What Next is about to start, and you're going to need your phone or computer with you, because this really is a conversation with you. Join the rest of the country at whatnext.nz and when we ask you a question, all you've got to do is press that button on your device. It couldn't be any easier. So join in now. What will New Zealand look like in 2037? Will we be clean and green? What will New Zealand look like in 2037? Will we be clean and green? Or will we have wasted all that away? New Zealand ` an environmental disaster story? Collectively, let's decide together what we can do. What next for the future of our environment? We do need to have a bigger plan and better plans for the future. New Zealand is absolutely clean and green, but we can't slack off. We can't get complacent about it. I don't think New Zealand's ever really been clean and green. I think it's more of a myth. Yes, I can do something about climate change, because I can plant a tree. The thought of eating bugs is really gross, but it could happen. I would definitely eat laboratory meat. Mankind is the worst thing that's happened to the planet. We only have a finite amount of resources in this world, and we're using them up rapidly. We need to come up with some big plans, and we need to do that now. Copyright Able 2017 Kia Ora, and welcome. What Next is a live conversation with you about what we want New Zealand to be like in 20 years ` the year 2037. Received almost 90,000 votes and that doesn't include tonight. We asked you at the end whether you were Plan A ` think we are on the right track ` or Plan B ` needing some new ideas. And currently, 72% of you think that we should try Plan B ` some new ways to deal with technology. And Adrian on Facebook told us... 'An interesting programme. However it's all pushing one point of view ` 'the futurist! The discussion is too one-sided.' It's true we are exploring Plan B more than Plan A. And that's because we live in the world of Plan A. We are living Plan A. And so we are telling you about other options, but there's nothing necessarily wrong with Plan A. We want to know what you think. So let's see what the futurists thought about what you thought from last night. Thank you for your feedback. Futurist, lovely to see you again. Amazing feedback. It wasn't all about your clothing. What did you make of what people were saying to us? I was inspired. I read a lot of comments. And by and large people are into this discussion. They are optimistic and realistic But want to engage with what's possible. The Plan B gives us as well. We already have in the world the Plan B happening. And where and plan a and thinking about the future. But we are looking overseas and seeing that Plan B is already in play And we should join it and keep moving. You have been doing this stuff for years. There's been lots of times I thought oh my God. This is the first time people had a star. I am not surprised that people are up for Plan B. We are courageous nation that punches above its weight. We climb insanely huge mountains. Where a nation of people that come here from other countries we are not shy and timid. Where are a nation of really remarkable people. So I'm heartened but not surprised by the feedback from last night. Shea? What you make of this. I think New Zealand is overwhelmingly supportive of moving to Plan B and as this is something that affects all of our lives, it is at pollute the appropriate. In terms of the environment at something that will take a bit longer an interesting to see how we react to that. And considering when agricultural nation this is a scarier topic. I think technology and the environment go together. It is very interesting to stable technology and then move to environment because a lot of the solutions for the environment and technology. It is wonderful to have you back tonight. Tonight we will be talking about the environment, and so what could going to a restaurant look like in the year 2037? Hmm. I just don't know what to get! Not really into that synthetic stuff, eh. You're really after the protein. Oh, nah, I think I might just go for the locusts. Here's today's complimentary appetizer. It's a small serving of butter-sauted cricket crunch. The crickets are grown in the chef's own garden. The specials today are beef sashimi with foie gras. The beef in this dish is from a Wellington lab which is famed for its replica texture and a zero-carbon record. And we have the honey locust kale cups. The locusts are ethically and organically farmed on the Waikato plains. Enjoy! That seems pretty aware but stay with us. Tonight we're focusing on the environment, but we're also going to be talking about the economic implications of our environmental choices. Because if we're talking about the future of the environment, technology and the economy are intimately linked with that. Over the last month we asked you ` 'Would you eat bugs if it was better for the environment?' Go to whatnext.nz to add your voice to the discussion. At the moment, 63% of New Zealand would eat bugs. So maybe the idea of eating bugs isn't as gross as we first thought. I had the opportunity to try them and in limp. 50 million people in the world get their protein from insects, so is this something we should consider? Need to find protein efficiently and sustainably. Are we about to change what we eat in a big way? I did eat bugs but I regretted some of it. You probably need to eat a lot of these ants to get your daily protein needs met. But maybe it's a way to get used to eating bugs, if that's how we're going to get our protein in the future. Bug eating isn't that common here, but Roots restaurant in Lyttleton have ants and locusts on the menu. So here we have paua ravioli with dry fish broth and local scarab. And a tomato sphere with ants and basil. When sushi first arrived in New Zealand, most people thought it was weird and kind of gross. Enjoy. Thank you. Within two to three decades, it's widely accepted, and it's a lot of people's favourite food now. Ants are great because they taste good, first of all, but second of all, they're really approachable. We like to think of them as the gateway bug. It's a small insect that can get past that first mental barrier that people have, and they can see, 'OK, I've eaten insects, and they were awesome. 'What's next?' What else is out there?' It's tomatoey, but you do get this acidic little ant thing going on. It's quite nice. The wild-harvested New Zealand lemongrass ants are actually sourced in Canterbury by Peter. New Zealand's first, and I'm quite sure best, commercial ant harvester. And to a lot of people, it would seem like a crazy idea that humans would eat bugs. The thing is humans already do. I think a lot of people forget that. 80% of the world's cultures eat bugs on a daily basis. This is actually a really viable protein alternative that is already being utilised in huge portions of the world. It's an entire food group that people are ignoring in the western world. There's 2000 species of edible bugs out there. The palatel range is insane. There are bugs that taste like kaffir lime, lemongrass, blue cheese, mushrooms, even lollies. How big do you think the edible insect industry could be in 20 years' time? You'll have your beef, your lamb, your fish, your chicken and your bugs. There's no reason why this couldn't be the number one primary industry in New Zealand. It is aware thing to ask people how that industry will be. Peter ` the guy ant harvesting there ` has a cousin who's a dairy farmer looking at getting into growing locusts. Bugs use 2000% less water, 10 times less feed and can produce 25% more protein than beef, which is a pretty compelling argument for bugs over cows. This isn't just about bugs. It's about our economic history ` we're a farming nation. Can I have a show of hands of who grew up on farms. 3/5 from farms. Far north. We have some great kiwi farmers here. So why are we discussing bugs was a mark we discussed automation and the impact of that on our jobs. Now we discussing environmental pressures and changing attitudes and the potential of that to impact on how we farm. There is no question of whether we farm. It is a question of what we found. Bugs are something we could potentially farm. We could even farm and as a nation if we don't need it ourselves. I'm not gonna be enthusiastic about eating crickets, but I'll happily eat flower made of cricket flower. And there's all these options. Such is not using flowers with lots of additives. All growing them for feed to other animals. Somewhat at estimate this industry as a brilliant dollar marketing growing fast. We areglobally tracking towards a much larger population going towards 10 billion. So the macro is going towards people who need protein. We can't keep cutting beef off a cow to feed the world. We need to look about sustainable ways of making protein. But people still want to eat beef? I think that'll happen for decades to come. But whether New Zealand should be in the business of growing bugs or not. And what is the answer that? We'll see that as we go in the episode. As the agriculture industry ready to lock in a new direction? I think that is the question where asking tonight. We can't afford not to be part of the revolution, from my perspective. We've got to be aware of these new technologies. It may ultimately be that producing food in a biological natural way is our niche, but if we're not aware of what other people are doing, we can't be an effective competitor in any market. You need to look at the wool sector in NZ. They ignored the fact that people may buy carpets made from synthetic materials like oil, and as a consequence, they just let that market go on its own. And now 97% of carpets sold around the world are not made from wool. So we've got a real lesson already where we've seen if we ignore these moves, what happens to an industry? That is fascinating. But I was thinking we used to have 70 million sheep but now we have 30 million so farmers can change. You want to lead the change in not being forced into it. It was ending up with a change in not planning for it. It is really important that we are responding now and looking at the New Zealand and one for the future. And right now we have a great agriculture reputation. We agree to produce and wine. Let's also be great at technology in the future of food. Our farmers are mortgaged out to the eyes. These are big businesses. So how do we protect them from the future crushing what they have? I think it is really important to create an innovative culture. So having the ability for everyone to get together and work together individually towards the same goal. So let's explore the options. And that's what will do tonight. I have really been enjoying the conversationwith New Zealand. Ingrid from Auckland said and I have to say the science would be on your side. Do we want to be part of that revolution? What happens if one of our biggest industries is disrupted? What would happen, for instance, if someone in New Zealand made chicken with no chicken? Well, they have. And it tastes amazing. And after the break we will see Nigel eat it. And I have any tenets but it looks surprisingly good. Let's see if you'd eat bugs instead of beef if it helped the environment. First let me explain how the gauges work. We are using your feedback to improve things as we go along. This is purple which means that over 50% of you said no. The white line shows how strong that no vote is. The bigger the white line the stronger we feel. Because we are 50-50 on this one there is only a tiny bit of white at the top. We asked this question... By far and away the people most likely to say yes to that question were people under 35. Those people are going to eat for longer because they have more of their lives ahead of them and also young people are often early adopters of major cultural changes. So we should take that fact seriously. If bugs aren't for you, there are other ways to get protein that are better for the environment than conventional farming. I took chocolate covered scorpions to a school when I was out and they ate them. In fact, some think the future is all about getting our protein more efficiently. Eric Schmidt, the chairman of Google's parent company, reckons switching to plant protein is going to be one of the most significant innovations heading our way. Is there a way to eat plant protein that doesn't feel weird? New Zealander Shama Lee has done just that ` made something she calls 'chickenless chicken'. It's made of yellow split peas, also known as pulses. The United Nations declared 2016 the year of pulses because they see this as a sustainable future. Pulses are pretty amazing. They are nitrogen-fixing, so they don't need fertiliser, and one of the biggest pollutants in our rivers at the moment is nitrate, so that's a really big thing. They are quite hardy, so don't need as much pesticides, and they actually hold water in the soil, so they don't need irrigation. How do you make peas taste like chicken? So traditionally, the definition of meat is animal flesh. We said, 'OK, we'll define meat by its composition and its structure.' And if you look at that meat structurally, the proteins are aligned in a certain way that give it that delicious texture, that bite we like. We take pulses, which you couldn't eat raw, and we use very clean processing techniques, cooking techniques of just pressure, temperature and water to create this product. Here you are, sir. Royal Thai chicken-free chicken green curry. Thank you. And where will this be in the supermarket? Which section will it be in? It will be placed next to chicken, because the idea is to evolve less towards a meat aisle, more towards a protein aisle. So when you go into the supermarket there's a whole selection of proteins that you can pick from, and that can be a traditional conventional animal meat or that can be now plant proteins. That's amazing. The texture is just like chicken. If I didn't know that was not chicken meat, I would think that was chicken. We eat 90 million chickens a year ` about 35kg each! My great comfort food is chicken curry We could produce about five times that protein from growing peas on the same amount of land. And what about protein from laboratory meat as an alternative to farming? It's probably about 20 to 30 years away, but would we want to eat it? it is weird. Tonight feels like a MasterChef. I don't know what to say. It takes like really nice chicken. So lab-based meat ` is this just a weird technological side-street or is this something that could destroy our agriculture industry? I think if it tastes great and as long as it is the same price, it will explode. I had the opportunity three weeks ago in New York to go to a restaurant that served a burger that was made from plant-based beef. And I had to Kiwi friends there with me. In my ranking of the best burger of my life, this burger was in the top three. If it was served anywhere I would eat it every time over the meat-based one. I want to go back to the point about population growth. The majority of the population are young, and they are driven by different values and ideals, we want to make sure that it is not hurting our environment and where it is sourced from. If you are in New Zealand and you go there are 2 million people out there who are looking for alternatives, that is a great economic argument alone. And. Both. China is looking at reducing the meat intake by 50% in 2030. They are doing it for climate change and health like diabetes. It is massive. I would have thought that artificial lab based food would be weird but you eat it and the arguments become compelling. You go this is a thing. The problem is that maybe all of this technology is going to pull the wool out from under our industry. I think when we look at how to enhance We have an explosion going on we have Memphis meets disrupting pork we have modern meadow being leather without the B. It is all being disrupted. We can do it in much better ways outside of the farm. Sounds quite dire but no one is suggesting that farmers should go out andclose the farm. It is not that it is happening now but it is something farmers should be thinking about. It is happening now. You can buy and create these burgers. You can have them in parallel. She is not entirely correct. A plant-based meat used only to grow the plants. Is it about us taking things like lamb and selling the story more. You look at coastal lamb which is a farmer that sell a story of farms growing and he is talking to Mitchell and chefs in Beijing and they pay heaps for that lamb. I agree we should do that, but then there are advances in stem cell grown meat. It is not in the restaurant today but the idea that you could create 3 million boomers of one cow through stem cells. Less animals are killed and then we get more protein. We are not saying because the future is changing we are not going to do education. It is not that we are not going to do farming at all. It is thinking about it differently. Bearing all that in mind ` would you invest $100 in synthetic meat or farming meat? Tell us what you think. Go to whatnext.nz, hit 'load next question'. This is my favourite bit because we get to talk to you. Steph said eating bugs might be one step too far but I would consider eating the bug flour. The chefs in the restaurants don't think that people will want a dish of crickets but it is how you can use the nutrients and make it into stuff people eat. All this was new to me as well. This is happening very fast. So, if they can make chickenless chicken, can they make milkless milk? And if they can, what does that mean for New Zealand? Our dairy industry is without doubt a hot topic. And farmers catch a hard time. They have carried our country economically all this way and if we are being honest, how many creeks can your kid's swim in the city. Is it the backbone of our economy but at the expense of ruining our environment? Rachel Stewart is a farmer through and through. She grew up on a farm and even became the boss of Federated Farmers for a few years, but she doubts our way of farming will survive the future. If NZ was to continue down the same road we're going now, that would tell me that not just the dairy industry but every industry in the country would be going down a road that would mean that we probably wouldn't be here. And I seriously mean that. I think with climate change, with the amount of people on the planet, in 20 years' time, I doubt very sincerely that we would be here. Certainly farming would be collapsing, because if you haven't got water for cows to even drink because it's not safe for them to drink, and let's face it, when water quality is going down the gurgler as it is, cows have to drink it too, so, yeah, I don't see a good future for us if we're on this track for too long. Rachel said she used to get a lot of grief from the industry, but now she feels her views are becoming more and more mainstream. But maybe we can dairy in an efficient way? Craig McKenzie's got a crop and dairy farm in North Canterbury ` around 1100 cows on 320ha, which is pretty intensive. The kind of farm that could get a bad reputation, but they do things responsibly and super high-tech. It's high-tech, precision farming. It's all about the science of data, computers, drones and sensors. Everything is mapped out. I can build a map in the office, send it to the machine via the cloud, and it will drop the fertilizer exactly beside the fence. If I want to avoid a waterway, then I actually build an exclusion zone beside that. Can't be in the wrong paddock. Can't put it in the wrong place. We've got 100% control of that machine. Do you still make a profit? Because usually people think that being sustainable means it's going to cost you, you're going to have to sacrifice stuff. Profitability has gone up. I'll give you an example. How we've managed to save 30% to 40% of the fertilizer at times, and sometimes greater than that of lime. Why would we put fertilizer on the areas that don't require it? So firstly, the environment wins because we're only putting on what we need. But also secondly, we're saving because we're not spending the money on fertilizer. I guess the only loser is maybe the fertilizer company. But they're actually on board as well because they want to see sustainability as well. Are you optimistic for us as a country in terms of dairy? I'm optimistic if we get it right and we actually want to make sure that we are sustainable. So sustainable intensification is fine. But intensification in its own right is not. So if we only go down the intensification track, then we're going to have a problem. And we need to be more sustainable in what we do today than what we probably have been in the past. We're all on this journey together, but I think there's a real opportunity, not necessarily producing more but just producing a lot smarter. We know what we've done in the past is probably not sustainable, and we need to move, and we are moving. Until I went to his farm, I didn't think you could farm that way. They are doing amazing things. So what we do? Everything. As the simple answer. We need to do sustainable farming because it gets it through today. We need to prepare bug farming because that reaches into tomorrow. And we need to explore the technology of synthetic and lab because that is also about tomorrow. And multi-strategies are the new black I think. But there is such an urgency. The National dairy herd is 130% increase in emissions since 1990. So we can't muck around. It is fantastic to see what he's doing but we need to scale that significantly. My family has a farm in the far north and that land is important to us. Much of the work is with Maori landowners who represent about 1/3 to 40% of the sheep and beef and forestry and fishing industries. This is a conversation were constantly having about how we can continue to be more environmentally sustainable because that is important to us as a culture and country. And what else can we embrace. I get encouraged when I see Maori landowners and others doing things like embracing sustainable land practices and moving to industries like hemp and other things that will offset that. There's a big European dairy farmers say that's produced PEa-based milk. And even our own dairy industry are saying we may be need diverse If the technology can produce synthetic milk at a low cost, we might have to be part of it as well, and I refer back to the dairy sector in New Zealand being prepared to embrace having margarine as part of our offering, even though by far the bulk of what we did was based around butter selling alongside it. So you never say never to these things, and I think the sector has to always be thinking of what are the potential disruptors and getting in the driving seat of making the right things happen. So we have done it before. We have done margarine. There is already milk without milk. Armond rice and coconut milk and people are starting to look felt turn adults. Alternatives. And we need to go that same way. Such as with the example of the carpets. It is the whole thing of having to look into the future and coming up with a plan. So, New Zealand, with all the disruption headed our way and the pressure on the environment, do you think farming will be a vital part of New Zealand's future? Please go to answer the question. Thank you for your feedback. Alex from Auckland says... but here is the thing. I would guarantee you that you tried the chicken you might shift to. Let's have a look at whether you'd invest $100 in synthetic meat or farming? This is long-term. And over half. Approaching two thirds. They have an eye to the future. And that is what they say about Kiwis. It might not be a natural thing but we are forwardthinking. And that could be a thing we try. Thank you for those participating Next ` climate change. It's been described as the greatest existential threat humanity has ever faced, but we look at a New Zealand solution. Welcome back. So now let's turn to what some have said is the greatest threat of our time ` climate change. The University Of Auckland's Attitudes and Values Study is a gigantic longitudinal study that has the responses of nearly 20,000 New Zealanders that has the responses of nearly 15,000 New Zealanders over the last nine years. And that study has asked, 'Do you believe in climate change?' 84% of New Zealanders agree that climate change is real, which, for me, is really encouraging because that shows we put our faith in science. And also three-quarters of us think this climate change is created by humans, which if you think about it, is actually great news ` if humans did it then perhaps we can undo it. I will get outraged emails from people who do not believe in climate change, It's not really controversial any more. Even the fossil fuel industry isn't contesting the idea of climate change. The world simply can't continue to consume fossil fuels at the rate that it is. From an environmental perspective, it can't afford that. So we need to be part of the transition to a lower carbon future. We believe there is clear evidence around climate change. We believe that humanity is affected by that. We believe that companies like ourselves contribute to the acceleration of climate change. This requires everybody, every country, every business, every household to do their bit towards climate change. Z have just built a $26 million bio-diesel plant, putting their money where their mouth is. So what will the impact of climate change be on New Zealand? Mike is a sustainability leader. But as a country we need to put what they selling out of business. We need all electric vehicles within 10 years. That is one of our main contributors to carbon. The average Kiwi spends $200 a month of petrol. We import $8 billion a year worth of fuel. We should move to electronic vehicles within 5 to 7 years. We can't is have a single bullet for climate change ever. Climate change is our collective responsibility. We all have to do something. It doesn't matter whether we are picking that solution because it is cheaper, better or more environmentally sustainable. Whatever emotions we just need to act. This is big. You are nodding Wendy. It is massive. It is urban and rural New Zealand. It is all of us. What is our rural and urban split. 55% of people live in cities. We are 80% urban in New Zealand. So we think of ourselves as a rural country but we live in the cities. So can we do something about climate change? Can we do anything about it? Because 85% of us are really concerned that as the temperature rises, one of the many disastrous results of that will be that cities like Wellington end up underwater, which is pretty freaking alarming. But don't give up hope just yet, because one of New Zealand's most successful business leaders thinks there are real solutions. Philip Mills is the owner of Les Mills Gyms, a global success story. He's in New Zealand's top 100 rich list. But there's not much use having money if there's no planet left! And he reckons the time to deal with climate change is now. I think that it is necessary to understand the urgency of the problem. We will hit 1� degrees warming over pre-industrial times by 2020, mid-2021 at the latest, and that really is the safe limit. Past that, when you get to 2 degrees, you really have a very different world. Eventually a lot of the world s biggest cities will be underwater. It's not a place that we can live. We don't know whether that's going to happen in 2030 or 2050. My bet, looking at the way the science is going, it's going to be closer to 2030. I can only be optimistic. I think that humans are wonderful, resourceful people who care about each other and who want to make the world a better place, and I think that we will beat these big problems. One of the real simple things that we can do to beat climate change is to plant a lot more trees ` a hell of a lot more trees. 10 billion trees will delay 1� degrees by 10 years. 10 billion is not a lot of trees. You're talking about not much more than one tree for every human. India, in one day last year, managed to plant 50 million trees. So, Stephanie, how many trees will you plant today? We're looking to plant about 3500 trees today. What happens if we don't do stuff like this? If we simply don't plant enough trees? These things are happening faster than we can repair them, and if we don't do something now, well, it's going to be too late. Now. Right now. Really? Because we do tend to think like, 'Oh, we'll just make it go back to how it was.' But that might not be achievable if you let it go beyond that point. In New Zealand, if we were to simply plant all of our 1.3 million hectares of erosion-prone land and all of the shelter belts, we would move ourselves well back to being probably carbon neutral. Certainly we'd move ourselves back to pre-1990 status. It is all about carbon as a pollution. Climate change is one of those terms we can ignore. We have a system of putting carbon into. Carbon is the polluter and the polluter should pay. We should put it into the agriculture industry. When a consumer goes into the supermarket and sees the dairy milk and the arm and milk, they can make the decision. Then it is just like any other market. It is like tobacco. We can make decisions. You let the price rule. Then you get innovation because people want to come into those markets and it might be the dairy industry decide to be really innovative. And we need them to be. We want them to be. We want a farming commodity and industry. This is big stuff. So too is what Derek was saying about fossil fuels. If we eliminate their use in New Zealand we do good things for the environment and save $8 billion a year. Derek isn't alone in saying that. He has support from an industry quarter. You know, we can actually survive without fossil fuels. People see this as the scary end of the world and the wealth that we have, and that's nonsense, particularly for a country like NZ with so much biomass, so much ability to grow trees and plants that we can turn into all the very things that we take for granted that we currently produced from fossil fuels. We have the know-how. We have the resources. I think we've got the smart minds. I think we just need the intent, the strategy, the political will, and, I guess, an informed public demanding that this is the direction of travel we take. Let's talk about the stuff. Sacha? It's big. We are talking about a whole lot of stuff that we have never really discussed seriously before. And it is coming at us fast. This is the point that Francis makes this is a choice between plan a and Plan B. Plan a is happening. Our biggest industries making the biggest changes they have faced in the 21st century is what we are talking about. I believe in the agricultural sector to do that. We owe a great debt to them as a nation. That sector, despite having lots of sunk costs, has been really agile over history. They have converted from uses on their land and if the price is right to the agricultural sector can convert again. As we see the system change and as we aspire to be fossil fuel free the power of the consumer and this show is all about highlighting that through participation is going to become the most important influence. That is fantastic. Thank you all so much. So, do you think you can personally help fight climate change? Go to whatnext.nz, hit the 'load next question' button and add your voice to the conversation. The great thing is we are still talking. People are adding their voice. Eden says... I think in part that is what the discussion is about. You look at how people are voting. Let's have a look at whether you think farming will be a part of New Zealand's future. It is 80 across the board. It is how we still see ourselves. But I hope we start to think about the shape and form of that farming. Thank you all for participating. Next, we're going to pull all your answers together and look how New Zealand wants to move forward with these big environmental questions. They are life changing. 1 It's not OK to say she was asking for it. It's not OK to punch a hole in a wall to show your family who's boss. Or think you can demand their love and respect. And it's not OK to look the other way and say it's not our problem. Because it is our problem. And it's not OK. Ever. But it is OK to ask for help. What will our environment look like in 2037? What is the most important thing that we need to take from this? A lot of people are saying we want to do something but can't as an individual. We need to be led from the top. I would really like to see the clean green image as something we can get traction with. We all have a vested interest in that. And what is the value of that image to New Zealand. I think people have power. The government make rules. But whether or not we turn off the lights or recycle it might seem like humble things to do but they matter. The conscious consumerism is important but is important we keep the pressure on the system change. We see that it does make a difference. I don't think we need a report or measuring hatthe value of clean green. Every New Zealander knows what it means our country. Too much politics are not enough vision. We need to commit with what we want to do with allies. It's great that we are having this conversation. What decisions can we make today. And that is what the series is about. You can hear more from the futurists live on Facebook after What Next finishes. We are seeing the interlocking of all these things. So do you think you can personally help fight climate change? 92% say yes. That is encouraging. Tonight, this is how you voted. We have four votes every night. Orange means Plan B. We value farming. They are saying farming is important. But we think we have an impact on climate change. Were not as sure on eating bugs. But we are considering new things. And how we use our land. Our last question ` do you want Plan A or Plan B for the future of our environment? Vote Plan A if you think that our environment is fine how it is, and vote Plan B if you think we need some new, bold ideas. We'll reveal the results of the last question and piece together New Zealand's vision for the future ` a roadmap for New Zealand 2037 ` on Thursday night. Tomorrow we're going to look at how your job and the economy is going to be impacted by all these changes. If you want to continue the conversation, head to Facebook now, where ` thanks to the support of University of Auckland ` we are hosting a live-stream think tank where our futurists will be talking more about what you have to say. See you live tomorrow at 8.30 to see what our jobs will look like in 2037. Captions by Antony Vlug and Ingrid Lauder. www.able.co.nz Captions were made with the support of NZ On Air. Copyright Able 2017