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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Immigration: My question is to the Minister of Immigration: How My question is to the Minister of Immigration: How many My question is to the Minister of Immigration: How many people My question is to the Minister of Immigration: How many people have Immigration: How many people have been Immigration: How many people have been deported Immigration: How many people have been deported by Immigration: How many people have been deported by Immigration Immigration: How many people have been deported by Immigration NZ been deported by Immigration NZ since been deported by Immigration NZ since the been deported by Immigration NZ since the beginning been deported by Immigration NZ since the beginning of been deported by Immigration NZ since the beginning of March been deported by Immigration NZ since the beginning of March 2020 since the beginning of March 2020 and, since the beginning of March 2020 and, of since the beginning of March 2020 and, of these, since the beginning of March 2020 and, of these, how since the beginning of March 2020 and, of these, how many since the beginning of March 2020 and, of these, how many have since the beginning of March 2020 and, of these, how many have been and, of these, how many have been deported and, of these, how many have been deported to and, of these, how many have been deported to Pacific and, of these, how many have been deported to Pacific Island and, of these, how many have been deported to Pacific Island nations? The The Hon The Hon David The Hon David Parker. The Hon David Parker. On The Hon David Parker. On behalf The Hon David Parker. On behalf of The Hon David Parker. On behalf of the The Hon David Parker. On behalf of the Minister The Hon David Parker. On behalf of the Minister of The Hon David Parker. On behalf of the Minister of Immigration, The Hon David Parker. On behalf of the Minister of Immigration, I'm the Minister of Immigration, I'm advised the Minister of Immigration, I'm advised that the Minister of Immigration, I'm advised that the the Minister of Immigration, I'm advised that the total the Minister of Immigration, I'm advised that the total number the Minister of Immigration, I'm advised that the total number of advised that the total number of people advised that the total number of people liable advised that the total number of people liable for advised that the total number of people liable for deportation, advised that the total number of people liable for deportation, who people liable for deportation, who were people liable for deportation, who were deported people liable for deportation, who were deported by people liable for deportation, who were deported by Immigration people liable for deportation, who were deported by Immigration NZ people liable for deportation, who were deported by Immigration NZ from were deported by Immigration NZ from March were deported by Immigration NZ from March 2020, were deported by Immigration NZ from March 2020, including were deported by Immigration NZ from March 2020, including those were deported by Immigration NZ from March 2020, including those who March 2020, including those who self-deported March 2020, including those who self-deported - March 2020, including those who self-deported - or March 2020, including those who self-deported - or in March 2020, including those who self-deported - or in other March 2020, including those who self-deported - or in other words self-deported - or in other words departed self-deported - or in other words departed voluntarily self-deported - or in other words departed voluntarily following departed voluntarily following compliance departed voluntarily following compliance action departed voluntarily following compliance action - departed voluntarily following compliance action - is departed voluntarily following compliance action - is 1,088. departed voluntarily following compliance action - is 1,088. 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Deportations to the Pacific are Deportations to the Pacific are fewer Deportations to the Pacific are fewer when Deportations to the Pacific are fewer when compared Deportations to the Pacific are fewer when compared with Deportations to the Pacific are fewer when compared with pre-COVID fewer when compared with pre-COVID because fewer when compared with pre-COVID because of fewer when compared with pre-COVID because of both fewer when compared with pre-COVID because of both border fewer when compared with pre-COVID because of both border restrictions because of both border restrictions and because of both border restrictions and limitations because of both border restrictions and limitations on because of both border restrictions and limitations on available and limitations on available flights. and limitations on available flights. The and limitations on available flights. The deportees and limitations on available flights. The deportees this and limitations on available flights. The deportees this year flights. The deportees this year included flights. The deportees this year included people flights. The deportees this year included people who flights. The deportees this year included people who had flights. The deportees this year included people who had completed included people who had completed prison included people who had completed prison sentences included people who had completed prison sentences for included people who had completed prison sentences for convictions of prison sentences for convictions of violence prison sentences for convictions of violence such prison sentences for convictions of violence such as prison sentences for convictions of violence such as assaults, prison sentences for convictions of violence such as assaults, serious violence such as assaults, serious assaults, violence such as assaults, serious assaults, threats violence such as assaults, serious assaults, threats and violence such as assaults, serious assaults, threats and intimidation. assaults, threats and intimidation. Where assaults, threats and intimidation. Where deportations assaults, threats and intimidation. Where deportations occur, Where deportations occur, Immigration Where deportations occur, Immigration NZ Where deportations occur, Immigration NZ works Where deportations occur, Immigration NZ works closely Where deportations occur, Immigration NZ works closely with Immigration NZ works closely with Pacific Immigration NZ works closely with Pacific governments Immigration NZ works closely with Pacific governments on Immigration NZ works closely with Pacific governments on management Immigration NZ works closely with Pacific governments on management of Pacific governments on management of that Pacific governments on management of that process. Pacific governments on management of that process. Supplementary that process. Supplementary question. that process. Supplementary question. Does that process. Supplementary question. Does he that process. Supplementary question. Does he share that process. Supplementary question. Does he share the question. 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Does he share the concerns of the Pacific leadership concerns of the Pacific leadership forum concerns of the Pacific leadership forum that concerns of the Pacific leadership forum that fear concerns of the Pacific leadership forum that fear and concerns of the Pacific leadership forum that fear and anxiety concerns of the Pacific leadership forum that fear and anxiety about forum that fear and anxiety about deportations forum that fear and anxiety about deportations is forum that fear and anxiety about deportations is a forum that fear and anxiety about deportations is a consideration forum that fear and anxiety about deportations is a consideration for deportations is a consideration for Pasifika deportations is a consideration for Pasifika overstayers deportations is a consideration for Pasifika overstayers being deportations is a consideration for Pasifika overstayers being tested Pasifika overstayers being tested and Pasifika overstayers being tested and vaccinated? Pasifika overstayers being tested and vaccinated? And Pasifika overstayers being tested and vaccinated? And that Pasifika overstayers being tested and vaccinated? And that this could and vaccinated? And that this could undermine and vaccinated? And that this could undermine the and vaccinated? And that this could undermine the Government's and vaccinated? And that this could undermine the Government's COVID undermine the Government's COVID response? undermine the Government's COVID response? I undermine the Government's COVID response? I think undermine the Government's COVID response? I think the undermine the Government's COVID response? I think the Government undermine the Government's COVID response? I think the Government has response? I think the Government has been response? I think the Government has been clear response? I think the Government has been clear that response? I think the Government has been clear that we're response? I think the Government has been clear that we're not been clear that we're not approaching been clear that we're not approaching deportations been clear that we're not approaching deportations in been clear that we're not approaching deportations in that approaching deportations in that manner approaching deportations in that manner and approaching deportations in that manner and we're approaching deportations in that manner and we're doing approaching deportations in that manner and we're doing our approaching deportations in that manner and we're doing our outmost manner and we're doing our outmost to manner and we're doing our outmost to -- manner and we're doing our outmost to -- utmost manner and we're doing our outmost to -- utmost to manner and we're doing our outmost to -- utmost to include manner and we're doing our outmost to -- utmost to include everyone manner and we're doing our outmost to -- utmost to include everyone in to -- utmost to include everyone in the to -- utmost to include everyone in the vaccinations to -- utmost to include everyone in the vaccinations we to -- utmost to include everyone in the vaccinations we need to -- utmost to include everyone in the vaccinations we need every to -- utmost to include everyone in the vaccinations we need every New the vaccinations we need every New Zealander the vaccinations we need every New Zealander to the vaccinations we need every New Zealander to take. the vaccinations we need every New Zealander to take. 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I would also note in respect of Fiji, which has had COVID respect of Fiji, which has had COVID problems respect of Fiji, which has had COVID problems develop respect of Fiji, which has had COVID problems develop this respect of Fiji, which has had COVID problems develop this year, respect of Fiji, which has had COVID problems develop this year, there problems develop this year, there has problems develop this year, there has been problems develop this year, there has been no problems develop this year, there has been no deportations problems develop this year, there has been no deportations at problems develop this year, there has been no deportations at all has been no deportations at all since has been no deportations at all since 22 has been no deportations at all since 22 April has been no deportations at all since 22 April this has been no deportations at all since 22 April this year. has been no deportations at all since 22 April this year. 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Does he think that deporting overstayers in think that deporting overstayers in the think that deporting overstayers in the middle think that deporting overstayers in the middle of think that deporting overstayers in the middle of a think that deporting overstayers in the middle of a pandemic think that deporting overstayers in the middle of a pandemic sends think that deporting overstayers in the middle of a pandemic sends a the middle of a pandemic sends a message the middle of a pandemic sends a message of the middle of a pandemic sends a message of fear the middle of a pandemic sends a message of fear to the middle of a pandemic sends a message of fear to a the middle of a pandemic sends a message of fear to a community the middle of a pandemic sends a message of fear to a community that message of fear to a community that is message of fear to a community that is being message of fear to a community that is being encouraged message of fear to a community that is being encouraged to message of fear to a community that is being encouraged to come message of fear to a community that is being encouraged to come forward is being encouraged to come forward to is being encouraged to come forward to get is being encouraged to come forward to get tested is being encouraged to come forward to get tested or is being encouraged to come forward to get tested or vaccinated? is being encouraged to come forward to get tested or vaccinated? 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Is the Minister confident that people being deported confident that people being deported have confident that people being deported have been confident that people being deported have been tested confident that people being deported have been tested for confident that people being deported have been tested for COVID-19 confident that people being deported have been tested for COVID-19 to have been tested for COVID-19 to minimise have been tested for COVID-19 to minimise the have been tested for COVID-19 to minimise the risk have been tested for COVID-19 to minimise the risk of have been tested for COVID-19 to minimise the risk of unknowingly minimise the risk of unknowingly spreading minimise the risk of unknowingly spreading COVID minimise the risk of unknowingly spreading COVID to minimise the risk of unknowingly spreading COVID to Pacific spreading COVID to Pacific countries? spreading COVID to Pacific countries? I spreading COVID to Pacific countries? 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Does ensure that everyone there is safe and free of COVID. Does he ensure that everyone there is safe and free of COVID. Does he consider and free of COVID. Does he consider that and free of COVID. Does he consider that a and free of COVID. Does he consider that a decision and free of COVID. Does he consider that a decision on and free of COVID. Does he consider that a decision on an and free of COVID. Does he consider that a decision on an amnesty and free of COVID. Does he consider that a decision on an amnesty for that a decision on an amnesty for overstayers that a decision on an amnesty for overstayers is that a decision on an amnesty for overstayers is part that a decision on an amnesty for overstayers is part of that a decision on an amnesty for overstayers is part of a that a decision on an amnesty for overstayers is part of a public overstayers is part of a public health overstayers is part of a public health response, overstayers is part of a public health response, and overstayers is part of a public health response, and should overstayers is part of a public health response, and should be overstayers is part of a public health response, and should be made health response, and should be made now health response, and should be made now rather health response, and should be made now rather than health response, and should be made now rather than at health response, and should be made now rather than at the health response, and should be made now rather than at the end health response, and should be made now rather than at the end of health response, and should be made now rather than at the end of the now rather than at the end of the year now rather than at the end of the year through now rather than at the end of the year through the now rather than at the end of the year through the immigration now rather than at the end of the year through the immigration review? year through the immigration review? No. year through the immigration review? No. Supplementary. year through the immigration review? No. Supplementary. Is year through the immigration review? No. Supplementary. Is the year through the immigration review? No. Supplementary. Is the Minister No. Supplementary. Is the Minister confident No. Supplementary. Is the Minister confident that No. Supplementary. Is the Minister confident that Immigration No. Supplementary. Is the Minister confident that Immigration NZ confident that Immigration NZ conducts confident that Immigration NZ conducts investigations confident that Immigration NZ conducts investigations into conducts investigations into potential conducts investigations into potential migrant conducts investigations into potential migrant exploitation potential migrant exploitation before potential migrant exploitation before deporting potential migrant exploitation before deporting overstayers? potential migrant exploitation before deporting overstayers? Could before deporting overstayers? Could I before deporting overstayers? Could I ask before deporting overstayers? Could I ask the before deporting overstayers? Could I ask the member before deporting overstayers? Could I ask the member to before deporting overstayers? Could I ask the member to repeat before deporting overstayers? Could I ask the member to repeat that I ask the member to repeat that question? I ask the member to repeat that question? I'm I ask the member to repeat that question? I'm not I ask the member to repeat that question? I'm not sure I ask the member to repeat that question? I'm not sure I I ask the member to repeat that question? I'm not sure I caught I ask the member to repeat that question? I'm not sure I caught the question? I'm not sure I caught the import question? I'm not sure I caught the import of question? I'm not sure I caught the import of it. question? I'm not sure I caught the import of it. Is question? I'm not sure I caught the import of it. Is the question? I'm not sure I caught the import of it. Is the Minister import of it. Is the Minister confident import of it. Is the Minister confident that import of it. Is the Minister confident that Immigration import of it. Is the Minister confident that Immigration NZ confident that Immigration NZ conducts confident that Immigration NZ conducts investigations confident that Immigration NZ conducts investigations into conducts investigations into potential conducts investigations into potential migrant conducts investigations into potential migrant exploitation potential migrant exploitation before potential migrant exploitation before deporting potential migrant exploitation before deporting overstayers? potential migrant exploitation before deporting overstayers? I before deporting overstayers? I don't before deporting overstayers? I don't have before deporting overstayers? I don't have detailed before deporting overstayers? I don't have detailed information before deporting overstayers? I don't have detailed information on don't have detailed information on that. don't have detailed information on that. I don't have detailed information on that. I did don't have detailed information on that. I did have don't have detailed information on that. I did have confident don't have detailed information on that. I did have confident in don't have detailed information on that. I did have confident in the don't have detailed information on that. I did have confident in the -- that. I did have confident in the -- do that. I did have confident in the -- do have that. I did have confident in the -- do have confidence that. I did have confident in the -- do have confidence in that. I did have confident in the -- do have confidence in the that. I did have confident in the -- do have confidence in the department do have confidence in the department but do have confidence in the department but if do have confidence in the department but if the do have confidence in the department but if the member do have confidence in the department but if the member wants do have confidence in the department but if the member wants to do have confidence in the department but if the member wants to put do have confidence in the department but if the member wants to put a but if the member wants to put a question but if the member wants to put a question in but if the member wants to put a question in writing but if the member wants to put a question in writing to but if the member wants to put a question in writing to the but if the member wants to put a question in writing to the Minister question in writing to the Minister of question in writing to the Minister of Immigration, question in writing to the Minister of Immigration, I'm question in writing to the Minister of Immigration, I'm sure question in writing to the Minister of Immigration, I'm sure he question in writing to the Minister of Immigration, I'm sure he would question in writing to the Minister of Immigration, I'm sure he would be of Immigration, I'm sure he would be happy of Immigration, I'm sure he would be happy to of Immigration, I'm sure he would be happy to reply. of Immigration, I'm sure he would be happy to reply. Question of Immigration, I'm sure he would be happy to reply. Question No. of Immigration, I'm sure he would be happy to reply. Question No. 2, happy to reply. Question No. 2, Angie happy to reply. Question No. 2, Angie Warren-Clark. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: What My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: What recent COVID-19 Response: What recent progress COVID-19 Response: What recent progress has COVID-19 Response: What recent progress has been COVID-19 Response: What recent progress has been made COVID-19 Response: What recent progress has been made on COVID-19 Response: What recent progress has been made on New progress has been made on New Zealand's progress has been made on New Zealand's COVID-19 progress has been made on New Zealand's COVID-19 vaccine Zealand's COVID-19 vaccine programme? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, New The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, New Zealand The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, New Zealand is The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, New Zealand is successfully The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, New Zealand is successfully rolling New Zealand is successfully rolling Zealand's New Zealand is successfully rolling out at pace New Zealand is successfully rolling out at pace the New Zealand is successfully rolling out at pace the largest New Zealand is successfully rolling out at pace the largest immunisation out at pace the largest immunisation Zealand's out at pace the largest immunisation programme the country out at pace the largest immunisation programme the country has out at pace the largest immunisation programme the country has ever out at pace the largest immunisation programme the country has ever seen. programme the country has ever seen. Nationwide, programme the country has ever seen. Nationwide, three-quarters programme the country has ever seen. Nationwide, three-quarters of programme the country has ever seen. Nationwide, three-quarters of the Nationwide, three-quarters of the eligible Nationwide, three-quarters of the eligible population Nationwide, three-quarters of the eligible population aged Nationwide, three-quarters of the eligible population aged 12 Nationwide, three-quarters of the eligible population aged 12 plus eligible population aged 12 plus have eligible population aged 12 plus have now eligible population aged 12 plus have now received eligible population aged 12 plus have now received their eligible population aged 12 plus have now received their first eligible population aged 12 plus have now received their first dose have now received their first dose eligible have now received their first dose and have now received their first dose and 40% have received have now received their first dose and 40% have received their have now received their first dose and 40% have received their second and 40% have received their second dose, and 40% have received their second dose, meaning and 40% have received their second dose, meaning that and 40% have received their second dose, meaning that they and 40% have received their second dose, meaning that they are and 40% have received their second dose, meaning that they are fully dose, meaning that they are fully vaccinated. vaccinated. 53% vaccinated. 53% of vaccinated. 53% of Maori vaccinated. 53% of Maori have vaccinated. 53% of Maori have had vaccinated. 53% of Maori have had their vaccinated. 53% of Maori have had their first 53% of Maori have had their first dose 53% of Maori have had their first dose with 53% of Maori have had their first dose with 26% 53% of Maori have had their first dose with 26% getting 53% of Maori have had their first dose with 26% getting their 53% of Maori have had their first dose with 26% getting their second. dose with 26% getting their second. 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Supplementary. How have had their first dose and 44% their second. Supplementary. How is their second. Supplementary. How is the their second. Supplementary. How is the vaccination their second. Supplementary. How is the vaccination programme the vaccination programme specifically the vaccination programme specifically progressing the vaccination programme specifically progressing in specifically progressing in Auckland? specifically progressing in Auckland? A specifically progressing in Auckland? A phenomenal specifically progressing in Auckland? A phenomenal evident specifically progressing in Auckland? A phenomenal evident has Auckland? A phenomenal evident has been Auckland? A phenomenal evident has been undertaken Auckland? A phenomenal evident has been undertaken by Auckland? A phenomenal evident has been undertaken by the Auckland? A phenomenal evident has been undertaken by the people Auckland? 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I want to pass on my thanks to all want to pass on my thanks to all those want to pass on my thanks to all those who want to pass on my thanks to all those who have want to pass on my thanks to all those who have been want to pass on my thanks to all those who have been involved want to pass on my thanks to all those who have been involved in want to pass on my thanks to all those who have been involved in this those who have been involved in this effort, those who have been involved in this effort, all those who have been involved in this effort, all those those who have been involved in this effort, all those who those who have been involved in this effort, all those who have those who have been involved in this effort, all those who have already effort, all those who have already been effort, all those who have already been vaccinated. effort, all those who have already been vaccinated. This effort, all those who have already been vaccinated. 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I was able to roads in south, west and east Auckland. I was able to speak roads in south, west and east Auckland. I was able to speak with roads in south, west and east Auckland. I was able to speak with a Auckland. I was able to speak with a number Auckland. I was able to speak with a number of Auckland. I was able to speak with a number of people Auckland. I was able to speak with a number of people involved Auckland. I was able to speak with a number of people involved in Auckland. I was able to speak with a number of people involved in that number of people involved in that earlier number of people involved in that earlier today. number of people involved in that earlier today. They number of people involved in that earlier today. They are number of people involved in that earlier today. They are considering earlier today. They are considering other earlier today. They are considering other similar earlier today. They are considering other similar and earlier today. They are considering other similar and novel earlier today. They are considering other similar and novel approaches other similar and novel approaches to other similar and novel approaches to increase other similar and novel approaches to increase vaccine other similar and novel approaches to increase vaccine update. other similar and novel approaches to increase vaccine update. -- to increase vaccine update. -- uptake. to increase vaccine update. -- uptake. I'll to increase vaccine update. -- uptake. I'll have to increase vaccine update. -- uptake. I'll have similar uptake. I'll have similar conversations uptake. I'll have similar conversations throughout uptake. I'll have similar conversations throughout the uptake. I'll have similar conversations throughout the rest uptake. I'll have similar conversations throughout the rest of conversations throughout the rest of the conversations throughout the rest of the week. conversations throughout the rest of the week. Question conversations throughout the rest of the week. Question No. conversations throughout the rest of the week. Question No. 3, conversations throughout the rest of the week. Question No. 3, the conversations throughout the rest of the week. Question No. 3, the Hon the week. Question No. 3, the Hon Judith the week. Question No. 3, the Hon Judith Collins. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the PM: My question is to the PM: Does My question is to the PM: Does she My question is to the PM: Does she stand My question is to the PM: Does she stand by My question is to the PM: Does she stand by all My question is to the PM: Does she stand by all of My question is to the PM: Does she stand by all of her My question is to the PM: Does she stand by all of her Government's stand by all of her Government's statements stand by all of her Government's statements and stand by all of her Government's statements and actions? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon PM. The Rt Hon PM. Yes. The Rt Hon PM. Yes. In The Rt Hon PM. Yes. In particular, The Rt Hon PM. Yes. In particular, I The Rt Hon PM. Yes. In particular, I stand The Rt Hon PM. Yes. In particular, I stand by The Rt Hon PM. Yes. In particular, I stand by the The Rt Hon PM. Yes. In particular, I stand by the Government's The Rt Hon PM. Yes. In particular, I stand by the Government's decision stand by the Government's decision to stand by the Government's decision to increase stand by the Government's decision to increase funding stand by the Government's decision to increase funding to stand by the Government's decision to increase funding to Maori stand by the Government's decision to increase funding to Maori health to increase funding to Maori health providers to increase funding to Maori health providers to to increase funding to Maori health providers to provide to increase funding to Maori health providers to provide ongoing to increase funding to Maori health providers to provide ongoing support providers to provide ongoing support to providers to provide ongoing support to Maori providers to provide ongoing support to Maori communities providers to provide ongoing support to Maori communities while to Maori communities while responding to Maori communities while responding to to Maori communities while responding to COVID-19. to Maori communities while responding to COVID-19. We to Maori communities while responding to COVID-19. We know to Maori communities while responding to COVID-19. We know we responding to COVID-19. We know we all responding to COVID-19. We know we all need responding to COVID-19. We know we all need to responding to COVID-19. We know we all need to do responding to COVID-19. We know we all need to do all responding to COVID-19. We know we all need to do all we responding to COVID-19. We know we all need to do all we can responding to COVID-19. We know we all need to do all we can to responding to COVID-19. We know we all need to do all we can to ensure all need to do all we can to ensure no-one all need to do all we can to ensure no-one is all need to do all we can to ensure no-one is left all need to do all we can to ensure no-one is left behind all need to do all we can to ensure no-one is left behind in all need to do all we can to ensure no-one is left behind in our no-one is left behind in our response no-one is left behind in our response to no-one is left behind in our response to COVID-19 no-one is left behind in our response to COVID-19 and no-one is left behind in our response to COVID-19 and that response to COVID-19 and that includes response to COVID-19 and that includes in response to COVID-19 and that includes in our response to COVID-19 and that includes in our vaccination includes in our vaccination programme. includes in our vaccination programme. Working includes in our vaccination programme. Working with includes in our vaccination programme. Working with Maori includes in our vaccination programme. Working with Maori and programme. Working with Maori and Pacific programme. Working with Maori and Pacific providers programme. Working with Maori and Pacific providers on programme. Working with Maori and Pacific providers on our programme. Working with Maori and Pacific providers on our COVID Pacific providers on our COVID response Pacific providers on our COVID response is Pacific providers on our COVID response is part Pacific providers on our COVID response is part of Pacific providers on our COVID response is part of that Pacific providers on our COVID response is part of that strategy. response is part of that strategy. Why response is part of that strategy. Why were response is part of that strategy. Why were protocols response is part of that strategy. Why were protocols not response is part of that strategy. Why were protocols not in response is part of that strategy. Why were protocols not in place response is part of that strategy. Why were protocols not in place to Why were protocols not in place to prevent Why were protocols not in place to prevent a Why were protocols not in place to prevent a COVID Why were protocols not in place to prevent a COVID positive Why were protocols not in place to prevent a COVID positive gang Why were protocols not in place to prevent a COVID positive gang member prevent a COVID positive gang member being prevent a COVID positive gang member being remanded prevent a COVID positive gang member being remanded to prevent a COVID positive gang member being remanded to an prevent a COVID positive gang member being remanded to an address prevent a COVID positive gang member being remanded to an address outside being remanded to an address outside of being remanded to an address outside of Auckland being remanded to an address outside of Auckland despite being remanded to an address outside of Auckland despite Government of Auckland despite Government having of Auckland despite Government having 18 of Auckland despite Government having 18 months of Auckland despite Government having 18 months to of Auckland despite Government having 18 months to plan of Auckland despite Government having 18 months to plan for having 18 months to plan for regional having 18 months to plan for regional lockdowns? having 18 months to plan for regional lockdowns? I having 18 months to plan for regional lockdowns? I refute having 18 months to plan for regional lockdowns? I refute the regional lockdowns? I refute the premise regional lockdowns? I refute the premise of regional lockdowns? I refute the premise of that regional lockdowns? I refute the premise of that member's regional lockdowns? I refute the premise of that member's question. premise of that member's question. Why premise of that member's question. Why are premise of that member's question. Why are New premise of that member's question. Why are New Zealanders premise of that member's question. Why are New Zealanders still premise of that member's question. Why are New Zealanders still not Why are New Zealanders still not able Why are New Zealanders still not able to Why are New Zealanders still not able to show Why are New Zealanders still not able to show digital Why are New Zealanders still not able to show digital proof Why are New Zealanders still not able to show digital proof they've able to show digital proof they've been able to show digital proof they've been vaccinated able to show digital proof they've been vaccinated when able to show digital proof they've been vaccinated when most able to show digital proof they've been vaccinated when most other been vaccinated when most other countries been vaccinated when most other countries have been vaccinated when most other countries have had been vaccinated when most other countries have had this been vaccinated when most other countries have had this system been vaccinated when most other countries have had this system in countries have had this system in place countries have had this system in place for countries have had this system in place for months? countries have had this system in place for months? 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With regards to the issues raiseds by councils, is there issues raiseds by councils, is there room issues raiseds by councils, is there room to issues raiseds by councils, is there room to consider issues raiseds by councils, is there room to consider their issues raiseds by councils, is there room to consider their concerns room to consider their concerns within room to consider their concerns within the room to consider their concerns within the context room to consider their concerns within the context of room to consider their concerns within the context of the room to consider their concerns within the context of the proposed within the context of the proposed reforms? within the context of the proposed reforms? Mr within the context of the proposed reforms? Mr Speaker, within the context of the proposed reforms? Mr Speaker, we've within the context of the proposed reforms? Mr Speaker, we've given reforms? Mr Speaker, we've given councils reforms? 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Customs continues to engage with small to continues to engage with small to medium continues to engage with small to medium enterprises continues to engage with small to medium enterprises through continues to engage with small to medium enterprises through its continues to engage with small to medium enterprises through its work medium enterprises through its work on medium enterprises through its work on APEC medium enterprises through its work on APEC 2021 medium enterprises through its work on APEC 2021 to medium enterprises through its work on APEC 2021 to learn medium enterprises through its work on APEC 2021 to learn more medium enterprises through its work on APEC 2021 to learn more about medium enterprises through its work on APEC 2021 to learn more about the on APEC 2021 to learn more about the opportunities on APEC 2021 to learn more about the opportunities and on APEC 2021 to learn more about the opportunities and challenges on APEC 2021 to learn more about the opportunities and challenges these opportunities and challenges these enterprises opportunities and challenges these enterprises face opportunities and challenges these enterprises face as opportunities and challenges these enterprises face as they opportunities and challenges these enterprises face as they navigate enterprises face as they navigate the enterprises face as they navigate the COVID-19 enterprises face as they navigate the COVID-19 environment enterprises face as they navigate the COVID-19 environment and enterprises face as they navigate the COVID-19 environment and ways enterprises face as they navigate the COVID-19 environment and ways in the COVID-19 environment and ways in which the COVID-19 environment and ways in which Customs the COVID-19 environment and ways in which Customs administration the COVID-19 environment and ways in which Customs administration can which Customs administration can support which Customs administration can support the which Customs administration can support the growth which Customs administration can support the growth of which Customs administration can support the growth of SMEs which Customs administration can support the growth of SMEs in which Customs administration can support the growth of SMEs in the support the growth of SMEs in the business. support the growth of SMEs in the business. 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How is Customs supporting question. How is Customs supporting the question. How is Customs supporting the import question. How is Customs supporting the import of question. How is Customs supporting the import of critical question. How is Customs supporting the import of critical supplies question. How is Customs supporting the import of critical supplies here the import of critical supplies here in the import of critical supplies here in Aotearoa the import of critical supplies here in Aotearoa as the import of critical supplies here in Aotearoa as well the import of critical supplies here in Aotearoa as well as the import of critical supplies here in Aotearoa as well as overseas? in Aotearoa as well as overseas? Customs in Aotearoa as well as overseas? Customs is in Aotearoa as well as overseas? Customs is working in Aotearoa as well as overseas? Customs is working closely in Aotearoa as well as overseas? Customs is working closely with Customs is working closely with industry Customs is working closely with industry groups Customs is working closely with industry groups and Customs is working closely with industry groups and other Customs is working closely with industry groups and other agencies industry groups and other agencies to industry groups and other agencies to ensure industry groups and other agencies to ensure no industry groups and other agencies to ensure no delays industry groups and other agencies to ensure no delays in industry groups and other agencies to ensure no delays in clearly to ensure no delays in clearly critical to ensure no delays in clearly critical supply to ensure no delays in clearly critical supply change to ensure no delays in clearly critical supply change goods critical supply change goods including critical supply change goods including the critical supply change goods including the COVID-19 critical supply change goods including the COVID-19 vaccine. including the COVID-19 vaccine. 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Customs recently led work to deliver Customs recently led work to deliver best Customs recently led work to deliver best practice Customs recently led work to deliver best practice administration Customs recently led work to deliver best practice administration to best practice administration to support best practice administration to support the best practice administration to support the rollout best practice administration to support the rollout of best practice administration to support the rollout of COVID-19 support the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines support the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines in support the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines in the support the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines in the APEC support the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines in the APEC region. support the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines in the APEC region. This vaccines in the APEC region. This was vaccines in the APEC region. This was a vaccines in the APEC region. This was a great vaccines in the APEC region. This was a great win, vaccines in the APEC region. This was a great win, not vaccines in the APEC region. This was a great win, not just vaccines in the APEC region. This was a great win, not just for vaccines in the APEC region. This was a great win, not just for New was a great win, not just for New Zealand was a great win, not just for New Zealand but was a great win, not just for New Zealand but also was a great win, not just for New Zealand but also the was a great win, not just for New Zealand but also the 21 was a great win, not just for New Zealand but also the 21 member Zealand but also the 21 member economies Zealand but also the 21 member economies to Zealand but also the 21 member economies to ensure Zealand but also the 21 member economies to ensure that Zealand but also the 21 member economies to ensure that COVID-19 economies to ensure that COVID-19 vaccine economies to ensure that COVID-19 vaccine and economies to ensure that COVID-19 vaccine and related economies to ensure that COVID-19 vaccine and related goods economies to ensure that COVID-19 vaccine and related goods flow vaccine and related goods flow across vaccine and related goods flow across borders vaccine and related goods flow across borders as vaccine and related goods flow across borders as quickly vaccine and related goods flow across borders as quickly and across borders as quickly and efficiently across borders as quickly and efficiently as across borders as quickly and efficiently as possible. across borders as quickly and efficiently as possible. 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Since the onset of COVID-19, Customs Since the onset of COVID-19, Customs has Since the onset of COVID-19, Customs has negotiated Since the onset of COVID-19, Customs has negotiated plans Since the onset of COVID-19, Customs has negotiated plans with Since the onset of COVID-19, Customs has negotiated plans with 350 has negotiated plans with 350 businesses has negotiated plans with 350 businesses on has negotiated plans with 350 businesses on around has negotiated plans with 350 businesses on around $130 has negotiated plans with 350 businesses on around $130 million businesses on around $130 million worth businesses on around $130 million worth of businesses on around $130 million worth of debt. businesses on around $130 million worth of debt. Of businesses on around $130 million worth of debt. Of that businesses on around $130 million worth of debt. Of that amount, businesses on around $130 million worth of debt. Of that amount, only worth of debt. Of that amount, only 30,000 worth of debt. Of that amount, only 30,000 remains worth of debt. Of that amount, only 30,000 remains outstanding. worth of debt. Of that amount, only 30,000 remains outstanding. Customs 30,000 remains outstanding. Customs has 30,000 remains outstanding. Customs has also 30,000 remains outstanding. Customs has also lessened 30,000 remains outstanding. Customs has also lessened the 30,000 remains outstanding. Customs has also lessened the load 30,000 remains outstanding. Customs has also lessened the load by has also lessened the load by allowing has also lessened the load by allowing refunds has also lessened the load by allowing refunds of has also lessened the load by allowing refunds of interest has also lessened the load by allowing refunds of interest and allowing refunds of interest and penalties allowing refunds of interest and penalties on allowing refunds of interest and penalties on repayment allowing refunds of interest and penalties on repayment plans. penalties on repayment plans. Measures penalties on repayment plans. Measures like penalties on repayment plans. Measures like these penalties on repayment plans. Measures like these provide Measures like these provide much-needed Measures like these provide much-needed breathing Measures like these provide much-needed breathing space Measures like these provide much-needed breathing space allowing much-needed breathing space allowing affected much-needed breathing space allowing affected businesses much-needed breathing space allowing affected businesses to much-needed breathing space allowing affected businesses to pivot much-needed breathing space allowing affected businesses to pivot if affected businesses to pivot if needed affected businesses to pivot if needed and affected businesses to pivot if needed and ultimately affected businesses to pivot if needed and ultimately build affected businesses to pivot if needed and ultimately build back needed and ultimately build back better. better. Question better. Question number better. Question number 12. 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In particular I want to thank farmers and Yes. In particular I want to thank farmers and irrigators Yes. In particular I want to thank farmers and irrigators to Yes. In particular I want to thank farmers and irrigators to their farmers and irrigators to their involvement farmers and irrigators to their involvement to farmers and irrigators to their involvement to ensure farmers and irrigators to their involvement to ensure the farmers and irrigators to their involvement to ensure the work farmers and irrigators to their involvement to ensure the work act involvement to ensure the work act of involvement to ensure the work act of the involvement to ensure the work act of the Water involvement to ensure the work act of the Water Services involvement to ensure the work act of the Water Services Bill involvement to ensure the work act of the Water Services Bill and of the Water Services Bill and confirm of the Water Services Bill and confirm that of the Water Services Bill and confirm that it of the Water Services Bill and confirm that it will of the Water Services Bill and confirm that it will work of the Water Services Bill and confirm that it will work according confirm that it will work according to confirm that it will work according to the confirm that it will work according to the scale, confirm that it will work according to the scale, complexity confirm that it will work according to the scale, complexity and confirm that it will work according to the scale, complexity and risk to the scale, complexity and risk profile to the scale, complexity and risk profile of to the scale, complexity and risk profile of drinking to the scale, complexity and risk profile of drinking water to the scale, complexity and risk profile of drinking water supplies profile of drinking water supplies so profile of drinking water supplies so that profile of drinking water supplies so that there profile of drinking water supplies so that there are profile of drinking water supplies so that there are more profile of drinking water supplies so that there are more appropriate so that there are more appropriate responses so that there are more appropriate responses for so that there are more appropriate responses for small so that there are more appropriate responses for small and so that there are more appropriate responses for small and rural responses for small and rural communities. communities. 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And if not, why not No. Pausing the conversation around No. Pausing the conversation around the No. Pausing the conversation around the reform No. Pausing the conversation around the reform agenda No. Pausing the conversation around the reform agenda will No. Pausing the conversation around the reform agenda will not No. Pausing the conversation around the reform agenda will not change the reform agenda will not change the the reform agenda will not change the scale, the reform agenda will not change the scale, size the reform agenda will not change the scale, size or the reform agenda will not change the scale, size or complexity the reform agenda will not change the scale, size or complexity of the reform agenda will not change the scale, size or complexity of the the scale, size or complexity of the challenge the scale, size or complexity of the challenge confronting the scale, size or complexity of the challenge confronting councils. challenge confronting councils. 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