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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. 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And the appropriations adjourn until Tuesday, 3 August. And the appropriations debate. adjourn until Tuesday, 3 August. And the appropriations debate. Other the appropriations debate. Other legislation the appropriations debate. Other legislation to the appropriations debate. Other legislation to be the appropriations debate. Other legislation to be considered the appropriations debate. Other legislation to be considered will legislation to be considered will include legislation to be considered will include the legislation to be considered will include the committee legislation to be considered will include the committee stage legislation to be considered will include the committee stage of legislation to be considered will include the committee stage of the include the committee stage of the Reserve include the committee stage of the Reserve Bank include the committee stage of the Reserve Bank of include the committee stage of the Reserve Bank of New include the committee stage of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand include the committee stage of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand bill include the committee stage of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand bill and Reserve Bank of New Zealand bill and the Reserve Bank of New Zealand bill and the third Reserve Bank of New Zealand bill and the third reading Reserve Bank of New Zealand bill and the third reading of Reserve Bank of New Zealand bill and the third reading of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand bill and the third reading of the fair Reserve Bank of New Zealand bill and the third reading of the fair trade the third reading of the fair trade amendment. the third reading of the fair trade amendment. Wednesday the third reading of the fair trade amendment. Wednesday 4 the third reading of the fair trade amendment. Wednesday 4 August the third reading of the fair trade amendment. Wednesday 4 August will amendment. Wednesday 4 August will be amendment. Wednesday 4 August will be a amendment. Wednesday 4 August will be a member's amendment. Wednesday 4 August will be a member's day. amendment. Wednesday 4 August will be a member's day. I amendment. Wednesday 4 August will be a member's day. I call amendment. Wednesday 4 August will be a member's day. I call the amendment. Wednesday 4 August will be a member's day. I call the Hon be a member's day. I call the Hon Michael be a member's day. I call the Hon Michael Woodhouse. be a member's day. I call the Hon Michael Woodhouse. I be a member's day. I call the Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank be a member's day. I call the Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader Michael Woodhouse. 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Can I ask the acting leader if, in light of the acting leader if, in light of the the acting leader if, in light of the passage the acting leader if, in light of the passage of the acting leader if, in light of the passage of legislation the acting leader if, in light of the passage of legislation under the passage of legislation under urgency the passage of legislation under urgency this the passage of legislation under urgency this morning, the passage of legislation under urgency this morning, extending the passage of legislation under urgency this morning, extending the urgency this morning, extending the time urgency this morning, extending the time period urgency this morning, extending the time period for urgency this morning, extending the time period for reporting urgency this morning, extending the time period for reporting back urgency this morning, extending the time period for reporting back of time period for reporting back of certain time period for reporting back of certain Crown time period for reporting back of certain Crown entities time period for reporting back of certain Crown entities and time period for reporting back of certain Crown entities and local certain Crown entities and local Government certain Crown entities and local Government organisations, certain Crown entities and local Government organisations, whether certain Crown entities and local Government organisations, whether he Government organisations, whether he would Government organisations, whether he would recommend Government organisations, whether he would recommend to Government organisations, whether he would recommend to the Government organisations, whether he would recommend to the Business would recommend to the Business Committee would recommend to the Business Committee an would recommend to the Business Committee an extension would recommend to the Business Committee an extension in would recommend to the Business Committee an extension in time would recommend to the Business Committee an extension in time for Committee an extension in time for this Committee an extension in time for this House Committee an extension in time for this House to Committee an extension in time for this House to conduct Committee an extension in time for this House to conduct its Committee an extension in time for this House to conduct its annual this House to conduct its annual reviews this House to conduct its annual reviews after this House to conduct its annual reviews after that? this House to conduct its annual reviews after that? 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Ministers Ministers have Ministers have delivered Ministers have delivered papers. Ministers have delivered papers. Walking Ministers have delivered papers. Walking Access Ministers have delivered papers. Walking Access Ara Ministers have delivered papers. Walking Access Ara Hikoi Ministers have delivered papers. Walking Access Ara Hikoi Aotearoa Ministers have delivered papers. Walking Access Ara Hikoi Aotearoa o Walking Access Ara Hikoi Aotearoa o Statement Walking Access Ara Hikoi Aotearoa o Statement of Walking Access Ara Hikoi Aotearoa o Statement of Intent Walking Access Ara Hikoi Aotearoa o Statement of Intent 2021-2025 Walking Access Ara Hikoi Aotearoa o Statement of Intent 2021-2025 o Statement of Intent 2021-2025 o Statement Statement of Intent 2021-2025 o Statement of Statement of Intent 2021-2025 o Statement of Performance Statement of Performance Expectations Statement of Performance Expectations 2021-2022. Expectations 2021-2022. Waka Expectations 2021-2022. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Conservation: My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Is My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Is she My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Is she confident My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Is she confident that Conservation: Is she confident that the Conservation: Is she confident that the $1.1 Conservation: Is she confident that the $1.1 billion Conservation: Is she confident that the $1.1 billion nature-based Conservation: Is she confident that the $1.1 billion nature-based jobs the $1.1 billion nature-based jobs funding the $1.1 billion nature-based jobs funding will the $1.1 billion nature-based jobs funding will deliver the $1.1 billion nature-based jobs funding will deliver 11,000 the $1.1 billion nature-based jobs funding will deliver 11,000 jobs? The The Hon The Hon Kiritapu The Hon Kiritapu Allan. The Hon Kiritapu Allan. For The Hon Kiritapu Allan. For the The Hon Kiritapu Allan. For the components The Hon Kiritapu Allan. For the components that The Hon Kiritapu Allan. For the components that I The Hon Kiritapu Allan. For the components that I am The Hon Kiritapu Allan. For the components that I am responsible components that I am responsible for, components that I am responsible for, yes. components that I am responsible for, yes. Supplementary. components that I am responsible for, yes. Supplementary. What components that I am responsible for, yes. Supplementary. What is components that I am responsible for, yes. Supplementary. What is the for, yes. Supplementary. What is the total for, yes. Supplementary. What is the total number for, yes. Supplementary. What is the total number of for, yes. Supplementary. What is the total number of full for, yes. Supplementary. What is the total number of full time total number of full time equivalents total number of full time equivalents currently total number of full time equivalents currently employed total number of full time equivalents currently employed as total number of full time equivalents currently employed as a equivalents currently employed as a result equivalents currently employed as a result of equivalents currently employed as a result of the equivalents currently employed as a result of the $1.1 equivalents currently employed as a result of the $1.1 billion equivalents currently employed as a result of the $1.1 billion Jobs equivalents currently employed as a result of the $1.1 billion Jobs for result of the $1.1 billion Jobs for Nature result of the $1.1 billion Jobs for Nature Programme? result of the $1.1 billion Jobs for Nature Programme? Mr result of the $1.1 billion Jobs for Nature Programme? Mr Speaker. result of the $1.1 billion Jobs for Nature Programme? Mr Speaker. 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That Conservation component. That component Conservation component. That component comprises Conservation component. That component comprises $501 Conservation component. That component comprises $501 million Conservation component. 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Which DHBs, if any, have had to manage DHBs, if any, have had to manage admitted DHBs, if any, have had to manage admitted patients DHBs, if any, have had to manage admitted patients in DHBs, if any, have had to manage admitted patients in hospital admitted patients in hospital corridors admitted patients in hospital corridors in admitted patients in hospital corridors in the admitted patients in hospital corridors in the past admitted patients in hospital corridors in the past month admitted patients in hospital corridors in the past month due admitted patients in hospital corridors in the past month due to corridors in the past month due to demand. corridors in the past month due to demand. The corridors in the past month due to demand. The district corridors in the past month due to demand. The district health corridors in the past month due to demand. The district health boards, demand. The district health boards, they demand. The district health boards, they are demand. The district health boards, they are to demand. The district health boards, they are to make demand. The district health boards, they are to make sure demand. The district health boards, they are to make sure that demand. The district health boards, they are to make sure that they they are to make sure that they provide they are to make sure that they provide the they are to make sure that they provide the services they are to make sure that they provide the services needed. they are to make sure that they provide the services needed. It they are to make sure that they provide the services needed. It is provide the services needed. It is not provide the services needed. It is not uncommon provide the services needed. It is not uncommon for provide the services needed. It is not uncommon for there provide the services needed. It is not uncommon for there to provide the services needed. It is not uncommon for there to be provide the services needed. It is not uncommon for there to be winter not uncommon for there to be winter spikes not uncommon for there to be winter spikes in not uncommon for there to be winter spikes in infections. not uncommon for there to be winter spikes in infections. The not uncommon for there to be winter spikes in infections. The DHBs not uncommon for there to be winter spikes in infections. The DHBs plan spikes in infections. The DHBs plan for spikes in infections. The DHBs plan for that, spikes in infections. The DHBs plan for that, are spikes in infections. The DHBs plan for that, are prepared spikes in infections. The DHBs plan for that, are prepared for spikes in infections. The DHBs plan for that, are prepared for that spikes in infections. 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Supplementary. needing their help because of RSV. Supplementary. How needing their help because of RSV. Supplementary. How many needing their help because of RSV. Supplementary. How many of needing their help because of RSV. Supplementary. How many of the needing their help because of RSV. Supplementary. How many of the 11 Supplementary. How many of the 11 sick Supplementary. How many of the 11 sick babies, Supplementary. How many of the 11 sick babies, if Supplementary. How many of the 11 sick babies, if any, Supplementary. How many of the 11 sick babies, if any, are Supplementary. How many of the 11 sick babies, if any, are still Supplementary. How many of the 11 sick babies, if any, are still being sick babies, if any, are still being cared sick babies, if any, are still being cared for sick babies, if any, are still being cared for in sick babies, if any, are still being cared for in a sick babies, if any, are still being cared for in a play sick babies, if any, are still being cared for in a play room sick babies, if any, are still being cared for in a play room at cared for in a play room at Middlemore cared for in a play room at Middlemore hospital cared for in a play room at Middlemore hospital as cared for in a play room at Middlemore hospital as reported cared for in a play room at Middlemore hospital as reported last Middlemore hospital as reported last week? Middlemore hospital as reported last week? As Middlemore hospital as reported last week? As I Middlemore hospital as reported last week? As I understand Middlemore hospital as reported last week? As I understand it, Middlemore hospital as reported last week? 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Supplementary. What is the infection. Supplementary. What is the Government's infection. Supplementary. What is the Government's plan, infection. Supplementary. What is the Government's plan, if infection. Supplementary. What is the Government's plan, if any, infection. Supplementary. What is the Government's plan, if any, for the Government's plan, if any, for the the Government's plan, if any, for the growing the Government's plan, if any, for the growing number the Government's plan, if any, for the growing number of the Government's plan, if any, for the growing number of children the growing number of children presenting the growing number of children presenting with the growing number of children presenting with respiratory the growing number of children presenting with respiratory virus, presenting with respiratory virus, RSV? presenting with respiratory virus, RSV? Mr presenting with respiratory virus, RSV? Mr Speaker, presenting with respiratory virus, RSV? Mr Speaker, governments presenting with respiratory virus, RSV? Mr Speaker, governments don't RSV? Mr Speaker, governments don't take RSV? Mr Speaker, governments don't take clinical RSV? Mr Speaker, governments don't take clinical decisions RSV? Mr Speaker, governments don't take clinical decisions on take clinical decisions on particular take clinical decisions on particular infections. take clinical decisions on particular infections. But take clinical decisions on particular infections. But what take clinical decisions on particular infections. But what we particular infections. But what we do particular infections. But what we do is particular infections. But what we do is make particular infections. But what we do is make sure particular infections. But what we do is make sure that particular infections. But what we do is make sure that we particular infections. 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What previous government. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. What actions, previous government. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. What actions, if previous government. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. What actions, if any, Supplementary. What actions, if any, has Supplementary. What actions, if any, has he Supplementary. What actions, if any, has he taken Supplementary. What actions, if any, has he taken to Supplementary. What actions, if any, has he taken to improve Supplementary. What actions, if any, has he taken to improve the Supplementary. What actions, if any, has he taken to improve the safety has he taken to improve the safety ratios has he taken to improve the safety ratios in has he taken to improve the safety ratios in our has he taken to improve the safety ratios in our hospitals has he taken to improve the safety ratios in our hospitals -- ratios in our hospitals -- nurse-to-patient ratios in our hospitals -- nurse-to-patient safety ratios in our hospitals -- nurse-to-patient safety ratios ratios in our hospitals -- nurse-to-patient safety ratios as nurse-to-patient safety ratios as they nurse-to-patient safety ratios as they come nurse-to-patient safety ratios as they come under nurse-to-patient safety ratios as they come under increasing nurse-to-patient safety ratios as they come under increasing pressure they come under increasing pressure from they come under increasing pressure from winter they come under increasing pressure from winter illness? they come under increasing pressure from winter illness? 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Unlike the previous Government, this Government previous Government, this Government entered previous Government, this Government entered into previous Government, this Government entered into an previous Government, this Government entered into an agreement previous Government, this Government entered into an agreement with previous Government, this Government entered into an agreement with the entered into an agreement with the DHB entered into an agreement with the DHB and entered into an agreement with the DHB and with entered into an agreement with the DHB and with the entered into an agreement with the DHB and with the New entered into an agreement with the DHB and with the New Zealand entered into an agreement with the DHB and with the New Zealand Nurse's DHB and with the New Zealand Nurse's Organisation DHB and with the New Zealand Nurse's Organisation to DHB and with the New Zealand Nurse's Organisation to look DHB and with the New Zealand Nurse's Organisation to look at DHB and with the New Zealand Nurse's Organisation to look at safe Organisation to look at safe staffing Organisation to look at safe staffing levels Organisation to look at safe staffing levels to Organisation to look at safe staffing levels to implement Organisation to look at safe staffing levels to implement a staffing levels to implement a programme staffing levels to implement a programme called staffing levels to implement a programme called Care staffing levels to implement a programme called Care Capacity programme called Care Capacity Demand programme called Care Capacity Demand Management. programme called Care Capacity Demand Management. 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But this is a Government that are left to go. But this is a Government that takes are left to go. But this is a Government that takes seriously are left to go. But this is a Government that takes seriously the Government that takes seriously the concerns Government that takes seriously the concerns by Government that takes seriously the concerns by our Government that takes seriously the concerns by our health Government that takes seriously the concerns by our health workforce Government that takes seriously the concerns by our health workforce who concerns by our health workforce who were concerns by our health workforce who were neglected concerns by our health workforce who were neglected by concerns by our health workforce who were neglected by the concerns by our health workforce who were neglected by the previous were neglected by the previous Government. were neglected by the previous Government. <INTERRUPTION> Government. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. 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Do DHBs have enough funding to cope with the current funding to cope with the current surge funding to cope with the current surge in funding to cope with the current surge in demand funding to cope with the current surge in demand to funding to cope with the current surge in demand to illnesses funding to cope with the current surge in demand to illnesses like surge in demand to illnesses like RSV, surge in demand to illnesses like RSV, given surge in demand to illnesses like RSV, given this surge in demand to illnesses like RSV, given this year's surge in demand to illnesses like RSV, given this year's Budget surge in demand to illnesses like RSV, given this year's Budget cut RSV, given this year's Budget cut operational RSV, given this year's Budget cut operational DHB RSV, given this year's Budget cut operational DHB funding RSV, given this year's Budget cut operational DHB funding by RSV, given this year's Budget cut operational DHB funding by 30% operational DHB funding by 30% compared operational DHB funding by 30% compared to operational DHB funding by 30% compared to last operational DHB funding by 30% compared to last year? operational DHB funding by 30% compared to last year? 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And when you look at that party and And when you look at that party and Government's And when you look at that party and Government's track And when you look at that party and Government's track record And when you look at that party and Government's track record of And when you look at that party and Government's track record of funding Government's track record of funding hospitals Government's track record of funding hospitals compared Government's track record of funding hospitals compared to Government's track record of funding hospitals compared to ours, Government's track record of funding hospitals compared to ours, it hospitals compared to ours, it simply hospitals compared to ours, it simply does hospitals compared to ours, it simply does not hospitals compared to ours, it simply does not compare. hospitals compared to ours, it simply does not compare. So hospitals compared to ours, it simply does not compare. So we simply does not compare. 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The average level of increase by the previous level of increase by the previous Government level of increase by the previous Government was level of increase by the previous Government was roughly level of increase by the previous Government was roughly about level of increase by the previous Government was roughly about 1%. 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The measures have seen the recovery faster than expected. The ratings faster than expected. The ratings agency faster than expected. The ratings agency expects faster than expected. The ratings agency expects New faster than expected. The ratings agency expects New Zealand faster than expected. The ratings agency expects New Zealand to agency expects New Zealand to outpace agency expects New Zealand to outpace its agency expects New Zealand to outpace its peers agency expects New Zealand to outpace its peers in agency expects New Zealand to outpace its peers in the agency expects New Zealand to outpace its peers in the Pacific outpace its peers in the Pacific noting outpace its peers in the Pacific noting that outpace its peers in the Pacific noting that economic outpace its peers in the Pacific noting that economic activity outpace its peers in the Pacific noting that economic activity has noting that economic activity has returned noting that economic activity has returned to noting that economic activity has returned to the noting that economic activity has returned to the pre-pandemic noting that economic activity has returned to the pre-pandemic trend returned to the pre-pandemic trend in returned to the pre-pandemic trend in early returned to the pre-pandemic trend in early 2021 returned to the pre-pandemic trend in early 2021 making returned to the pre-pandemic trend in early 2021 making New returned to the pre-pandemic trend in early 2021 making New Zealand returned to the pre-pandemic trend in early 2021 making New Zealand one in early 2021 making New Zealand one of in early 2021 making New Zealand one of the in early 2021 making New Zealand one of the first in early 2021 making New Zealand one of the first countries in early 2021 making New Zealand one of the first countries to in early 2021 making New Zealand one of the first countries to do in early 2021 making New Zealand one of the first countries to do so. of the first countries to do so. Supplementary. of the first countries to do so. Supplementary. What of the first countries to do so. Supplementary. What impact of the first countries to do so. Supplementary. What impact has of the first countries to do so. Supplementary. What impact has the Supplementary. What impact has the economy's Supplementary. What impact has the economy's recovery Supplementary. What impact has the economy's recovery had Supplementary. What impact has the economy's recovery had on Supplementary. What impact has the economy's recovery had on the Supplementary. What impact has the economy's recovery had on the labour economy's recovery had on the labour market? economy's recovery had on the labour market? The economy's recovery had on the labour market? The Government's economy's recovery had on the labour market? The Government's efforts economy's recovery had on the labour market? The Government's efforts to market? The Government's efforts to secure market? The Government's efforts to secure the market? The Government's efforts to secure the recovery market? The Government's efforts to secure the recovery are market? The Government's efforts to secure the recovery are reflected market? The Government's efforts to secure the recovery are reflected in secure the recovery are reflected in the secure the recovery are reflected in the jobs secure the recovery are reflected in the jobs market, secure the recovery are reflected in the jobs market, which secure the recovery are reflected in the jobs market, which is secure the recovery are reflected in the jobs market, which is going secure the recovery are reflected in the jobs market, which is going from the jobs market, which is going from strength-to-strength. the jobs market, which is going from strength-to-strength. The the jobs market, which is going from strength-to-strength. The SEEK strength-to-strength. The SEEK Employment strength-to-strength. The SEEK Employment New strength-to-strength. The SEEK Employment New Zealand strength-to-strength. The SEEK Employment New Zealand report Employment New Zealand report increased Employment New Zealand report increased by Employment New Zealand report increased by 1% Employment New Zealand report increased by 1% in Employment New Zealand report increased by 1% in June Employment New Zealand report increased by 1% in June from Employment New Zealand report increased by 1% in June from the increased by 1% in June from the previous increased by 1% in June from the previous month increased by 1% in June from the previous month to increased by 1% in June from the previous month to another increased by 1% in June from the previous month to another record previous month to another record high. previous month to another record high. For previous month to another record high. For the previous month to another record high. For the year, previous month to another record high. For the year, job previous month to another record high. For the year, job ads previous month to another record high. For the year, job ads rose high. For the year, job ads rose 115% high. For the year, job ads rose 115% while high. For the year, job ads rose 115% while trying high. For the year, job ads rose 115% while trying to high. For the year, job ads rose 115% while trying to have high. For the year, job ads rose 115% while trying to have numbers 115% while trying to have numbers above 115% while trying to have numbers above pre-COVID. 115% while trying to have numbers above pre-COVID. You 115% while trying to have numbers above pre-COVID. You don't 115% while trying to have numbers above pre-COVID. You don't want 115% while trying to have numbers above pre-COVID. You don't want to above pre-COVID. You don't want to go above pre-COVID. You don't want to go there. above pre-COVID. You don't want to go there. On above pre-COVID. You don't want to go there. On a above pre-COVID. You don't want to go there. On a trend above pre-COVID. You don't want to go there. On a trend basis, above pre-COVID. You don't want to go there. On a trend basis, job above pre-COVID. You don't want to go there. On a trend basis, job ads go there. On a trend basis, job ads were go there. On a trend basis, job ads were above go there. On a trend basis, job ads were above that. go there. On a trend basis, job ads were above that. Unemployment go there. On a trend basis, job ads were above that. Unemployment has were above that. Unemployment has fallen were above that. Unemployment has fallen to were above that. Unemployment has fallen to 4.7% were above that. Unemployment has fallen to 4.7% and were above that. Unemployment has fallen to 4.7% and while were above that. Unemployment has fallen to 4.7% and while there were above that. Unemployment has fallen to 4.7% and while there are fallen to 4.7% and while there are challenges fallen to 4.7% and while there are challenges for fallen to 4.7% and while there are challenges for businesses fallen to 4.7% and while there are challenges for businesses in fallen to 4.7% and while there are challenges for businesses in finding challenges for businesses in finding worker, challenges for businesses in finding worker, this challenges for businesses in finding worker, this is, challenges for businesses in finding worker, this is, in challenges for businesses in finding worker, this is, in fact, challenges for businesses in finding worker, this is, in fact, a worker, this is, in fact, a reflection worker, this is, in fact, a reflection of worker, this is, in fact, a reflection of a worker, this is, in fact, a reflection of a stronger worker, this is, in fact, a reflection of a stronger than reflection of a stronger than forecast reflection of a stronger than forecast economic reflection of a stronger than forecast economic activity reflection of a stronger than forecast economic activity and reflection of a stronger than forecast economic activity and the forecast economic activity and the economy forecast economic activity and the economy operating forecast economic activity and the economy operating above forecast economic activity and the economy operating above pre-COVID. economy operating above pre-COVID. The economy operating above pre-COVID. The Government economy operating above pre-COVID. The Government will economy operating above pre-COVID. The Government will continue economy operating above pre-COVID. The Government will continue to economy operating above pre-COVID. The Government will continue to work The Government will continue to work with The Government will continue to work with businesses The Government will continue to work with businesses to The Government will continue to work with businesses to support The Government will continue to work with businesses to support them The Government will continue to work with businesses to support them as with businesses to support them as the with businesses to support them as the recovery with businesses to support them as the recovery continues. with businesses to support them as the recovery continues. Further the recovery continues. Further supplementary. the recovery continues. Further supplementary. What the recovery continues. Further supplementary. What other the recovery continues. Further supplementary. What other reports supplementary. What other reports has supplementary. What other reports has he supplementary. What other reports has he seen supplementary. What other reports has he seen on supplementary. What other reports has he seen on the supplementary. What other reports has he seen on the New supplementary. What other reports has he seen on the New Zealand has he seen on the New Zealand economy? has he seen on the New Zealand economy? The has he seen on the New Zealand economy? The latest has he seen on the New Zealand economy? The latest global has he seen on the New Zealand economy? The latest global dairy economy? The latest global dairy trade economy? The latest global dairy trade shows economy? The latest global dairy trade shows prices economy? The latest global dairy trade shows prices are economy? The latest global dairy trade shows prices are consolidating trade shows prices are consolidating and trade shows prices are consolidating and declining trade shows prices are consolidating and declining 3.6%. trade shows prices are consolidating and declining 3.6%. The trade shows prices are consolidating and declining 3.6%. The easing trade shows prices are consolidating and declining 3.6%. The easing in and declining 3.6%. The easing in prices and declining 3.6%. The easing in prices comes and declining 3.6%. The easing in prices comes after and declining 3.6%. The easing in prices comes after strong and declining 3.6%. The easing in prices comes after strong gains prices comes after strong gains earlier prices comes after strong gains earlier in prices comes after strong gains earlier in the prices comes after strong gains earlier in the year prices comes after strong gains earlier in the year which prices comes after strong gains earlier in the year which is prices comes after strong gains earlier in the year which is in prices comes after strong gains earlier in the year which is in turn earlier in the year which is in turn due earlier in the year which is in turn due to earlier in the year which is in turn due to robust earlier in the year which is in turn due to robust demand. earlier in the year which is in turn due to robust demand. Economists earlier in the year which is in turn due to robust demand. Economists are due to robust demand. Economists are saying due to robust demand. Economists are saying that due to robust demand. Economists are saying that the due to robust demand. Economists are saying that the decline due to robust demand. Economists are saying that the decline in due to robust demand. Economists are saying that the decline in prices due to robust demand. Economists are saying that the decline in prices is saying that the decline in prices is partly saying that the decline in prices is partly due saying that the decline in prices is partly due to saying that the decline in prices is partly due to strong saying that the decline in prices is partly due to strong milk saying that the decline in prices is partly due to strong milk production partly due to strong milk production rising partly due to strong milk production rising 9.3% partly due to strong milk production rising 9.3% in partly due to strong milk production rising 9.3% in May partly due to strong milk production rising 9.3% in May compared partly due to strong milk production rising 9.3% in May compared to partly due to strong milk production rising 9.3% in May compared to the rising 9.3% in May compared to the same rising 9.3% in May compared to the same month rising 9.3% in May compared to the same month a rising 9.3% in May compared to the same month a year rising 9.3% in May compared to the same month a year ago. rising 9.3% in May compared to the same month a year ago. For rising 9.3% in May compared to the same month a year ago. For the same month a year ago. For the entire same month a year ago. For the entire 2021 same month a year ago. For the entire 2021 season, same month a year ago. For the entire 2021 season, production same month a year ago. For the entire 2021 season, production rose entire 2021 season, production rose 2.7%. entire 2021 season, production rose 2.7%. They entire 2021 season, production rose 2.7%. They expect entire 2021 season, production rose 2.7%. They expect farmers entire 2021 season, production rose 2.7%. They expect farmers to entire 2021 season, production rose 2.7%. They expect farmers to retain 2.7%. They expect farmers to retain the 2.7%. They expect farmers to retain the historic 2.7%. They expect farmers to retain the historic highs 2.7%. They expect farmers to retain the historic highs in 2.7%. They expect farmers to retain the historic highs in the 2.7%. They expect farmers to retain the historic highs in the new 2.7%. They expect farmers to retain the historic highs in the new season the historic highs in the new season which the historic highs in the new season which is the historic highs in the new season which is positive the historic highs in the new season which is positive for the historic highs in the new season which is positive for farm the historic highs in the new season which is positive for farm incomes which is positive for farm incomes and which is positive for farm incomes and positive which is positive for farm incomes and positive for which is positive for farm incomes and positive for the which is positive for farm incomes and positive for the regions which is positive for farm incomes and positive for the regions and and positive for the regions and positive and positive for the regions and positive for and positive for the regions and positive for the and positive for the regions and positive for the economy and positive for the regions and positive for the economy overall. positive for the economy overall. Question positive for the economy overall. Question No. positive for the economy overall. Question No. 4 positive for the economy overall. Question No. 4 in positive for the economy overall. Question No. 4 in the positive for the economy overall. Question No. 4 in the name positive for the economy overall. Question No. 4 in the name of positive for the economy overall. Question No. 4 in the name of Andrew Question No. 4 in the name of Andrew Bayly. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Revenue: My question is to the Minister of Revenue: Does My question is to the Minister of Revenue: Does he My question is to the Minister of Revenue: Does he stand My question is to the Minister of Revenue: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister of Revenue: Does he stand by the Revenue: Does he stand by the Minister Revenue: Does he stand by the Minister of Revenue: Does he stand by the Minister of Finance's Revenue: Does he stand by the Minister of Finance's statement Revenue: Does he stand by the Minister of Finance's statement on Minister of Finance's statement on 23 Minister of Finance's statement on 23 March Minister of Finance's statement on 23 March 2021 Minister of Finance's statement on 23 March 2021 that Minister of Finance's statement on 23 March 2021 that deducting 23 March 2021 that deducting interest 23 March 2021 that deducting interest expenses 23 March 2021 that deducting interest expenses from 23 March 2021 that deducting interest expenses from rental 23 March 2021 that deducting interest expenses from rental income interest expenses from rental income is interest expenses from rental income is a interest expenses from rental income is a "tax interest expenses from rental income is a "tax loophole", interest expenses from rental income is a "tax loophole", and interest expenses from rental income is a "tax loophole", and what is a "tax loophole", and what assurances, is a "tax loophole", and what assurances, if is a "tax loophole", and what assurances, if any, is a "tax loophole", and what assurances, if any, has is a "tax loophole", and what assurances, if any, has he is a "tax loophole", and what assurances, if any, has he sought assurances, if any, has he sought that assurances, if any, has he sought that increasing assurances, if any, has he sought that increasing tax assurances, if any, has he sought that increasing tax on assurances, if any, has he sought that increasing tax on landlords that increasing tax on landlords won't that increasing tax on landlords won't lead that increasing tax on landlords won't lead to that increasing tax on landlords won't lead to renters that increasing tax on landlords won't lead to renters being that increasing tax on landlords won't lead to renters being forced won't lead to renters being forced out won't lead to renters being forced out of won't lead to renters being forced out of their won't lead to renters being forced out of their homes? Yes. Yes. And Yes. And as Yes. And as landlords Yes. And as landlords who Yes. And as landlords who invest Yes. And as landlords who invest in Yes. And as landlords who invest in new Yes. And as landlords who invest in new homes Yes. And as landlords who invest in new homes will Yes. And as landlords who invest in new homes will be Yes. And as landlords who invest in new homes will be able Yes. And as landlords who invest in new homes will be able to Yes. And as landlords who invest in new homes will be able to deduct new homes will be able to deduct interest new homes will be able to deduct interest expenses, new homes will be able to deduct interest expenses, the new homes will be able to deduct interest expenses, the premise new homes will be able to deduct interest expenses, the premise of interest expenses, the premise of the interest expenses, the premise of the second interest expenses, the premise of the second part interest expenses, the premise of the second part of interest expenses, the premise of the second part of the interest expenses, the premise of the second part of the member's the second part of the member's question the second part of the member's question is the second part of the member's question is incorrect. question is incorrect. Supplementary. question is incorrect. Supplementary. Does question is incorrect. Supplementary. Does he question is incorrect. Supplementary. Does he agree question is incorrect. Supplementary. Does he agree with Supplementary. Does he agree with the Supplementary. Does he agree with the official Supplementary. Does he agree with the official advice Supplementary. Does he agree with the official advice that Supplementary. Does he agree with the official advice that 75% Supplementary. Does he agree with the official advice that 75% of the official advice that 75% of renters the official advice that 75% of renters can't the official advice that 75% of renters can't afford the official advice that 75% of renters can't afford to the official advice that 75% of renters can't afford to service the official advice that 75% of renters can't afford to service a renters can't afford to service a mortgage? renters can't afford to service a mortgage? And, renters can't afford to service a mortgage? And, as renters can't afford to service a mortgage? And, as a renters can't afford to service a mortgage? And, as a result renters can't afford to service a mortgage? And, as a result of renters can't afford to service a mortgage? And, as a result of the mortgage? And, as a result of the policy mortgage? And, as a result of the policy changes, mortgage? And, as a result of the policy changes, "the mortgage? And, as a result of the policy changes, "the most mortgage? And, as a result of the policy changes, "the most vulnerable policy changes, "the most vulnerable group policy changes, "the most vulnerable group in policy changes, "the most vulnerable group in our policy changes, "the most vulnerable group in our housing policy changes, "the most vulnerable group in our housing group", policy changes, "the most vulnerable group in our housing group", now group in our housing group", now face group in our housing group", now face the group in our housing group", now face the risk group in our housing group", now face the risk of group in our housing group", now face the risk of having group in our housing group", now face the risk of having their face the risk of having their tenancies face the risk of having their tenancies terminated. face the risk of having their tenancies terminated. And face the risk of having their tenancies terminated. And if face the risk of having their tenancies terminated. And if not, tenancies terminated. And if not, why tenancies terminated. And if not, why not? tenancies terminated. And if not, why not? I tenancies terminated. And if not, why not? I do tenancies terminated. And if not, why not? I do agree tenancies terminated. And if not, why not? I do agree that tenancies terminated. And if not, why not? I do agree that renters why not? I do agree that renters generally why not? I do agree that renters generally cannot why not? I do agree that renters generally cannot afford why not? I do agree that renters generally cannot afford a why not? I do agree that renters generally cannot afford a mortgage, generally cannot afford a mortgage, otherwise, generally cannot afford a mortgage, otherwise, most generally cannot afford a mortgage, otherwise, most of generally cannot afford a mortgage, otherwise, most of them generally cannot afford a mortgage, otherwise, most of them would generally cannot afford a mortgage, otherwise, most of them would choose otherwise, most of them would choose to otherwise, most of them would choose to buy otherwise, most of them would choose to buy a otherwise, most of them would choose to buy a house otherwise, most of them would choose to buy a house rather otherwise, most of them would choose to buy a house rather than otherwise, most of them would choose to buy a house rather than rent otherwise, most of them would choose to buy a house rather than rent it. to buy a house rather than rent it. But to buy a house rather than rent it. But in to buy a house rather than rent it. But in respect to buy a house rather than rent it. But in respect of to buy a house rather than rent it. But in respect of the to buy a house rather than rent it. But in respect of the idea to buy a house rather than rent it. But in respect of the idea that to buy a house rather than rent it. But in respect of the idea that this But in respect of the idea that this rule But in respect of the idea that this rule is But in respect of the idea that this rule is somehow But in respect of the idea that this rule is somehow going But in respect of the idea that this rule is somehow going to But in respect of the idea that this rule is somehow going to decrease rule is somehow going to decrease housing rule is somehow going to decrease housing stock, rule is somehow going to decrease housing stock, it's rule is somehow going to decrease housing stock, it's a rule is somehow going to decrease housing stock, it's a nonsense housing stock, it's a nonsense argument, housing stock, it's a nonsense argument, because housing stock, it's a nonsense argument, because if housing stock, it's a nonsense argument, because if a housing stock, it's a nonsense argument, because if a landlord housing stock, it's a nonsense argument, because if a landlord did argument, because if a landlord did choose argument, because if a landlord did choose to argument, because if a landlord did choose to sell argument, because if a landlord did choose to sell a argument, because if a landlord did choose to sell a house, argument, because if a landlord did choose to sell a house, it argument, because if a landlord did choose to sell a house, it would choose to sell a house, it would either choose to sell a house, it would either be choose to sell a house, it would either be to choose to sell a house, it would either be to an choose to sell a house, it would either be to an owner-occupier. choose to sell a house, it would either be to an owner-occupier. That either be to an owner-occupier. That owner-occupier either be to an owner-occupier. That owner-occupier would either be to an owner-occupier. That owner-occupier would either either be to an owner-occupier. That owner-occupier would either be owner-occupier would either be freeing owner-occupier would either be freeing up owner-occupier would either be freeing up another owner-occupier would either be freeing up another house owner-occupier would either be freeing up another house or owner-occupier would either be freeing up another house or be owner-occupier would either be freeing up another house or be a freeing up another house or be a renter freeing up another house or be a renter who freeing up another house or be a renter who all freeing up another house or be a renter who all of freeing up another house or be a renter who all of a freeing up another house or be a renter who all of a sudden freeing up another house or be a renter who all of a sudden is freeing up another house or be a renter who all of a sudden is able renter who all of a sudden is able to renter who all of a sudden is able to buy renter who all of a sudden is able to buy a renter who all of a sudden is able to buy a house. renter who all of a sudden is able to buy a house. And renter who all of a sudden is able to buy a house. And if renter who all of a sudden is able to buy a house. And if the renter who all of a sudden is able to buy a house. And if the member to buy a house. And if the member somehow to buy a house. And if the member somehow thinks to buy a house. And if the member somehow thinks that to buy a house. And if the member somehow thinks that the to buy a house. And if the member somehow thinks that the house to buy a house. And if the member somehow thinks that the house is somehow thinks that the house is going somehow thinks that the house is going to somehow thinks that the house is going to disappear, somehow thinks that the house is going to disappear, well, somehow thinks that the house is going to disappear, well, he's somehow thinks that the house is going to disappear, well, he's just going to disappear, well, he's just wrong. going to disappear, well, he's just wrong. Supplementary. going to disappear, well, he's just wrong. Supplementary. Does going to disappear, well, he's just wrong. Supplementary. Does he going to disappear, well, he's just wrong. Supplementary. Does he agree wrong. Supplementary. Does he agree a wrong. Supplementary. Does he agree a tax wrong. Supplementary. Does he agree a tax of wrong. Supplementary. Does he agree a tax of around wrong. Supplementary. Does he agree a tax of around $9,000 wrong. Supplementary. Does he agree a tax of around $9,000 for wrong. Supplementary. Does he agree a tax of around $9,000 for the a tax of around $9,000 for the average a tax of around $9,000 for the average property a tax of around $9,000 for the average property rent a tax of around $9,000 for the average property rent al a tax of around $9,000 for the average property rent al owner, a tax of around $9,000 for the average property rent al owner, due average property rent al owner, due to average property rent al owner, due to the average property rent al owner, due to the removal average property rent al owner, due to the removal of average property rent al owner, due to the removal of interest to the removal of interest deductibility, to the removal of interest deductibility, will to the removal of interest deductibility, will increase to the removal of interest deductibility, will increase rents, deductibility, will increase rents, including deductibility, will increase rents, including for deductibility, will increase rents, including for low deductibility, will increase rents, including for low income deductibility, will increase rents, including for low income renters deductibility, will increase rents, including for low income renters who including for low income renters who officials including for low income renters who officials advise including for low income renters who officials advise are including for low income renters who officials advise are the including for low income renters who officials advise are the most officials advise are the most vulnerable officials advise are the most vulnerable group officials advise are the most vulnerable group in officials advise are the most vulnerable group in our officials advise are the most vulnerable group in our housing vulnerable group in our housing system? vulnerable group in our housing system? No, vulnerable group in our housing system? No, I vulnerable group in our housing system? No, I don't vulnerable group in our housing system? No, I don't agree vulnerable group in our housing system? No, I don't agree that vulnerable group in our housing system? No, I don't agree that that system? No, I don't agree that that is system? No, I don't agree that that is necessarily system? No, I don't agree that that is necessarily the system? No, I don't agree that that is necessarily the outcome, system? No, I don't agree that that is necessarily the outcome, as is necessarily the outcome, as evidenced is necessarily the outcome, as evidenced by is necessarily the outcome, as evidenced by the is necessarily the outcome, as evidenced by the fact is necessarily the outcome, as evidenced by the fact that is necessarily the outcome, as evidenced by the fact that when evidenced by the fact that when interest evidenced by the fact that when interest rates evidenced by the fact that when interest rates went evidenced by the fact that when interest rates went down evidenced by the fact that when interest rates went down so interest rates went down so remarkably interest rates went down so remarkably over interest rates went down so remarkably over recent interest rates went down so remarkably over recent years, interest rates went down so remarkably over recent years, they remarkably over recent years, they increased remarkably over recent years, they increased rents remarkably over recent years, they increased rents rather remarkably over recent years, they increased rents rather than remarkably over recent years, they increased rents rather than put remarkably over recent years, they increased rents rather than put them increased rents rather than put them down. increased rents rather than put them down. Supplementary. increased rents rather than put them down. Supplementary. Can increased rents rather than put them down. Supplementary. Can he increased rents rather than put them down. Supplementary. Can he provide down. Supplementary. Can he provide assurances down. Supplementary. Can he provide assurances to down. Supplementary. Can he provide assurances to vulnerable down. Supplementary. Can he provide assurances to vulnerable low-income assurances to vulnerable low-income renters assurances to vulnerable low-income renters that assurances to vulnerable low-income renters that as assurances to vulnerable low-income renters that as a assurances to vulnerable low-income renters that as a result assurances to vulnerable low-income renters that as a result of assurances to vulnerable low-income renters that as a result of his renters that as a result of his policies, renters that as a result of his policies, they renters that as a result of his policies, they will renters that as a result of his policies, they will not renters that as a result of his policies, they will not be renters that as a result of his policies, they will not be evicted policies, they will not be evicted as policies, they will not be evicted as warned policies, they will not be evicted as warned in policies, they will not be evicted as warned in official policies, they will not be evicted as warned in official advice? policies, they will not be evicted as warned in official advice? Well, as warned in official advice? Well, the as warned in official advice? Well, the idea as warned in official advice? Well, the idea that as warned in official advice? Well, the idea that landlords as warned in official advice? Well, the idea that landlords would the idea that landlords would somehow the idea that landlords would somehow come the idea that landlords would somehow come up the idea that landlords would somehow come up with the idea that landlords would somehow come up with a the idea that landlords would somehow come up with a pretence the idea that landlords would somehow come up with a pretence to somehow come up with a pretence to evict somehow come up with a pretence to evict a somehow come up with a pretence to evict a tenant somehow come up with a pretence to evict a tenant because somehow come up with a pretence to evict a tenant because of somehow come up with a pretence to evict a tenant because of changes somehow come up with a pretence to evict a tenant because of changes to evict a tenant because of changes to tax evict a tenant because of changes to tax rule evict a tenant because of changes to tax rule is evict a tenant because of changes to tax rule is absurd. evict a tenant because of changes to tax rule is absurd. Supplementary. tax rule is absurd. Supplementary. Can tax rule is absurd. Supplementary. Can he tax rule is absurd. Supplementary. Can he provide tax rule is absurd. Supplementary. Can he provide an tax rule is absurd. Supplementary. Can he provide an assurance tax rule is absurd. Supplementary. Can he provide an assurance to Can he provide an assurance to owners Can he provide an assurance to owners of Can he provide an assurance to owners of new Can he provide an assurance to owners of new build-to-rent owners of new build-to-rent developments owners of new build-to-rent developments that owners of new build-to-rent developments that are owners of new build-to-rent developments that are held owners of new build-to-rent developments that are held with developments that are held with express developments that are held with express purpose developments that are held with express purpose of developments that are held with express purpose of being developments that are held with express purpose of being rented developments that are held with express purpose of being rented out express purpose of being rented out for express purpose of being rented out for the express purpose of being rented out for the long-term express purpose of being rented out for the long-term - express purpose of being rented out for the long-term - 10-20 express purpose of being rented out for the long-term - 10-20 years, for the long-term - 10-20 years, that for the long-term - 10-20 years, that they for the long-term - 10-20 years, that they will for the long-term - 10-20 years, that they will be for the long-term - 10-20 years, that they will be allowed for the long-term - 10-20 years, that they will be allowed to for the long-term - 10-20 years, that they will be allowed to deduct that they will be allowed to deduct interest that they will be allowed to deduct interest against that they will be allowed to deduct interest against their that they will be allowed to deduct interest against their rental interest against their rental income? interest against their rental income? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: My question is to the Minister of Health: How My question is to the Minister of Health: How many My question is to the Minister of Health: How many unfilled My question is to the Minister of Health: How many unfilled vacancies Health: How many unfilled vacancies are Health: How many unfilled vacancies are there Health: How many unfilled vacancies are there in Health: How many unfilled vacancies are there in total Health: How many unfilled vacancies are there in total across Health: How many unfilled vacancies are there in total across the are there in total across the district are there in total across the district health are there in total across the district health boards, are there in total across the district health boards, and are there in total across the district health boards, and how are there in total across the district health boards, and how many district health boards, and how many of district health boards, and how many of those district health boards, and how many of those vacancies district health boards, and how many of those vacancies are district health boards, and how many of those vacancies are for district health boards, and how many of those vacancies are for nurses? The The Hon The Hon Andrew The Hon Andrew Little. The Hon Andrew Little. I'm The Hon Andrew Little. I'm advised The Hon Andrew Little. I'm advised that The Hon Andrew Little. I'm advised that as The Hon Andrew Little. I'm advised that as of The Hon Andrew Little. I'm advised that as of the The Hon Andrew Little. I'm advised that as of the year The Hon Andrew Little. I'm advised that as of the year ending The Hon Andrew Little. I'm advised that as of the year ending 31 The Hon Andrew Little. I'm advised that as of the year ending 31 March, that as of the year ending 31 March, 2021, that as of the year ending 31 March, 2021, will that as of the year ending 31 March, 2021, will are that as of the year ending 31 March, 2021, will are approximately, that as of the year ending 31 March, 2021, will are approximately, 3,387 2021, will are approximately, 3,387 full 2021, will are approximately, 3,387 full time 2021, will are approximately, 3,387 full time vacancies 2021, will are approximately, 3,387 full time vacancies across 2021, will are approximately, 3,387 full time vacancies across all full time vacancies across all district full time vacancies across all district health full time vacancies across all district health boards. full time vacancies across all district health boards. This district health boards. This includes district health boards. This includes corporate district health boards. This includes corporate vacancies district health boards. 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What does he say to aged care providers who are say to aged care providers who are reporting say to aged care providers who are reporting district say to aged care providers who are reporting district health say to aged care providers who are reporting district health boards say to aged care providers who are reporting district health boards are reporting district health boards are poaching reporting district health boards are poaching their reporting district health boards are poaching their staff, reporting district health boards are poaching their staff, resulting reporting district health boards are poaching their staff, resulting in poaching their staff, resulting in over poaching their staff, resulting in over 500 poaching their staff, resulting in over 500 vacancies poaching their staff, resulting in over 500 vacancies in poaching their staff, resulting in over 500 vacancies in nursing poaching their staff, resulting in over 500 vacancies in nursing alone over 500 vacancies in nursing alone under over 500 vacancies in nursing alone under his over 500 vacancies in nursing alone under his watch? over 500 vacancies in nursing alone under his watch? Mr over 500 vacancies in nursing alone under his watch? Mr Speaker, over 500 vacancies in nursing alone under his watch? Mr Speaker, I over 500 vacancies in nursing alone under his watch? Mr Speaker, I say under his watch? Mr Speaker, I say that under his watch? Mr Speaker, I say that the under his watch? Mr Speaker, I say that the problems under his watch? Mr Speaker, I say that the problems that under his watch? Mr Speaker, I say that the problems that the under his watch? Mr Speaker, I say that the problems that the aged that the problems that the aged cared that the problems that the aged cared residential that the problems that the aged cared residential care that the problems that the aged cared residential care are that the problems that the aged cared residential care are suffering cared residential care are suffering are cared residential care are suffering are similar cared residential care are suffering are similar to cared residential care are suffering are similar to the cared residential care are suffering are similar to the problems cared residential care are suffering are similar to the problems that are similar to the problems that other are similar to the problems that other aspects are similar to the problems that other aspects of are similar to the problems that other aspects of the are similar to the problems that other aspects of the Health are similar to the problems that other aspects of the Health Sector other aspects of the Health Sector are other aspects of the Health Sector are suffering. other aspects of the Health Sector are suffering. 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The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr Megan The Hon Dr Megan Woods. The Hon Dr Megan Woods. No The Hon Dr Megan Woods. No new The Hon Dr Megan Woods. No new offshore The Hon Dr Megan Woods. No new offshore permits The Hon Dr Megan Woods. No new offshore permits for The Hon Dr Megan Woods. No new offshore permits for oil The Hon Dr Megan Woods. No new offshore permits for oil and The Hon Dr Megan Woods. 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This is a Government that continues to Government that continues to understand Government that continues to understand the Government that continues to understand the challenges Government that continues to understand the challenges that Government that continues to understand the challenges that we understand the challenges that we have understand the challenges that we have ahead understand the challenges that we have ahead of understand the challenges that we have ahead of us understand the challenges that we have ahead of us in understand the challenges that we have ahead of us in the understand the challenges that we have ahead of us in the courageous have ahead of us in the courageous steps have ahead of us in the courageous steps that have ahead of us in the courageous steps that need have ahead of us in the courageous steps that need to have ahead of us in the courageous steps that need to be have ahead of us in the courageous steps that need to be taken. steps that need to be taken. Supplementary. steps that need to be taken. Supplementary. What steps that need to be taken. Supplementary. What advice steps that need to be taken. Supplementary. What advice has steps that need to be taken. Supplementary. What advice has she Supplementary. What advice has she received Supplementary. What advice has she received about Supplementary. What advice has she received about the Supplementary. What advice has she received about the impact Supplementary. What advice has she received about the impact of Supplementary. What advice has she received about the impact of new Supplementary. What advice has she received about the impact of new oil received about the impact of new oil and received about the impact of new oil and gas received about the impact of new oil and gas developments received about the impact of new oil and gas developments on received about the impact of new oil and gas developments on our received about the impact of new oil and gas developments on our pathway and gas developments on our pathway to and gas developments on our pathway to net and gas developments on our pathway to net zero and gas developments on our pathway to net zero emissions and gas developments on our pathway to net zero emissions by and gas developments on our pathway to net zero emissions by 2050? and gas developments on our pathway to net zero emissions by 2050? Mr to net zero emissions by 2050? Mr Speaker, to net zero emissions by 2050? Mr Speaker, there to net zero emissions by 2050? Mr Speaker, there are to net zero emissions by 2050? Mr Speaker, there are many to net zero emissions by 2050? Mr Speaker, there are many reports to net zero emissions by 2050? Mr Speaker, there are many reports that Speaker, there are many reports that show Speaker, there are many reports that show the Speaker, there are many reports that show the pathways Speaker, there are many reports that show the pathways that Speaker, there are many reports that show the pathways that we Speaker, there are many reports that show the pathways that we need Speaker, there are many reports that show the pathways that we need to show the pathways that we need to take. show the pathways that we need to take. Not show the pathways that we need to take. Not least show the pathways that we need to take. Not least of show the pathways that we need to take. Not least of all, show the pathways that we need to take. Not least of all, the take. Not least of all, the Independent take. Not least of all, the Independent Climate take. Not least of all, the Independent Climate Commission's Independent Climate Commission's report Independent Climate Commission's report that Independent Climate Commission's report that shows Independent Climate Commission's report that shows that Independent Climate Commission's report that shows that New Independent Climate Commission's report that shows that New Zealand report that shows that New Zealand has report that shows that New Zealand has to report that shows that New Zealand has to move report that shows that New Zealand has to move away report that shows that New Zealand has to move away from report that shows that New Zealand has to move away from using report that shows that New Zealand has to move away from using fossil has to move away from using fossil fuels. has to move away from using fossil fuels. Whether has to move away from using fossil fuels. Whether they has to move away from using fossil fuels. Whether they be has to move away from using fossil fuels. 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And this is an obligation that this Government takes seriously that this Government takes seriously and that this Government takes seriously and why, that this Government takes seriously and why, as that this Government takes seriously and why, as Minister that this Government takes seriously and why, as Minister of that this Government takes seriously and why, as Minister of energy, that this Government takes seriously and why, as Minister of energy, I and why, as Minister of energy, I was and why, as Minister of energy, I was proud and why, as Minister of energy, I was proud to and why, as Minister of energy, I was proud to lead and why, as Minister of energy, I was proud to lead the and why, as Minister of energy, I was proud to lead the ending and why, as Minister of energy, I was proud to lead the ending of and why, as Minister of energy, I was proud to lead the ending of the was proud to lead the ending of the new was proud to lead the ending of the new exploration was proud to lead the ending of the new exploration permits was proud to lead the ending of the new exploration permits for was proud to lead the ending of the new exploration permits for oil was proud to lead the ending of the new exploration permits for oil and new exploration permits for oil and gas. new exploration permits for oil and gas. Supplementary. new exploration permits for oil and gas. Supplementary. Will new exploration permits for oil and gas. Supplementary. Will she new exploration permits for oil and gas. Supplementary. Will she rule gas. Supplementary. Will she rule out gas. Supplementary. Will she rule out further gas. Supplementary. Will she rule out further permits gas. Supplementary. Will she rule out further permits for gas. Supplementary. Will she rule out further permits for new gas. Supplementary. Will she rule out further permits for new fossil out further permits for new fossil fuel out further permits for new fossil fuel developments, out further permits for new fossil fuel developments, be out further permits for new fossil fuel developments, be they out further permits for new fossil fuel developments, be they oil, out further permits for new fossil fuel developments, be they oil, gas fuel developments, be they oil, gas or fuel developments, be they oil, gas or coal, fuel developments, be they oil, gas or coal, as fuel developments, be they oil, gas or coal, as per fuel developments, be they oil, gas or coal, as per the fuel developments, be they oil, gas or coal, as per the International or coal, as per the International Energy or coal, as per the International Energy Agency's or coal, as per the International Energy Agency's strong Energy Agency's strong recommendation Energy Agency's strong recommendation to Energy Agency's strong recommendation to all Energy Agency's strong recommendation to all countries? Energy Agency's strong recommendation to all countries? Mr recommendation to all countries? Mr Speaker, recommendation to all countries? Mr Speaker, as recommendation to all countries? Mr Speaker, as I recommendation to all countries? Mr Speaker, as I indicated recommendation to all countries? Mr Speaker, as I indicated to recommendation to all countries? 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As I also indicated block offers end as desired by Taranaki iwi? As I also indicated in Taranaki iwi? As I also indicated in the Taranaki iwi? As I also indicated in the answer Taranaki iwi? As I also indicated in the answer to Taranaki iwi? As I also indicated in the answer to previous Taranaki iwi? As I also indicated in the answer to previous supplementary the answer to previous supplementary question, the answer to previous supplementary question, that the answer to previous supplementary question, that when the answer to previous supplementary question, that when the the answer to previous supplementary question, that when the previous question, that when the previous Government, question, that when the previous Government, made question, that when the previous Government, made up question, that when the previous Government, made up of question, that when the previous Government, made up of the question, that when the previous Government, made up of the Labour Government, made up of the Labour Party, Government, made up of the Labour Party, New Government, made up of the Labour Party, New Zealand Government, made up of the Labour Party, New Zealand First Government, made up of the Labour Party, New Zealand First and Government, made up of the Labour Party, New Zealand First and the Party, New Zealand First and the Green Party, New Zealand First and the Green Party Party, New Zealand First and the Green Party made Party, New Zealand First and the Green Party made the Party, New Zealand First and the Green Party made the decision Party, New Zealand First and the Green Party made the decision to Party, New Zealand First and the Green Party made the decision to end Green Party made the decision to end offshore Green Party made the decision to end offshore permitting, Green Party made the decision to end offshore permitting, we Green Party made the decision to end offshore permitting, we gave Green Party made the decision to end offshore permitting, we gave an offshore permitting, we gave an undertaking offshore permitting, we gave an undertaking to offshore permitting, we gave an undertaking to undertake offshore permitting, we gave an undertaking to undertake onshore undertaking to undertake onshore block undertaking to undertake onshore block offers undertaking to undertake onshore block offers in undertaking to undertake onshore block offers in 2018, undertaking to undertake onshore block offers in 2018, 19 undertaking to undertake onshore block offers in 2018, 19 and undertaking to undertake onshore block offers in 2018, 19 and 20. undertaking to undertake onshore block offers in 2018, 19 and 20. And block offers in 2018, 19 and 20. And as block offers in 2018, 19 and 20. And as I block offers in 2018, 19 and 20. And as I indicated, block offers in 2018, 19 and 20. And as I indicated, no block offers in 2018, 19 and 20. And as I indicated, no decisions block offers in 2018, 19 and 20. And as I indicated, no decisions have as I indicated, no decisions have been as I indicated, no decisions have been made as I indicated, no decisions have been made around as I indicated, no decisions have been made around further been made around further considerations been made around further considerations and been made around further considerations and one been made around further considerations and one of been made around further considerations and one of the considerations and one of the factors considerations and one of the factors that considerations and one of the factors that I considerations and one of the factors that I indicated considerations and one of the factors that I indicated that considerations and one of the factors that I indicated that would factors that I indicated that would need factors that I indicated that would need to factors that I indicated that would need to be factors that I indicated that would need to be taken factors that I indicated that would need to be taken into factors that I indicated that would need to be taken into account factors that I indicated that would need to be taken into account would need to be taken into account would be need to be taken into account would be the need to be taken into account would be the views need to be taken into account would be the views of need to be taken into account would be the views of local need to be taken into account would be the views of local iwi. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: My question is to the Minister of Transport: What My question is to the Minister of Transport: What recent My question is to the Minister of Transport: What recent announcements Transport: What recent announcements have Transport: What recent announcements have been Transport: What recent announcements have been made Transport: What recent announcements have been made on Transport: What recent announcements have been made on bringing Transport: What recent announcements have been made on bringing New have been made on bringing New Zealand's have been made on bringing New Zealand's rail have been made on bringing New Zealand's rail network have been made on bringing New Zealand's rail network back have been made on bringing New Zealand's rail network back up have been made on bringing New Zealand's rail network back up to Zealand's rail network back up to scratch? The The Hon The Hon Michael The Hon Michael Wood. The Hon Michael Wood. I'm The Hon Michael Wood. I'm pleased The Hon Michael Wood. I'm pleased to The Hon Michael Wood. I'm pleased to say The Hon Michael Wood. I'm pleased to say that The Hon Michael Wood. I'm pleased to say that the I'm pleased to say that the Government I'm pleased to say that the Government is I'm pleased to say that the Government is working I'm pleased to say that the Government is working on I'm pleased to say that the Government is working on bringing I'm pleased to say that the Government is working on bringing it Government is working on bringing it back Government is working on bringing it back up Government is working on bringing it back up to Government is working on bringing it back up to scratch Government is working on bringing it back up to scratch and Government is working on bringing it back up to scratch and supporting back up to scratch and supporting our back up to scratch and supporting our economic back up to scratch and supporting our economic recovery. back up to scratch and supporting our economic recovery. KiwiRail's our economic recovery. KiwiRail's inaugural our economic recovery. KiwiRail's inaugural investment our economic recovery. KiwiRail's inaugural investment programme our economic recovery. KiwiRail's inaugural investment programme was inaugural investment programme was released inaugural investment programme was released which inaugural investment programme was released which shows inaugural investment programme was released which shows upgrades inaugural investment programme was released which shows upgrades on inaugural investment programme was released which shows upgrades on the released which shows upgrades on the rail released which shows upgrades on the rail net, released which shows upgrades on the rail net, over released which shows upgrades on the rail net, over the released which shows upgrades on the rail net, over the next released which shows upgrades on the rail net, over the next three released which shows upgrades on the rail net, over the next three years. rail net, over the next three years. The rail net, over the next three years. The disruptions rail net, over the next three years. The disruptions to rail net, over the next three years. The disruptions to the rail net, over the next three years. The disruptions to the supply rail net, over the next three years. The disruptions to the supply chain The disruptions to the supply chain due The disruptions to the supply chain due to The disruptions to the supply chain due to COVID The disruptions to the supply chain due to COVID have The disruptions to the supply chain due to COVID have shown The disruptions to the supply chain due to COVID have shown how due to COVID have shown how important due to COVID have shown how important it due to COVID have shown how important it is due to COVID have shown how important it is to due to COVID have shown how important it is to have due to COVID have shown how important it is to have a due to COVID have shown how important it is to have a reliable important it is to have a reliable rail important it is to have a reliable rail network important it is to have a reliable rail network to important it is to have a reliable rail network to keep important it is to have a reliable rail network to keep freight important it is to have a reliable rail network to keep freight flowing rail network to keep freight flowing and rail network to keep freight flowing and keep rail network to keep freight flowing and keep our rail network to keep freight flowing and keep our economy rail network to keep freight flowing and keep our economy moving. and keep our economy moving. Supplementary. and keep our economy moving. Supplementary. What and keep our economy moving. Supplementary. What does and keep our economy moving. Supplementary. What does the Supplementary. What does the programme Supplementary. What does the programme include? Supplementary. What does the programme include? Mr Supplementary. What does the programme include? Mr Speaker, Supplementary. What does the programme include? Mr Speaker, the programme include? Mr Speaker, the $1.3 programme include? Mr Speaker, the $1.3 billion programme include? Mr Speaker, the $1.3 billion investment programme include? Mr Speaker, the $1.3 billion investment is programme include? Mr Speaker, the $1.3 billion investment is about $1.3 billion investment is about getting $1.3 billion investment is about getting the $1.3 billion investment is about getting the bread $1.3 billion investment is about getting the bread and $1.3 billion investment is about getting the bread and butter $1.3 billion investment is about getting the bread and butter stuff getting the bread and butter stuff done getting the bread and butter stuff done to getting the bread and butter stuff done to lift getting the bread and butter stuff done to lift our getting the bread and butter stuff done to lift our rail getting the bread and butter stuff done to lift our rail network getting the bread and butter stuff done to lift our rail network to getting the bread and butter stuff done to lift our rail network to a done to lift our rail network to a resilient done to lift our rail network to a resilient and done to lift our rail network to a resilient and reliable done to lift our rail network to a resilient and reliable state done to lift our rail network to a resilient and reliable state after resilient and reliable state after years resilient and reliable state after years of resilient and reliable state after years of managed resilient and reliable state after years of managed decline. resilient and reliable state after years of managed decline. It years of managed decline. It includes years of managed decline. It includes fully years of managed decline. It includes fully replacing years of managed decline. It includes fully replacing 20 years of managed decline. It includes fully replacing 20 bridges includes fully replacing 20 bridges around includes fully replacing 20 bridges around the includes fully replacing 20 bridges around the country includes fully replacing 20 bridges around the country and includes fully replacing 20 bridges around the country and improving around the country and improving around around the country and improving around 25 around the country and improving around 25 more. around the country and improving around 25 more. Replacing around the country and improving around 25 more. Replacing more around the country and improving around 25 more. Replacing more than around 25 more. Replacing more than 200km around 25 more. Replacing more than 200km of around 25 more. Replacing more than 200km of rail around 25 more. Replacing more than 200km of rail sleepers. around 25 more. Replacing more than 200km of rail sleepers. More around 25 more. Replacing more than 200km of rail sleepers. More than 200km of rail sleepers. More than 130km 200km of rail sleepers. More than 130km of 200km of rail sleepers. More than 130km of tracks, 200km of rail sleepers. More than 130km of tracks, adding 200km of rail sleepers. More than 130km of tracks, adding active 130km of tracks, adding active controls 130km of tracks, adding active controls like 130km of tracks, adding active controls like barrier 130km of tracks, adding active controls like barrier arms, 130km of tracks, adding active controls like barrier arms, lights controls like barrier arms, lights and controls like barrier arms, lights and bells controls like barrier arms, lights and bells to controls like barrier arms, lights and bells to three controls like barrier arms, lights and bells to three level controls like barrier arms, lights and bells to three level crossings, and bells to three level crossings, upgrading and bells to three level crossings, upgrading the and bells to three level crossings, upgrading the Auckland and bells to three level crossings, upgrading the Auckland Metro upgrading the Auckland Metro Network, upgrading the Auckland Metro Network, and upgrading the Auckland Metro Network, and importantly, upgrading the Auckland Metro Network, and importantly, investing Network, and importantly, investing in Network, and importantly, investing in a Network, and importantly, investing in a business Network, and importantly, investing in a business case Network, and importantly, investing in a business case for Network, and importantly, investing in a business case for further in a business case for further network in a business case for further network improve.s in a business case for further network improve.s across in a business case for further network improve.s across Wellington, network improve.s across Wellington, including network improve.s across Wellington, including looking network improve.s across Wellington, including looking at network improve.s across Wellington, including looking at potentially including looking at potentially expanding including looking at potentially expanding commuter including looking at potentially expanding commuter services including looking at potentially expanding commuter services to including looking at potentially expanding commuter services to the expanding commuter services to the north expanding commuter services to the north of expanding commuter services to the north of Waikini. expanding commuter services to the north of Waikini. Supplementary. expanding commuter services to the north of Waikini. Supplementary. How north of Waikini. Supplementary. How will north of Waikini. Supplementary. How will this north of Waikini. Supplementary. How will this work north of Waikini. Supplementary. How will this work support north of Waikini. Supplementary. How will this work support the north of Waikini. Supplementary. How will this work support the economic will this work support the economic recovery? will this work support the economic recovery? This will this work support the economic recovery? This work will this work support the economic recovery? This work is will this work support the economic recovery? This work is enabling recovery? This work is enabling KiwiRail recovery? This work is enabling KiwiRail to recovery? This work is enabling KiwiRail to take recovery? This work is enabling KiwiRail to take on recovery? This work is enabling KiwiRail to take on around recovery? This work is enabling KiwiRail to take on around 150 recovery? This work is enabling KiwiRail to take on around 150 new KiwiRail to take on around 150 new track KiwiRail to take on around 150 new track staff, KiwiRail to take on around 150 new track staff, including KiwiRail to take on around 150 new track staff, including a KiwiRail to take on around 150 new track staff, including a pipeline KiwiRail to take on around 150 new track staff, including a pipeline of track staff, including a pipeline of trainees track staff, including a pipeline of trainees and track staff, including a pipeline of trainees and will track staff, including a pipeline of trainees and will also track staff, including a pipeline of trainees and will also support trainees and will also support numerous trainees and will also support numerous civil trainees and will also support numerous civil contracting trainees and will also support numerous civil contracting firms trainees and will also support numerous civil contracting firms and numerous civil contracting firms and material numerous civil contracting firms and material suppliers. numerous civil contracting firms and material suppliers. There numerous civil contracting firms and material suppliers. There will numerous civil contracting firms and material suppliers. There will be material suppliers. There will be work material suppliers. There will be work happening material suppliers. There will be work happening across material suppliers. There will be work happening across every material suppliers. There will be work happening across every region work happening across every region from work happening across every region from Northland work happening across every region from Northland to work happening across every region from Northland to Southland, from Northland to Southland, supporting from Northland to Southland, supporting jobs from Northland to Southland, supporting jobs and from Northland to Southland, supporting jobs and the from Northland to Southland, supporting jobs and the economic supporting jobs and the economic recovery supporting jobs and the economic recovery across supporting jobs and the economic recovery across our supporting jobs and the economic recovery across our country. supporting jobs and the economic recovery across our country. The supporting jobs and the economic recovery across our country. The Hon recovery across our country. The Hon Michael recovery across our country. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. recovery across our country. 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What exemption for light electric vehicles this week. What is exemption for light electric vehicles this week. What is his vehicles this week. What is his response vehicles this week. What is his response to vehicles this week. What is his response to Auckland vehicles this week. What is his response to Auckland Mayor vehicles this week. 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Is Party's commitment to the fuel tax. Is it Party's commitment to the fuel tax. Is it a Party's commitment to the fuel tax. Is it a priority Party's commitment to the fuel tax. Is it a priority of Party's commitment to the fuel tax. Is it a priority of this Party's commitment to the fuel tax. Is it a priority of this Government Is it a priority of this Government for Is it a priority of this Government for NZ Is it a priority of this Government for NZ TA Is it a priority of this Government for NZ TA to Is it a priority of this Government for NZ TA to enable Is it a priority of this Government for NZ TA to enable councils Is it a priority of this Government for NZ TA to enable councils to for NZ TA to enable councils to complete for NZ TA to enable councils to complete critical for NZ TA to enable councils to complete critical projects for NZ TA to enable councils to complete critical projects like for NZ TA to enable councils to complete critical projects like the complete critical projects like the Eastern complete critical projects like the Eastern Busway? complete critical projects like the Eastern Busway? And complete critical projects like the Eastern Busway? And if complete critical projects like the Eastern Busway? And if so, complete critical projects like the Eastern Busway? And if so, why complete critical projects like the Eastern Busway? And if so, why is Eastern Busway? And if so, why is the Eastern Busway? And if so, why is the busway Eastern Busway? And if so, why is the busway being Eastern Busway? And if so, why is the busway being further Eastern Busway? And if so, why is the busway being further delayed Eastern Busway? And if so, why is the busway being further delayed by the busway being further delayed by two the busway being further delayed by two years? the busway being further delayed by two years? It the busway being further delayed by two years? It is the busway being further delayed by two years? It is an the busway being further delayed by two years? It is an absolute two years? It is an absolute priority. two years? It is an absolute priority. And two years? It is an absolute priority. And in two years? It is an absolute priority. And in the two years? 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I've asked officials to work with Auckland Transport to work with Auckland Transport to bring work with Auckland Transport to bring the work with Auckland Transport to bring the project work with Auckland Transport to bring the project forward work with Auckland Transport to bring the project forward and bring the project forward and deliver bring the project forward and deliver it bring the project forward and deliver it as bring the project forward and deliver it as quickly bring the project forward and deliver it as quickly as bring the project forward and deliver it as quickly as possible. deliver it as quickly as possible. Does deliver it as quickly as possible. Does he deliver it as quickly as possible. Does he believe deliver it as quickly as possible. Does he believe the deliver it as quickly as possible. Does he believe the Eastern deliver it as quickly as possible. 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The system that it deserves. The regional system that it deserves. The regional fuel system that it deserves. The regional fuel tax system that it deserves. The regional fuel tax is system that it deserves. The regional fuel tax is an system that it deserves. The regional fuel tax is an important regional fuel tax is an important part regional fuel tax is an important part of regional fuel tax is an important part of that. regional fuel tax is an important part of that. It regional fuel tax is an important part of that. It is regional fuel tax is an important part of that. It is important regional fuel tax is an important part of that. It is important to part of that. It is important to note part of that. It is important to note that part of that. It is important to note that stage part of that. It is important to note that stage one part of that. It is important to note that stage one of part of that. It is important to note that stage one of that part of that. 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Mr Speaker, the Government believes that in order good sunny day? Mr Speaker, the Government believes that in order to Government believes that in order to deliver Government believes that in order to deliver the Government believes that in order to deliver the transport Government believes that in order to deliver the transport solutions Government believes that in order to deliver the transport solutions that deliver the transport solutions that Aucklanders deliver the transport solutions that Aucklanders and deliver the transport solutions that Aucklanders and need, deliver the transport solutions that Aucklanders and need, we deliver the transport solutions that Aucklanders and need, we do deliver the transport solutions that Aucklanders and need, we do need deliver the transport solutions that Aucklanders and need, we do need to Aucklanders and need, we do need to be Aucklanders and need, we do need to be able Aucklanders and need, we do need to be able to Aucklanders and need, we do need to be able to do Aucklanders and need, we do need to be able to do more Aucklanders and need, we do need to be able to do more than Aucklanders and need, we do need to be able to do more than one Aucklanders and need, we do need to be able to do more than one thing Aucklanders and need, we do need to be able to do more than one thing at be able to do more than one thing at once. be able to do more than one thing at once. 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We have committed to 12 million in Budget 2021 and to 12 million in Budget 2021 and previously to 12 million in Budget 2021 and previously and to 12 million in Budget 2021 and previously and before to 12 million in Budget 2021 and previously and before the to 12 million in Budget 2021 and previously and before the end to 12 million in Budget 2021 and previously and before the end of to 12 million in Budget 2021 and previously and before the end of the previously and before the end of the year, previously and before the end of the year, a previously and before the end of the year, a national previously and before the end of the year, a national strategy previously and before the end of the year, a national strategy and previously and before the end of the year, a national strategy and action year, a national strategy and action plan year, a national strategy and action plan will year, a national strategy and action plan will be year, a national strategy and action plan will be launched year, a national strategy and action plan will be launched which year, a national strategy and action plan will be launched which will plan will be launched which will include plan will be launched which will include more plan will be launched which will include more actions plan will be launched which will include more actions to plan will be launched which will include more actions to uplift include more actions to uplift kopapa include more actions to uplift kopapa led include more actions to uplift kopapa led prevention include more actions to uplift kopapa led prevention services. include more actions to uplift kopapa led prevention services. 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