lives better. And there is some amazing stuff coming. Stephen Henry has invented some pretty complicated technology he describes as 'shape paint'. Basically, you can paint things like this hip, and it means the bacteria can't stick, so you don't get infections in hip replacements, but this shape paint can also cure cancer! Our shape paint did nothing but taught the body to recognise the cancer, bad antigens. So now your body goes and attacks the tumour. So what this means simply is if we inject a single tumour, your body will be taught what your cancer looks like, and then we'll be able to go out and find all the other tumours elsewhere in your body, just by teaching it to know what to look for. I would say that there will be substantial advances within three years, and we could very much see a large percentage of cancers being treatable definitely within five years, if not shorter timeframes than that. And curing cancer is just the start. This technology can do so much. We're working with pharmaceutical companies to target drugs to different parts of the body. We're working with pharmaceutical companies to develop other things that can be done to improve the way your body reacts to certain diseases and all the way to bandages that will help your body learn how to heal itself. So we move on to new projects, hand the projects over to other people, and then keep moving on and developing more and more. Where do you think technology is leading us? I think we're going too fast. I personally would like things to slow down, as exciting as it is, it's just going too fast. Some days I look at the Amish people and think, you know, 'They've got a pretty good life and a pretty good quality,' and I could certainly hop off the boat for a period of time. But we're not going to slow it down. That's the problem. It's a beast on the run, and it's going to run its course. So where's it going? Well, it hopefully goes where we can control it to go to, but unfortunately, I don't think that will be the case. The peace of the Amish lifestyle appeals, but I was filled with hope after spending an afternoon in his lab. What are some of the wonders that technology will usher in within the next 20 years? With definitely got the high-tech innovation. But as well is that whole industry emerging we have opportunities with technology to take away some of the mundane tasks so that is a huge opportunity around what those employees might otherwise do with their time. In the middle there is this huge emergence of new opportunities that technology can allow. One of the examples as we are working with an iwi who are interested in helping bring forth innovative talents of their people. So we are helping them build a gentle e-commerce incubator for their families that can live within their communities and then serve a 5 billion person economy around the world with new technologies and their own skill sets that they can bring forth into the digital arena. There is also really good evidence. Manpower does a survey of the number of vacancies. In 2017 there was the highest number of vacancies that no one could fill since 2007. They were in digital innovation but also new ways of doing business. Accountants who are losing their job need to be looking at how they transform businesses so that they are more technology enabled and transform what we have is one business into a different model. I love that expression best on the run. That is fantastic. That gets across it is going to happen to us no matter what. So we need to make some strategic choices. Those choices and can't be made by industry specific group. We need to develop consensus. To have that dialogue is going to be hard work but we have to be up for it because if we are ahead of it we can manage the beast. I spoke to an investor Steve Saunders and his take was that technology would bring balance back to our lives. The future of technology, I think, for New Zealand is incredibly exciting. I think it's going to open the door to a lot more self-worth in terms of machines and automation. AI are going to take away those day-to-day tasks, and it's actually going to allow us to be people again. It's going to allow us to have more self-worth, a lot more social interaction, a lot more common activity. And things like Zoomy, for example, it's where you're creating jobs, you can be self-employed, you can work the hours, you get that right work/life balance. Is he right? We will leave some of the drudgery behind? We can have a society that is more prosperous and happy than anything that we have known and a very long time. So we can have a society where we have more leisure time, we have more opportunity to pursue meaning and purpose and contribute to our families and our communities. If that is how we choose to run it. And it very much as a choice because at the bottom of all of this is how we distribute the benefits of technology. It's a really important point. Because you can fixate on the terrible things that might come but there are some opportunities as well. Next ` we're going to look at something This is a real-time conversation with you. What do you think? Will technology make your life better? Go to whatnext.nz, hit the 'load next question' button, and tell us what you think. Let's have a look and see what you think. The stuff I have like making the show it's already happening. Machines are very cleverly learning all about us and we think it is great. We're going to talk about how we educate our children to use this technology and invent it. Could a robot do your job better than you? 62% are saying no. A robot could not. There will be interesting to see as we go through the week if people's thinking changes. I think a robot could do a lot of jobs better. Is this which will thinking? Is it resistant to change? Or is naturally the truth? Next ` we're going to look at something close to every parent's heart. How do we help our kids prepare for this uncertain future? Technology is our fastest-growing sector. In Auckland alone, over 9000 jobs have been created in the tech sector in the last five years, and nationally it employs nearly 100,000 people. We couldn't even imagine what these jobs were a decade ago. Are we teaching kids the skills they'll need for jobs that don't even exist yet? Pearl Robin did a business degree, and then taught herself coding. She feels like the traditional school system isn't giving young people what they need for their future. If you look at it 50 years ago or 100 years ago, the education system hasn't really developed at all. But you look at technology today, and you look at the environment that we have, and it's so different, yet we're still trying to teach people in the same way, and we're still trying to educate people on things that are no longer really useful. We just try to cram information into people's heads and say that memory is the best way that you should be educated. I find that ridiculous. Go Google something. She is right. We have way more intelligent conversations and we have ever had and we can do is Google things. So what does this mean for the future for our kids? Vaughan Rowsell is the founder of Vend, a $100 million retail software company. He thinks we need to do more, so he is. We created a series of workshops where in one day we can get 100 kids together and they can just play with the technology. And they are playing, but what we're also teaching them is how to understand what the technology is ` being able to imagine and create, and not be afraid of the technology. And the reason why the kids aren't afraid of the technology is because they understand how it works. We literally give them computers that they can pull apart so they can see what's inside the computers. And so we want the kids to leave our workshops thinking that they can be a rocket scientist or program robots or be a game developer. Do you think that we are currently, as a country, doing enough to prepare children for the future? No. The pace of change is accelerating. It's not going to slow down. And we're not even introducing kids to coding. We're just starting to consider that now. We're just starting to think, 'Yeah, maybe this is a skill that kids should learn.' But then, what next? I think we're kind of painting ourselves into a corner, because the way that kids are going to learn in the next 10 years, in the next 20 years, is going to be vastly different to how we've learnt for the last 150 years. And there's just no way that the education system and teachers can keep up with the rate of change. That was a fantastic afternoon. The secretary told me 200 parents signed their kid up for the after-school programme, but there were only 60 spaces. So clearly this is stuff a lot of parents want for their kids. I think the point that Perl made I don't think she realised just how right she is. The school system is based on models like Eton and England which was set up in 1440 when we thought the sun revolved around the earth. It is really hard to change. I think we should blow it up and reimagined and designed from scratch like every other industry has had to do in the last 500 years and not just because of technology but because we should be teaching people how to live their lives not just how to make a living. That means empathy, creativity, compassion and designing their own path to a future that is bound to have changed. It is about designing our life but we now live in a world where we have all these changes and we have information at our fingertips through technology. So to teach our young peoplehow to grapple with these challenges And how we can co-create things using technology that is a necessary part of the curriculum that we should start feeding and a younger age. Which is a challenging idea when we think about our conventional education system at the moment. And those of you who are my age or older Education is all about the three R's. And a lot of schools and parents think that it's still vital. But there's a new model, the four C's ` collaboration, critical thinking, creativity and communication. So what would a school look like if it really embraced the four C's? This is a state school. (all sing waiata) All the teachers teach all the subjects. For example, I've been teaching a passion-based inquiry for the last couple of weeks since the start of term and one of my students is exploring horses. What makes a horse calm gentle or friendly is one of your questions. I'm trying to include all of the subjects in there, so I'm looking at the maths curriculum saying, 'What kind of maths can I put into this?' Could you sell that art and then pay that $30 that you owe us back, and then sell it for a bit more and make a bit more money? How do parents respond to this school? Because it's quite different. Yeah, mixed, actually, to be fair. Change anywhere is pretty difficult to digest sometimes. And in education it seems equally challenging. I guess the difficult thing is that, in some ways, it would feel like it's an experiment with the kids who are at the school. So it's not a whim. It's something that's researched. It's something that's thought through. It's something that's got a sound base. I mean, it's got something that the futurist would say is valid. That's a really important part of what keeps us going. How will this prepare kids for the future? With everything we're hearing from the business and employment sector around the changing nature of the workforce, the skill set that's going to be required to be successful. The flexibility that they'll need to address problems, solve issues collaboratively, a sense of being able to adapt their skill set to an unknown future is a really big part of the delivery and design. The whole notion of making learning real, contextualising it, getting kids to see the value and the worth of the way that they're working. We feel a pressure to make it work, but we feel a real moral obligation to make that work as well, because obviously we believe in what we're doing. It was a great day. Kids were engaged and having fun. Parents will be anxious watching that. They will think it is not education. I love what they are doing. They are typical of so many primary and intermediate schools. Modern learning environments. Parents are feeling really supported by this new model. The kids are motivated in their learning. But once the children get into high school the parents always put on a different hat and say it is all about the exams and they want to go back to rote learning. I never understood this mind shift that we want to go back to the way we learnt when we were younger. Kim from Wellington was questioning about teachers and the relevance of teachers in today's world. Questioning whether a teacher could be a robot. In the classroom environment humans are very important but we are heading towards 10 billion people in the world in the majority of people under the age of 18. They can't all go to school. More and more students will learn online. So to teach more young people online it will require more ways of teaching and more AI and more robots. They will be more accommodating to different ways of teaching. There is a that we see here in New Zealand and then as global world. They are parallel worlds. The population of young people. It is fair for parents to be cautious about their children. That is their job. But we have to be really clear that the greatest risk here as to stay with the status quo Rather than a bracing change. We have moved from a time when knowledge is power and being an accountant or a lawyer or a surgeon is the pinnacle of success for a child. We have moved into a time when Google isopen access knowledge and we need to be preparing our children for a different future and be preparing ourselves. These children that are learning all of these fantastic skills at Haeata we need to marry that. We need to have five or six or seven Koreas in our life. Looking at the changing workplace later in the week that looks spookily like that. So, what do you think? Are we educating children for the world they'll look for work in? Are we providing meaningful access to our own future? Go to whatnext.nz and tell us what you think. He said... Very good point. It is an incredibly good point. Access to technology across all of those different ages will be very important. Shea was nodding as you are reading it out. The rate of exclusion is high because people left behind a people lost. Let's have a look at what you all think about technology and your future ` better or not? Will technology make your life better? Overwhelmingly New Zealand think technology will make our lives better. Right across the country we are thinking this is going to improve life for all of us. That is encouraging. Next ` we're going to pull all of your voices together and see how New Zealand wants to deal with technology on our journey to 2037. Welcome back. What effect will technology have on New Zealand in 2037? This is our first five nights and we thought we would enter night with a brief summing up from each of our wonderful futurists about what they think is the most important thing you can take from tonight. Wendy, what would you like us to think about? We need to embrace change and make choices, be inclusive, enjoy the creativity and play in a space so that we can engage with an early. The most important thing to remember is the technology is going to advance more quickly than our ethical conversations about what we could or should do with the technology. So as much as technology can bring out the best of the worst of humanity, can make us more prosperous, it can make us more unequal as a society. So if we want to create a future that our grandchildren deserve, we need to be making the conversation about what kind of future we are creating together. I think it is really important, given how fundamental the changes going to be for everyone that technology is going to create, that we all have an equal opportunity to participate in that change. If I think about my family in the rural far north right now, they are not able to participate in the Facebook live straight after this because we do not have good Internet access for a wheeler. CORRECTION: where we live. I was watching that beautiful piece of vision from the school and I noticed there was a lot of Apple products. There are a lot of people in New Zealand that cannot afford that stuff. So inclusion means having the tools to work at. As much as technology is going to be a huge driver for New Zealand, we need to make the decisions that make sure that what happens reflects our values and what we believe the future for New Zealand to look like. And that means a lot of planning and thinking and questioning whether we're doing enough of that at all levels of society from the top to the bottom. I think those are some interesting things to talk about over the next four nights. We are not responsible just for ourselves or our future or the future of our children, but for multiple generations to come. And if the very thing that can make us change and make good decisions as our mind and brain, then we owe it to our future generations to learn and to keep learning and to find ways to join this revolution of change and not be fearful of the fact that things are changing faster than we can imagine. We just say that we will give it our best shot and take this country forward. Thank you, futurists. We're really looking forward to continuing this discussion over the next four nights. You can hear more from the futurists live on Facebook after What Next finishes. It will be good conversation. But now let's see what we think we should be preparing our kids for ` traditional or tech careers? It is overwhelming. I am surprised it is that high, but is a reflection of of what we want for our kids is the ability to face the world. Lots of educationalists will be screaming at the telly that it is. We just need more of that stuff. Let's look at the four questions together now. 86% think technology is going to make their lives better and that we should be preparing could switch technical but there is the paradox of people thinking that they do not trust robots. It is very personal. No one wants to lose their job to a robot. That's when it gets personal. The tummy gets tight. With all the questions we asked you, one answer allowed you to say that you're pretty happy with the way things are, and the other answer suggested that maybe you want to look at doing things differently. These purple gauges mean that you're pretty happy with what we're doing, and in these orange areas, you think we should try new things. Like the question about preparing kids for tech or traditional career paths. 86% tech, so you overwhelmingly went orange. We are using purple to represent plan a Plan A people think New Zealand is doing pretty much the right things already. Maybe a few tweaks here and there is all we need. Orange represents Plan B. You think we may need some outside-the-box thinking ` a more radical course correction. Sometimes you might be Plan A, sometimes Plan B. And that's what we'll discover over the next week. What does New Zealand want for the future? Do we keep doing similar things ` with some changes, of course ` or should we try some very different ideas? And so our last question of the night ` do you want Plan A or Plan B for dealing with the impact of technology? Choose Plan A if you think we're dealing with technology correctly, and choose Plan B if you think we need to try some new ideas. We'll reveal the results of the last question and New Zealand's vision for the future ` a roadmap for NZ 2037 ` on Thursday night. But tomorrow we're going to ask how our environment can survive through to 2037 and beyond. This is over five nights. If we have not discussed it tonight, there is a good chance that we will over the next four nights. If you want to continue the conversation, head to Facebook now, where, thanks to the support of University of Auckland, we are hosting a live-stream think tank where our Futurists will be talking more about what you have to say. See you here, live, tomorrow at 8.30. And trust me, if you thought tonight was challenging, tomorrow is gonna be quite something. Captions by Desney Shaw and Ingrid Lauder. www.able.co.nz Captions were made with the support of NZ On Air. Copyright Able 2017