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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Petitions Petitions have Petitions have been Petitions have been delivered Petitions have been delivered to Petitions have been delivered to the Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. to the Clerk for presentation. Petition to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of John to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of John Dennison to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of John Dennison requesting Petition of John Dennison requesting that Petition of John Dennison requesting that the Petition of John Dennison requesting that the House Petition of John Dennison requesting that the House initiate that the House initiate Council. Council. Petition Council. Petition of Council. Petition of Wendy Council. Petition of Wendy Baker Council. 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Those reports are set down Those reports are set down for Those reports are set down for consideration. The The Clerk The Clerk has The Clerk has been The Clerk has been informed The Clerk has been informed of The Clerk has been informed of the The Clerk has been informed of the introduction The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of bills. of the introduction of bills. Te of the introduction of bills. Te Pire of the introduction of bills. Te Pire mo of the introduction of bills. Te Pire mo te of the introduction of bills. Te Pire mo te Hararei of the introduction of bills. Te Pire mo te Hararei Tumatanui Te Pire mo te Hararei Tumatanui o Te Pire mo te Hararei Tumatanui o te Te Pire mo te Hararei Tumatanui o te Kahui Te Pire mo te Hararei Tumatanui o te Kahui o Te Pire mo te Hararei Tumatanui o te Kahui o Matariki/Te Te Pire mo te Hararei Tumatanui o te Kahui o Matariki/Te Kahui o te Kahui o Matariki/Te Kahui o o te Kahui o Matariki/Te Kahui o Matariki o te Kahui o Matariki/Te Kahui o Matariki Public o te Kahui o Matariki/Te Kahui o Matariki Public Holiday o te Kahui o Matariki/Te Kahui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill o te Kahui o Matariki/Te Kahui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill - o Matariki Public Holiday Bill - introduction. introduction. COVID-19 introduction. COVID-19 Response introduction. COVID-19 Response (Management COVID-19 Response (Management Measures) COVID-19 Response (Management Measures) Legislation COVID-19 Response (Management Measures) Legislation Bill COVID-19 Response (Management Measures) Legislation Bill - Measures) Legislation Bill - introduction. introduction. Those introduction. Those bills introduction. Those bills are introduction. Those bills are set introduction. Those bills are set down Those bills are set down for Those bills are set down for first Those bills are set down for first reading. for first reading. The for first reading. The House for first reading. The House comes for first reading. The House comes to for first reading. The House comes to Oral for first reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Minister of Finance: What Minister of Finance: What reports Minister of Finance: What reports has Minister of Finance: What reports has he Minister of Finance: What reports has he received What reports has he received on What reports has he received on the What reports has he received on the resilience What reports has he received on the resilience of What reports has he received on the resilience of the What reports has he received on the resilience of the New What reports has he received on the resilience of the New Zealand on the resilience of the New Zealand economy on the resilience of the New Zealand economy to on the resilience of the New Zealand economy to the on the resilience of the New Zealand economy to the impacts on the resilience of the New Zealand economy to the impacts of on the resilience of the New Zealand economy to the impacts of COVID-19? The The Hon The Hon Grant The Hon Grant Robertson. The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, the The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, the Government's The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, the Government's science- The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, the Government's science- and the Government's science- and health-led the Government's science- and health-led approach the Government's science- and health-led approach has the Government's science- and health-led approach has been health-led approach has been reflected health-led approach has been reflected in health-led approach has been reflected in the health-led approach has been reflected in the latest health-led approach has been reflected in the latest employment reflected in the latest employment figures. reflected in the latest employment figures. Statistics reflected in the latest employment figures. Statistics NZ reflected in the latest employment figures. Statistics NZ reported reflected in the latest employment figures. Statistics NZ reported that figures. Statistics NZ reported that seasonally figures. Statistics NZ reported that seasonally adjusted figures. Statistics NZ reported that seasonally adjusted filled figures. Statistics NZ reported that seasonally adjusted filled jobs figures. Statistics NZ reported that seasonally adjusted filled jobs grew seasonally adjusted filled jobs grew 0.7% seasonally adjusted filled jobs grew 0.7% in seasonally adjusted filled jobs grew 0.7% in August seasonally adjusted filled jobs grew 0.7% in August compared seasonally adjusted filled jobs grew 0.7% in August compared with seasonally adjusted filled jobs grew 0.7% in August compared with a seasonally adjusted filled jobs grew 0.7% in August compared with a month 0.7% in August compared with a month earlier. 0.7% in August compared with a month earlier. The 0.7% in August compared with a month earlier. The number 0.7% in August compared with a month earlier. The number of 0.7% in August compared with a month earlier. The number of jobs 0.7% in August compared with a month earlier. The number of jobs is 0.7% in August compared with a month earlier. The number of jobs is now earlier. The number of jobs is now 3.9% earlier. The number of jobs is now 3.9% above earlier. The number of jobs is now 3.9% above the earlier. The number of jobs is now 3.9% above the same earlier. The number of jobs is now 3.9% above the same time earlier. The number of jobs is now 3.9% above the same time last earlier. The number of jobs is now 3.9% above the same time last year. 3.9% above the same time last year. Westpac 3.9% above the same time last year. Westpac Bank 3.9% above the same time last year. Westpac Bank commented, 3.9% above the same time last year. Westpac Bank commented, "Strength Westpac Bank commented, "Strength came Westpac Bank commented, "Strength came despite Westpac Bank commented, "Strength came despite the Westpac Bank commented, "Strength came despite the country Westpac Bank commented, "Strength came despite the country being Westpac Bank commented, "Strength came despite the country being under came despite the country being under a came despite the country being under a COVID-19 came despite the country being under a COVID-19 lockdown came despite the country being under a COVID-19 lockdown for came despite the country being under a COVID-19 lockdown for the came despite the country being under a COVID-19 lockdown for the last came despite the country being under a COVID-19 lockdown for the last two a COVID-19 lockdown for the last two weeks a COVID-19 lockdown for the last two weeks of a COVID-19 lockdown for the last two weeks of the a COVID-19 lockdown for the last two weeks of the month." a COVID-19 lockdown for the last two weeks of the month." "As a COVID-19 lockdown for the last two weeks of the month." "As we've a COVID-19 lockdown for the last two weeks of the month." "As we've seen weeks of the month." "As we've seen on weeks of the month." "As we've seen on past weeks of the month." "As we've seen on past occasions, weeks of the month." "As we've seen on past occasions, the weeks of the month." "As we've seen on past occasions, the wage weeks of the month." "As we've seen on past occasions, the wage subsidy on past occasions, the wage subsidy scheme on past occasions, the wage subsidy scheme plays on past occasions, the wage subsidy scheme plays an on past occasions, the wage subsidy scheme plays an important on past occasions, the wage subsidy scheme plays an important role on past occasions, the wage subsidy scheme plays an important role in scheme plays an important role in keeping scheme plays an important role in keeping workers scheme plays an important role in keeping workers attached scheme plays an important role in keeping workers attached to scheme plays an important role in keeping workers attached to their keeping workers attached to their jobs, keeping workers attached to their jobs, with keeping workers attached to their jobs, with the keeping workers attached to their jobs, with the adjustment keeping workers attached to their jobs, with the adjustment most jobs, with the adjustment most likely jobs, with the adjustment most likely occurring jobs, with the adjustment most likely occurring in jobs, with the adjustment most likely occurring in a jobs, with the adjustment most likely occurring in a reduction jobs, with the adjustment most likely occurring in a reduction in likely occurring in a reduction in hours likely occurring in a reduction in hours worked." likely occurring in a reduction in hours worked." We likely occurring in a reduction in hours worked." We know likely occurring in a reduction in hours worked." We know the likely occurring in a reduction in hours worked." We know the impact likely occurring in a reduction in hours worked." We know the impact of hours worked." We know the impact of COVID-19 hours worked." We know the impact of COVID-19 has hours worked." We know the impact of COVID-19 has been hours worked." We know the impact of COVID-19 has been uneven, hours worked." We know the impact of COVID-19 has been uneven, and hours worked." We know the impact of COVID-19 has been uneven, and we COVID-19 has been uneven, and we will COVID-19 has been uneven, and we will continue COVID-19 has been uneven, and we will continue to COVID-19 has been uneven, and we will continue to work COVID-19 has been uneven, and we will continue to work with COVID-19 has been uneven, and we will continue to work with affected will continue to work with affected sectors will continue to work with affected sectors to will continue to work with affected sectors to support will continue to work with affected sectors to support them will continue to work with affected sectors to support them in will continue to work with affected sectors to support them in these sectors to support them in these uncertain sectors to support them in these uncertain times. sectors to support them in these uncertain times. What sectors to support them in these uncertain times. What other sectors to support them in these uncertain times. What other reports uncertain times. What other reports has uncertain times. What other reports has he uncertain times. What other reports has he seen uncertain times. What other reports has he seen on uncertain times. What other reports has he seen on the uncertain times. What other reports has he seen on the resilience uncertain times. What other reports has he seen on the resilience in uncertain times. What other reports has he seen on the resilience in the has he seen on the resilience in the jobs has he seen on the resilience in the jobs market? has he seen on the resilience in the jobs market? The has he seen on the resilience in the jobs market? The Government's has he seen on the resilience in the jobs market? The Government's plan jobs market? The Government's plan to jobs market? The Government's plan to secure jobs market? The Government's plan to secure our jobs market? The Government's plan to secure our recovery jobs market? The Government's plan to secure our recovery has jobs market? The Government's plan to secure our recovery has been to secure our recovery has been reflected to secure our recovery has been reflected in to secure our recovery has been reflected in New to secure our recovery has been reflected in New Zealanders' reflected in New Zealanders' perceptions reflected in New Zealanders' perceptions of reflected in New Zealanders' perceptions of the reflected in New Zealanders' perceptions of the jobs reflected in New Zealanders' perceptions of the jobs market. reflected in New Zealanders' perceptions of the jobs market. Last perceptions of the jobs market. Last week, perceptions of the jobs market. Last week, the perceptions of the jobs market. Last week, the quarterly perceptions of the jobs market. Last week, the quarterly Westpac week, the quarterly Westpac McDermott-Miller week, the quarterly Westpac McDermott-Miller Employment week, the quarterly Westpac McDermott-Miller Employment Index McDermott-Miller Employment Index rose McDermott-Miller Employment Index rose 1.8 McDermott-Miller Employment Index rose 1.8 points McDermott-Miller Employment Index rose 1.8 points to McDermott-Miller Employment Index rose 1.8 points to 105.7 McDermott-Miller Employment Index rose 1.8 points to 105.7 in rose 1.8 points to 105.7 in September, rose 1.8 points to 105.7 in September, as rose 1.8 points to 105.7 in September, as people rose 1.8 points to 105.7 in September, as people felt rose 1.8 points to 105.7 in September, as people felt optimistic September, as people felt optimistic about September, as people felt optimistic about their September, as people felt optimistic about their job September, as people felt optimistic about their job prospects September, as people felt optimistic about their job prospects despite about their job prospects despite the about their job prospects despite the lockdown. about their job prospects despite the lockdown. Confidence about their job prospects despite the lockdown. Confidence was about their job prospects despite the lockdown. Confidence was mixed the lockdown. Confidence was mixed across the lockdown. Confidence was mixed across the the lockdown. Confidence was mixed across the country, the lockdown. Confidence was mixed across the country, though, the lockdown. Confidence was mixed across the country, though, with the lockdown. Confidence was mixed across the country, though, with a across the country, though, with a solid across the country, though, with a solid gain across the country, though, with a solid gain in across the country, though, with a solid gain in Auckland across the country, though, with a solid gain in Auckland and solid gain in Auckland and Northland, solid gain in Auckland and Northland, and solid gain in Auckland and Northland, and declines solid gain in Auckland and Northland, and declines in solid gain in Auckland and Northland, and declines in more Northland, and declines in more tourism-heavy Northland, and declines in more tourism-heavy regions Northland, and declines in more tourism-heavy regions such Northland, and declines in more tourism-heavy regions such as tourism-heavy regions such as Nelson, tourism-heavy regions such as Nelson, Marlborough tourism-heavy regions such as Nelson, Marlborough and tourism-heavy regions such as Nelson, Marlborough and the tourism-heavy regions such as Nelson, Marlborough and the West Nelson, Marlborough and the West Coast. Nelson, Marlborough and the West Coast. Perceptions Nelson, Marlborough and the West Coast. Perceptions of Nelson, Marlborough and the West Coast. Perceptions of current Nelson, Marlborough and the West Coast. Perceptions of current job Coast. Perceptions of current job opportunities Coast. Perceptions of current job opportunities rose Coast. Perceptions of current job opportunities rose strongly, Coast. Perceptions of current job opportunities rose strongly, with opportunities rose strongly, with the opportunities rose strongly, with the balance opportunities rose strongly, with the balance of opportunities rose strongly, with the balance of households opportunities rose strongly, with the balance of households now opportunities rose strongly, with the balance of households now seeing the balance of households now seeing jobs the balance of households now seeing jobs as the balance of households now seeing jobs as plentiful. the balance of households now seeing jobs as plentiful. Westpac the balance of households now seeing jobs as plentiful. Westpac notes jobs as plentiful. Westpac notes that jobs as plentiful. Westpac notes that this jobs as plentiful. Westpac notes that this survey jobs as plentiful. Westpac notes that this survey question jobs as plentiful. Westpac notes that this survey question has jobs as plentiful. Westpac notes that this survey question has tended that this survey question has tended to that this survey question has tended to be that this survey question has tended to be a that this survey question has tended to be a useful that this survey question has tended to be a useful leading that this survey question has tended to be a useful leading indicator that this survey question has tended to be a useful leading indicator of to be a useful leading indicator of unemployment to be a useful leading indicator of unemployment and to be a useful leading indicator of unemployment and supports to be a useful leading indicator of unemployment and supports its to be a useful leading indicator of unemployment and supports its view unemployment and supports its view that unemployment and supports its view that unemployment unemployment and supports its view that unemployment will unemployment and supports its view that unemployment will actually unemployment and supports its view that unemployment will actually drop that unemployment will actually drop below that unemployment will actually drop below 4% that unemployment will actually drop below 4% in that unemployment will actually drop below 4% in the that unemployment will actually drop below 4% in the coming that unemployment will actually drop below 4% in the coming quarters. below 4% in the coming quarters. What below 4% in the coming quarters. What reports below 4% in the coming quarters. What reports has below 4% in the coming quarters. What reports has he below 4% in the coming quarters. What reports has he seen below 4% in the coming quarters. What reports has he seen on below 4% in the coming quarters. What reports has he seen on the What reports has he seen on the Government's What reports has he seen on the Government's debt What reports has he seen on the Government's debt servicing What reports has he seen on the Government's debt servicing costs What reports has he seen on the Government's debt servicing costs as Government's debt servicing costs as a Government's debt servicing costs as a result Government's debt servicing costs as a result of Government's debt servicing costs as a result of COVID-19? Government's debt servicing costs as a result of COVID-19? I Government's debt servicing costs as a result of COVID-19? I am Government's debt servicing costs as a result of COVID-19? I am aware Government's debt servicing costs as a result of COVID-19? I am aware of a result of COVID-19? I am aware of an a result of COVID-19? I am aware of an alarmist a result of COVID-19? I am aware of an alarmist and a result of COVID-19? I am aware of an alarmist and erroneous a result of COVID-19? I am aware of an alarmist and erroneous report an alarmist and erroneous report that an alarmist and erroneous report that we an alarmist and erroneous report that we are an alarmist and erroneous report that we are carrying an alarmist and erroneous report that we are carrying too an alarmist and erroneous report that we are carrying too much an alarmist and erroneous report that we are carrying too much in that we are carrying too much in response that we are carrying too much in response to that we are carrying too much in response to the that we are carrying too much in response to the COVID-19 that we are carrying too much in response to the COVID-19 pandemic response to the COVID-19 pandemic and response to the COVID-19 pandemic and that response to the COVID-19 pandemic and that our response to the COVID-19 pandemic and that our debt response to the COVID-19 pandemic and that our debt servicing response to the COVID-19 pandemic and that our debt servicing costs and that our debt servicing costs are and that our debt servicing costs are set and that our debt servicing costs are set to and that our debt servicing costs are set to overwhelm and that our debt servicing costs are set to overwhelm the and that our debt servicing costs are set to overwhelm the Budget. and that our debt servicing costs are set to overwhelm the Budget. I are set to overwhelm the Budget. I would are set to overwhelm the Budget. I would like are set to overwhelm the Budget. I would like to are set to overwhelm the Budget. I would like to reassure are set to overwhelm the Budget. I would like to reassure the are set to overwhelm the Budget. I would like to reassure the House, would like to reassure the House, particularly would like to reassure the House, particularly members would like to reassure the House, particularly members on would like to reassure the House, particularly members on the would like to reassure the House, particularly members on the other particularly members on the other side, particularly members on the other side, that particularly members on the other side, that this particularly members on the other side, that this is particularly members on the other side, that this is not particularly members on the other side, that this is not the particularly members on the other side, that this is not the case. side, that this is not the case. Under side, that this is not the case. Under this side, that this is not the case. Under this Government, side, that this is not the case. Under this Government, our side, that this is not the case. Under this Government, our net side, that this is not the case. Under this Government, our net debt Under this Government, our net debt is Under this Government, our net debt is well Under this Government, our net debt is well below Under this Government, our net debt is well below what Under this Government, our net debt is well below what was Under this Government, our net debt is well below what was forecast Under this Government, our net debt is well below what was forecast when is well below what was forecast when COVID is well below what was forecast when COVID struck is well below what was forecast when COVID struck last is well below what was forecast when COVID struck last year, is well below what was forecast when COVID struck last year, and is well below what was forecast when COVID struck last year, and indeed COVID struck last year, and indeed below COVID struck last year, and indeed below many COVID struck last year, and indeed below many of COVID struck last year, and indeed below many of the COVID struck last year, and indeed below many of the countries COVID struck last year, and indeed below many of the countries we below many of the countries we compare below many of the countries we compare ourselves below many of the countries we compare ourselves with below many of the countries we compare ourselves with in below many of the countries we compare ourselves with in the below many of the countries we compare ourselves with in the OECD. compare ourselves with in the OECD. Under compare ourselves with in the OECD. Under the compare ourselves with in the OECD. Under the careful compare ourselves with in the OECD. Under the careful stewardship compare ourselves with in the OECD. Under the careful stewardship of Under the careful stewardship of this Under the careful stewardship of this Government, Under the careful stewardship of this Government, debt Under the careful stewardship of this Government, debt core Under the careful stewardship of this Government, debt core Crown this Government, debt core Crown finance this Government, debt core Crown finance costs this Government, debt core Crown finance costs have this Government, debt core Crown finance costs have fallen this Government, debt core Crown finance costs have fallen as this Government, debt core Crown finance costs have fallen as a finance costs have fallen as a percentage finance costs have fallen as a percentage of finance costs have fallen as a percentage of GDP finance costs have fallen as a percentage of GDP from finance costs have fallen as a percentage of GDP from 1.5% finance costs have fallen as a percentage of GDP from 1.5% on percentage of GDP from 1.5% on average percentage of GDP from 1.5% on average between percentage of GDP from 1.5% on average between 2011 percentage of GDP from 1.5% on average between 2011 and percentage of GDP from 1.5% on average between 2011 and 2017 percentage of GDP from 1.5% on average between 2011 and 2017 to percentage of GDP from 1.5% on average between 2011 and 2017 to 1% average between 2011 and 2017 to 1% from average between 2011 and 2017 to 1% from 2018 average between 2011 and 2017 to 1% from 2018 to average between 2011 and 2017 to 1% from 2018 to 2021. average between 2011 and 2017 to 1% from 2018 to 2021. And average between 2011 and 2017 to 1% from 2018 to 2021. And in average between 2011 and 2017 to 1% from 2018 to 2021. And in fact, average between 2011 and 2017 to 1% from 2018 to 2021. And in fact, Mr from 2018 to 2021. And in fact, Mr Speaker, from 2018 to 2021. And in fact, Mr Speaker, The from 2018 to 2021. And in fact, Mr Speaker, The Treasury from 2018 to 2021. And in fact, Mr Speaker, The Treasury forecasts from 2018 to 2021. And in fact, Mr Speaker, The Treasury forecasts that Speaker, The Treasury forecasts that this Speaker, The Treasury forecasts that this will Speaker, The Treasury forecasts that this will fall Speaker, The Treasury forecasts that this will fall even Speaker, The Treasury forecasts that this will fall even further Speaker, The Treasury forecasts that this will fall even further over Speaker, The Treasury forecasts that this will fall even further over the this will fall even further over the next this will fall even further over the next four this will fall even further over the next four years. this will fall even further over the next four years. Debt this will fall even further over the next four years. Debt servicing next four years. Debt servicing costs next four years. Debt servicing costs are next four years. Debt servicing costs are set next four years. Debt servicing costs are set to next four years. Debt servicing costs are set to remain next four years. Debt servicing costs are set to remain lower next four years. Debt servicing costs are set to remain lower than costs are set to remain lower than countries costs are set to remain lower than countries like costs are set to remain lower than countries like Canada, costs are set to remain lower than countries like Canada, the costs are set to remain lower than countries like Canada, the UK costs are set to remain lower than countries like Canada, the UK and countries like Canada, the UK and Australia. countries like Canada, the UK and Australia. The countries like Canada, the UK and Australia. The Hon countries like Canada, the UK and Australia. The Hon Michael Australia. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. What What comfort What comfort will What comfort will that What comfort will that data What comfort will that data be What comfort will that data be on What comfort will that data be on jobs What comfort will that data be on jobs for What comfort will that data be on jobs for the What comfort will that data be on jobs for the 8,067 What comfort will that data be on jobs for the 8,067 people What comfort will that data be on jobs for the 8,067 people who What comfort will that data be on jobs for the 8,067 people who have jobs for the 8,067 people who have gone jobs for the 8,067 people who have gone onto jobs for the 8,067 people who have gone onto Jobseeker jobs for the 8,067 people who have gone onto Jobseeker Support jobs for the 8,067 people who have gone onto Jobseeker Support since jobs for the 8,067 people who have gone onto Jobseeker Support since 18 gone onto Jobseeker Support since 18 August, gone onto Jobseeker Support since 18 August, last gone onto Jobseeker Support since 18 August, last lockdown? gone onto Jobseeker Support since 18 August, last lockdown? Does gone onto Jobseeker Support since 18 August, last lockdown? Does he gone onto Jobseeker Support since 18 August, last lockdown? Does he agree August, last lockdown? Does he agree that August, last lockdown? Does he agree that the August, last lockdown? Does he agree that the longer August, last lockdown? Does he agree that the longer the August, last lockdown? Does he agree that the longer the lockdown August, last lockdown? 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Question No. 2 Government will support them back into work. Question No. 2 - Government will support them back into work. Question No. 2 - the into work. Question No. 2 - the Leader into work. Question No. 2 - the Leader of into work. Question No. 2 - the Leader of the into work. Question No. 2 - the Leader of the Opposition. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Prime Minister: Does Prime Minister: Does she Prime Minister: Does she stand Prime Minister: Does she stand by Prime Minister: Does she stand by all Prime Minister: Does she stand by all of Prime Minister: Does she stand by all of her Does she stand by all of her Government's Does she stand by all of her Government's statements Does she stand by all of her Government's statements and Does she stand by all of her Government's statements and actions? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon PM. The Rt Hon PM. Mr The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker - The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker - yes, The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker - yes, particularly The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker - yes, particularly the The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker - yes, particularly the progress The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker - yes, particularly the progress being The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker - yes, particularly the progress being made particularly the progress being made on particularly the progress being made on the particularly the progress being made on the Government's particularly the progress being made on the Government's Reconnecting particularly the progress being made on the Government's Reconnecting New on the Government's Reconnecting New Zealand on the Government's Reconnecting New Zealand framework on the Government's Reconnecting New Zealand framework for on the Government's Reconnecting New Zealand framework for reopening Zealand framework for reopening borders Zealand framework for reopening borders and Zealand framework for reopening borders and moving Zealand framework for reopening borders and moving to Zealand framework for reopening borders and moving to an borders and moving to an individualised borders and moving to an individualised risk-based borders and moving to an individualised risk-based model borders and moving to an individualised risk-based model for individualised risk-based model for quarantine-free individualised risk-based model for quarantine-free travel. individualised risk-based model for quarantine-free travel. In individualised risk-based model for quarantine-free travel. In August, quarantine-free travel. In August, we quarantine-free travel. In August, we announced quarantine-free travel. In August, we announced a quarantine-free travel. In August, we announced a phased quarantine-free travel. In August, we announced a phased approach quarantine-free travel. In August, we announced a phased approach to we announced a phased approach to reopening we announced a phased approach to reopening the we announced a phased approach to reopening the borders we announced a phased approach to reopening the borders with we announced a phased approach to reopening the borders with the we announced a phased approach to reopening the borders with the aim reopening the borders with the aim of reopening the borders with the aim of establishing reopening the borders with the aim of establishing new reopening the borders with the aim of establishing new testing reopening the borders with the aim of establishing new testing and of establishing new testing and vaccine of establishing new testing and vaccine checking of establishing new testing and vaccine checking systems of establishing new testing and vaccine checking systems in of establishing new testing and vaccine checking systems in the vaccine checking systems in the first vaccine checking systems in the first quarter vaccine checking systems in the first quarter of vaccine checking systems in the first quarter of 2022. vaccine checking systems in the first quarter of 2022. This vaccine checking systems in the first quarter of 2022. This week, first quarter of 2022. This week, Cabinet first quarter of 2022. This week, Cabinet confirmed first quarter of 2022. This week, Cabinet confirmed that, first quarter of 2022. This week, Cabinet confirmed that, from first quarter of 2022. This week, Cabinet confirmed that, from 4 Cabinet confirmed that, from 4 October, Cabinet confirmed that, from 4 October, RSE Cabinet confirmed that, from 4 October, RSE workers Cabinet confirmed that, from 4 October, RSE workers from Cabinet confirmed that, from 4 October, RSE workers from Vanuatu October, RSE workers from Vanuatu can October, RSE workers from Vanuatu can begin October, RSE workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving October, RSE workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving into October, RSE workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving into New October, RSE workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving into New Zealand. can begin arriving into New Zealand. From can begin arriving into New Zealand. From 12 can begin arriving into New Zealand. From 12 October, can begin arriving into New Zealand. From 12 October, quarantine-free From 12 October, quarantine-free travel From 12 October, quarantine-free travel for From 12 October, quarantine-free travel for RSE From 12 October, quarantine-free travel for RSE workers From 12 October, quarantine-free travel for RSE workers from From 12 October, quarantine-free travel for RSE workers from Tonga. travel for RSE workers from Tonga. This travel for RSE workers from Tonga. This will travel for RSE workers from Tonga. This will provide travel for RSE workers from Tonga. This will provide much travel for RSE workers from Tonga. This will provide much certainty travel for RSE workers from Tonga. This will provide much certainty for This will provide much certainty for growers This will provide much certainty for growers as This will provide much certainty for growers as they This will provide much certainty for growers as they gear This will provide much certainty for growers as they gear up This will provide much certainty for growers as they gear up for This will provide much certainty for growers as they gear up for summer growers as they gear up for summer and growers as they gear up for summer and autumn growers as they gear up for summer and autumn harvesting. growers as they gear up for summer and autumn harvesting. This growers as they gear up for summer and autumn harvesting. This week, and autumn harvesting. This week, the and autumn harvesting. This week, the Business and autumn harvesting. This week, the Business Self-Isolation and autumn harvesting. This week, the Business Self-Isolation Pilot the Business Self-Isolation Pilot will the Business Self-Isolation Pilot will begin, the Business Self-Isolation Pilot will begin, looking the Business Self-Isolation Pilot will begin, looking to the Business Self-Isolation Pilot will begin, looking to scale the Business Self-Isolation Pilot will begin, looking to scale up the Business Self-Isolation Pilot will begin, looking to scale up the will begin, looking to scale up the approach will begin, looking to scale up the approach as will begin, looking to scale up the approach as we will begin, looking to scale up the approach as we look will begin, looking to scale up the approach as we look forward will begin, looking to scale up the approach as we look forward to will begin, looking to scale up the approach as we look forward to 2022. approach as we look forward to 2022. Will approach as we look forward to 2022. Will Kiwis approach as we look forward to 2022. Will Kiwis overseas approach as we look forward to 2022. Will Kiwis overseas be approach as we look forward to 2022. Will Kiwis overseas be able approach as we look forward to 2022. Will Kiwis overseas be able to approach as we look forward to 2022. Will Kiwis overseas be able to come Will Kiwis overseas be able to come home Will Kiwis overseas be able to come home for Will Kiwis overseas be able to come home for Christmas Will Kiwis overseas be able to come home for Christmas under Will Kiwis overseas be able to come home for Christmas under her home for Christmas under her Government's home for Christmas under her Government's border home for Christmas under her Government's border plan? home for Christmas under her Government's border plan? Yes, home for Christmas under her Government's border plan? Yes, as Government's border plan? Yes, as they Government's border plan? Yes, as they are Government's border plan? Yes, as they are already Government's border plan? Yes, as they are already able Government's border plan? Yes, as they are already able to Government's border plan? 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The ones that were available around December go. The ones that were available around December and go. The ones that were available around December and January go. The ones that were available around December and January were around December and January were amongst around December and January were amongst the around December and January were amongst the first. around December and January were amongst the first. So around December and January were amongst the first. So it around December and January were amongst the first. So it is around December and January were amongst the first. So it is clear amongst the first. So it is clear that amongst the first. So it is clear that there's amongst the first. So it is clear that there's really amongst the first. So it is clear that there's really high amongst the first. So it is clear that there's really high demand. amongst the first. So it is clear that there's really high demand. And that there's really high demand. And the that there's really high demand. And the highest that there's really high demand. And the highest demand that there's really high demand. And the highest demand areas/regions that there's really high demand. And the highest demand areas/regions are the highest demand areas/regions are Australia the highest demand areas/regions are Australia first the highest demand areas/regions are Australia first and the highest demand areas/regions are Australia first and UK the highest demand areas/regions are Australia first and UK second. the highest demand areas/regions are Australia first and UK second. So Australia first and UK second. So that Australia first and UK second. So that gives Australia first and UK second. So that gives you Australia first and UK second. So that gives you a Australia first and UK second. So that gives you a bit Australia first and UK second. So that gives you a bit of Australia first and UK second. So that gives you a bit of a Australia first and UK second. So that gives you a bit of a sense Australia first and UK second. So that gives you a bit of a sense of that gives you a bit of a sense of where that gives you a bit of a sense of where people's that gives you a bit of a sense of where people's needs that gives you a bit of a sense of where people's needs are. that gives you a bit of a sense of where people's needs are. When that gives you a bit of a sense of where people's needs are. When it where people's needs are. When it comes where people's needs are. When it comes to where people's needs are. When it comes to the where people's needs are. When it comes to the self-isolation where people's needs are. When it comes to the self-isolation pilot, comes to the self-isolation pilot, we'll comes to the self-isolation pilot, we'll be comes to the self-isolation pilot, we'll be running comes to the self-isolation pilot, we'll be running that comes to the self-isolation pilot, we'll be running that through comes to the self-isolation pilot, we'll be running that through from we'll be running that through from October we'll be running that through from October through we'll be running that through from October through to we'll be running that through from October through to December. we'll be running that through from October through to December. The October through to December. The work October through to December. The work has October through to December. The work has been October through to December. The work has been done October through to December. The work has been done so October through to December. The work has been done so that, October through to December. The work has been done so that, then, October through to December. The work has been done so that, then, in work has been done so that, then, in 2022, work has been done so that, then, in 2022, once work has been done so that, then, in 2022, once we work has been done so that, then, in 2022, once we have work has been done so that, then, in 2022, once we have more work has been done so that, then, in 2022, once we have more vaccinated 2022, once we have more vaccinated New 2022, once we have more vaccinated New Zealanders, 2022, once we have more vaccinated New Zealanders, we'll 2022, once we have more vaccinated New Zealanders, we'll be 2022, once we have more vaccinated New Zealanders, we'll be in 2022, once we have more vaccinated New Zealanders, we'll be in a New Zealanders, we'll be in a position New Zealanders, we'll be in a position to New Zealanders, we'll be in a position to use New Zealanders, we'll be in a position to use that New Zealanders, we'll be in a position to use that more New Zealanders, we'll be in a position to use that more broadly position to use that more broadly and position to use that more broadly and we're position to use that more broadly and we're also position to use that more broadly and we're also investigating position to use that more broadly and we're also investigating the and we're also investigating the possibility and we're also investigating the possibility of and we're also investigating the possibility of shortened and we're also investigating the possibility of shortened isolation possibility of shortened isolation periods possibility of shortened isolation periods as possibility of shortened isolation periods as well. possibility of shortened isolation periods as well. The possibility of shortened isolation periods as well. The Hon possibility of shortened isolation periods as well. The Hon Chris periods as well. The Hon Chris Hipkins. periods as well. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has periods as well. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has the periods as well. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has the PM periods as well. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has the PM seen periods as well. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has the PM seen suggestions Hipkins. Has the PM seen suggestions that Hipkins. Has the PM seen suggestions that we Hipkins. Has the PM seen suggestions that we should Hipkins. Has the PM seen suggestions that we should both Hipkins. Has the PM seen suggestions that we should both not Hipkins. Has the PM seen suggestions that we should both not be Hipkins. Has the PM seen suggestions that we should both not be picking that we should both not be picking and that we should both not be picking and choosing that we should both not be picking and choosing who that we should both not be picking and choosing who can that we should both not be picking and choosing who can come that we should both not be picking and choosing who can come back that we should both not be picking and choosing who can come back into and choosing who can come back into the and choosing who can come back into the country, and choosing who can come back into the country, whilst and choosing who can come back into the country, whilst also and choosing who can come back into the country, whilst also imposing and choosing who can come back into the country, whilst also imposing a the country, whilst also imposing a greater the country, whilst also imposing a greater degree the country, whilst also imposing a greater degree of the country, whilst also imposing a greater degree of prioritisation the country, whilst also imposing a greater degree of prioritisation on greater degree of prioritisation on those greater degree of prioritisation on those who greater degree of prioritisation on those who have greater degree of prioritisation on those who have access greater degree of prioritisation on those who have access to greater degree of prioritisation on those who have access to managed those who have access to managed isolation those who have access to managed isolation spaces? those who have access to managed isolation spaces? 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We had a positive on Thursday member's asked his question. We had a positive on Thursday 23 member's asked his question. We had a positive on Thursday 23 September. a positive on Thursday 23 September. Prior a positive on Thursday 23 September. Prior to a positive on Thursday 23 September. Prior to that, a positive on Thursday 23 September. Prior to that, we a positive on Thursday 23 September. Prior to that, we had a positive on Thursday 23 September. Prior to that, we had a a positive on Thursday 23 September. Prior to that, we had a not a positive on Thursday 23 September. Prior to that, we had a not detected Prior to that, we had a not detected on Prior to that, we had a not detected on Tuesday Prior to that, we had a not detected on Tuesday the Prior to that, we had a not detected on Tuesday the 21st. Prior to that, we had a not detected on Tuesday the 21st. Question Prior to that, we had a not detected on Tuesday the 21st. Question No. Prior to that, we had a not detected on Tuesday the 21st. Question No. 3 on Tuesday the 21st. Question No. 3 - on Tuesday the 21st. Question No. 3 - Dr on Tuesday the 21st. Question No. 3 - Dr Gaurav on Tuesday the 21st. Question No. 3 - Dr Gaurav Sharma. on Tuesday the 21st. Question No. 3 - Dr Gaurav Sharma. Kia on Tuesday the 21st. Question No. 3 - Dr Gaurav Sharma. Kia ora, on Tuesday the 21st. Question No. 3 - Dr Gaurav Sharma. Kia ora, Mr - Dr Gaurav Sharma. Kia ora, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: Minister for COVID-19 Response: What Minister for COVID-19 Response: What recent Minister for COVID-19 Response: What recent announcements What recent announcements have What recent announcements have been What recent announcements have been made have been made on have been made on reconnecting have been made on reconnecting New have been made on reconnecting New Zealand on reconnecting New Zealand following on reconnecting New Zealand following COVID-19? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Yesterday, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Yesterday, I The Hon Chris Hipkins. Yesterday, I announced The Hon Chris Hipkins. Yesterday, I announced new The Hon Chris Hipkins. Yesterday, I announced new details The Hon Chris Hipkins. Yesterday, I announced new details of The Hon Chris Hipkins. Yesterday, I announced new details of the announced new details of the Government's announced new details of the Government's self-isolation announced new details of the Government's self-isolation pilot, Government's self-isolation pilot, part Government's self-isolation pilot, part of Government's self-isolation pilot, part of the Government's self-isolation pilot, part of the Reconnecting Government's self-isolation pilot, part of the Reconnecting New part of the Reconnecting New Zealanders part of the Reconnecting New Zealanders plan part of the Reconnecting New Zealanders plan that part of the Reconnecting New Zealanders plan that we part of the Reconnecting New Zealanders plan that we announced Zealanders plan that we announced back Zealanders plan that we announced back in Zealanders plan that we announced back in August. Zealanders plan that we announced back in August. We're Zealanders plan that we announced back in August. We're seeking back in August. We're seeking expressions back in August. We're seeking expressions of back in August. We're seeking expressions of interest back in August. We're seeking expressions of interest from back in August. We're seeking expressions of interest from up back in August. We're seeking expressions of interest from up to expressions of interest from up to 150 expressions of interest from up to 150 people expressions of interest from up to 150 people to expressions of interest from up to 150 people to participate expressions of interest from up to 150 people to participate in expressions of interest from up to 150 people to participate in this 150 people to participate in this pilot. 150 people to participate in this pilot. It's 150 people to participate in this pilot. It's aimed 150 people to participate in this pilot. It's aimed at 150 people to participate in this pilot. It's aimed at business pilot. It's aimed at business travellers pilot. It's aimed at business travellers allowing pilot. It's aimed at business travellers allowing them pilot. It's aimed at business travellers allowing them to pilot. It's aimed at business travellers allowing them to travel travellers allowing them to travel overseas travellers allowing them to travel overseas on travellers allowing them to travel overseas on a travellers allowing them to travel overseas on a short travellers allowing them to travel overseas on a short business travellers allowing them to travel overseas on a short business trip overseas on a short business trip and overseas on a short business trip and self-isolate overseas on a short business trip and self-isolate in overseas on a short business trip and self-isolate in approved and self-isolate in approved accommodation and self-isolate in approved accommodation for and self-isolate in approved accommodation for 14 and self-isolate in approved accommodation for 14 days and self-isolate in approved accommodation for 14 days from and self-isolate in approved accommodation for 14 days from their accommodation for 14 days from their return. accommodation for 14 days from their return. The accommodation for 14 days from their return. The pilot accommodation for 14 days from their return. The pilot will accommodation for 14 days from their return. The pilot will explore accommodation for 14 days from their return. The pilot will explore a accommodation for 14 days from their return. The pilot will explore a new return. The pilot will explore a new pathway return. The pilot will explore a new pathway of return. The pilot will explore a new pathway of entry return. The pilot will explore a new pathway of entry into return. The pilot will explore a new pathway of entry into New return. The pilot will explore a new pathway of entry into New Zealand pathway of entry into New Zealand and pathway of entry into New Zealand and it pathway of entry into New Zealand and it allows pathway of entry into New Zealand and it allows the pathway of entry into New Zealand and it allows the Government pathway of entry into New Zealand and it allows the Government to pathway of entry into New Zealand and it allows the Government to test and it allows the Government to test operational and it allows the Government to test operational readiness, and it allows the Government to test operational readiness, identify operational readiness, identify areas operational readiness, identify areas where operational readiness, identify areas where further operational readiness, identify areas where further work operational readiness, identify areas where further work is operational readiness, identify areas where further work is required areas where further work is required to areas where further work is required to scale areas where further work is required to scale up areas where further work is required to scale up this areas where further work is required to scale up this approach, areas where further work is required to scale up this approach, and areas where further work is required to scale up this approach, and to to scale up this approach, and to provide to scale up this approach, and to provide valuable to scale up this approach, and to provide valuable insights to scale up this approach, and to provide valuable insights into to scale up this approach, and to provide valuable insights into our provide valuable insights into our options provide valuable insights into our options for provide valuable insights into our options for the provide valuable insights into our options for the future. provide valuable insights into our options for the future. The provide valuable insights into our options for the future. The pilot's options for the future. The pilot's a options for the future. The pilot's a key options for the future. The pilot's a key step options for the future. The pilot's a key step in options for the future. The pilot's a key step in our options for the future. The pilot's a key step in our phased options for the future. The pilot's a key step in our phased approach options for the future. The pilot's a key step in our phased approach to a key step in our phased approach to reopening a key step in our phased approach to reopening the a key step in our phased approach to reopening the border a key step in our phased approach to reopening the border so a key step in our phased approach to reopening the border so that a key step in our phased approach to reopening the border so that New reopening the border so that New Zealanders reopening the border so that New Zealanders can reopening the border so that New Zealanders can reconnect reopening the border so that New Zealanders can reconnect with reopening the border so that New Zealanders can reconnect with the Zealanders can reconnect with the world Zealanders can reconnect with the world early Zealanders can reconnect with the world early next Zealanders can reconnect with the world early next year. Zealanders can reconnect with the world early next year. What Zealanders can reconnect with the world early next year. What other world early next year. What other recent world early next year. What other recent announcements world early next year. What other recent announcements have world early next year. What other recent announcements have been world early next year. What other recent announcements have been made recent announcements have been made regarding recent announcements have been made regarding self-isolating recent announcements have been made regarding self-isolating pilots? regarding self-isolating pilots? Yesterday, regarding self-isolating pilots? Yesterday, the regarding self-isolating pilots? Yesterday, the Government regarding self-isolating pilots? Yesterday, the Government announced Yesterday, the Government announced further Yesterday, the Government announced further details Yesterday, the Government announced further details of Yesterday, the Government announced further details of one-way further details of one-way quarantine-free further details of one-way quarantine-free travel further details of one-way quarantine-free travel arrangements quarantine-free travel arrangements with quarantine-free travel arrangements with Vanuatu, quarantine-free travel arrangements with Vanuatu, Samoa quarantine-free travel arrangements with Vanuatu, Samoa and quarantine-free travel arrangements with Vanuatu, Samoa and Tonga. quarantine-free travel arrangements with Vanuatu, Samoa and Tonga. RSE with Vanuatu, Samoa and Tonga. RSE workers with Vanuatu, Samoa and Tonga. RSE workers from with Vanuatu, Samoa and Tonga. RSE workers from Vanuatu with Vanuatu, Samoa and Tonga. RSE workers from Vanuatu can with Vanuatu, Samoa and Tonga. RSE workers from Vanuatu can begin workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving into workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving into New workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving into New Zealand workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving into New Zealand from workers from Vanuatu can begin arriving into New Zealand from 4 arriving into New Zealand from 4 October, arriving into New Zealand from 4 October, and arriving into New Zealand from 4 October, and Samoan arriving into New Zealand from 4 October, and Samoan and arriving into New Zealand from 4 October, and Samoan and Tongan October, and Samoan and Tongan workers October, and Samoan and Tongan workers can October, and Samoan and Tongan workers can start October, and Samoan and Tongan workers can start arriving October, and Samoan and Tongan workers can start arriving from October, and Samoan and Tongan workers can start arriving from 12 workers can start arriving from 12 October, workers can start arriving from 12 October, providing workers can start arriving from 12 October, providing much-needed October, providing much-needed certainty October, providing much-needed certainty for October, providing much-needed certainty for our October, providing much-needed certainty for our growers October, providing much-needed certainty for our growers as October, providing much-needed certainty for our growers as they certainty for our growers as they gear certainty for our growers as they gear up certainty for our growers as they gear up for certainty for our growers as they gear up for summer certainty for our growers as they gear up for summer and certainty for our growers as they gear up for summer and autumn gear up for summer and autumn harvesting. gear up for summer and autumn harvesting. People gear up for summer and autumn harvesting. People arriving gear up for summer and autumn harvesting. People arriving under harvesting. People arriving under this harvesting. People arriving under this scheme harvesting. People arriving under this scheme must harvesting. People arriving under this scheme must meet harvesting. People arriving under this scheme must meet strict harvesting. People arriving under this scheme must meet strict health this scheme must meet strict health conditions, this scheme must meet strict health conditions, including this scheme must meet strict health conditions, including a this scheme must meet strict health conditions, including a requirement conditions, including a requirement to conditions, including a requirement to be conditions, including a requirement to be vaccinated conditions, including a requirement to be vaccinated with conditions, including a requirement to be vaccinated with at conditions, including a requirement to be vaccinated with at least conditions, including a requirement to be vaccinated with at least one to be vaccinated with at least one dose to be vaccinated with at least one dose pre-departure, to be vaccinated with at least one dose pre-departure, they to be vaccinated with at least one dose pre-departure, they must dose pre-departure, they must complete dose pre-departure, they must complete a dose pre-departure, they must complete a period dose pre-departure, they must complete a period of dose pre-departure, they must complete a period of self-isolation complete a period of self-isolation on complete a period of self-isolation on arrival complete a period of self-isolation on arrival and complete a period of self-isolation on arrival and return complete a period of self-isolation on arrival and return negative on arrival and return negative COVID-19 on arrival and return negative COVID-19 tests on arrival and return negative COVID-19 tests at on arrival and return negative COVID-19 tests at Day on arrival and return negative COVID-19 tests at Day 0 on arrival and return negative COVID-19 tests at Day 0 and on arrival and return negative COVID-19 tests at Day 0 and Day on arrival and return negative COVID-19 tests at Day 0 and Day 5. COVID-19 tests at Day 0 and Day 5. Employers COVID-19 tests at Day 0 and Day 5. Employers will COVID-19 tests at Day 0 and Day 5. Employers will be COVID-19 tests at Day 0 and Day 5. Employers will be providing COVID-19 tests at Day 0 and Day 5. Employers will be providing the Employers will be providing the self-isolation Employers will be providing the self-isolation facilities. Employers will be providing the self-isolation facilities. This self-isolation facilities. This commencement self-isolation facilities. This commencement of self-isolation facilities. This commencement of quarantine-free commencement of quarantine-free travel commencement of quarantine-free travel for commencement of quarantine-free travel for RSE commencement of quarantine-free travel for RSE workers commencement of quarantine-free travel for RSE workers forms commencement of quarantine-free travel for RSE workers forms another travel for RSE workers forms another pilot travel for RSE workers forms another pilot scheme travel for RSE workers forms another pilot scheme that travel for RSE workers forms another pilot scheme that will travel for RSE workers forms another pilot scheme that will also travel for RSE workers forms another pilot scheme that will also test pilot scheme that will also test systems pilot scheme that will also test systems and pilot scheme that will also test systems and preparation pilot scheme that will also test systems and preparation for pilot scheme that will also test systems and preparation for a systems and preparation for a broader systems and preparation for a broader and systems and preparation for a broader and safe systems and preparation for a broader and safe reopening systems and preparation for a broader and safe reopening of systems and preparation for a broader and safe reopening of our broader and safe reopening of our borders. broader and safe reopening of our borders. Supplementary: borders. Supplementary: How borders. Supplementary: How do borders. Supplementary: How do these borders. Supplementary: How do these announcements borders. Supplementary: How do these announcements fit borders. Supplementary: How do these announcements fit into How do these announcements fit into the How do these announcements fit into the Government's How do these announcements fit into the Government's wider How do these announcements fit into the Government's wider plan How do these announcements fit into the Government's wider plan for the Government's wider plan for reconnecting the Government's wider plan for reconnecting with the Government's wider plan for reconnecting with the the Government's wider plan for reconnecting with the world? the Government's wider plan for reconnecting with the world? These reconnecting with the world? These two reconnecting with the world? These two pilots reconnecting with the world? These two pilots will reconnecting with the world? These two pilots will be reconnecting with the world? These two pilots will be critical reconnecting with the world? These two pilots will be critical for two pilots will be critical for reopening two pilots will be critical for reopening our two pilots will be critical for reopening our borders, two pilots will be critical for reopening our borders, moving two pilots will be critical for reopening our borders, moving to two pilots will be critical for reopening our borders, moving to an reopening our borders, moving to an individualised reopening our borders, moving to an individualised risk-based reopening our borders, moving to an individualised risk-based model reopening our borders, moving to an individualised risk-based model for individualised risk-based model for quarantine-free individualised risk-based model for quarantine-free travel. individualised risk-based model for quarantine-free travel. This quarantine-free travel. This individual quarantine-free travel. This individual risk-based quarantine-free travel. This individual risk-based approach individual risk-based approach requires individual risk-based approach requires new individual risk-based approach requires new systems individual risk-based approach requires new systems to individual risk-based approach requires new systems to be individual risk-based approach requires new systems to be set individual risk-based approach requires new systems to be set up, requires new systems to be set up, including requires new systems to be set up, including ongoing requires new systems to be set up, including ongoing work requires new systems to be set up, including ongoing work on requires new systems to be set up, including ongoing work on the including ongoing work on the development including ongoing work on the development of including ongoing work on the development of a including ongoing work on the development of a traveller including ongoing work on the development of a traveller health development of a traveller health declaration development of a traveller health declaration system, development of a traveller health declaration system, investigating declaration system, investigating new declaration system, investigating new testing declaration system, investigating new testing technology declaration system, investigating new testing technology forroom declaration system, investigating new testing technology forroom rapid new testing technology forroom rapid testing new testing technology forroom rapid testing on new testing technology forroom rapid testing on arrival new testing technology forroom rapid testing on arrival at new testing technology forroom rapid testing on arrival at airports, new testing technology forroom rapid testing on arrival at airports, and testing on arrival at airports, and reliable testing on arrival at airports, and reliable pre-departure testing on arrival at airports, and reliable pre-departure testing. reliable pre-departure testing. Obviously reliable pre-departure testing. Obviously right reliable pre-departure testing. Obviously right now, reliable pre-departure testing. Obviously right now, getting Obviously right now, getting vaccinated Obviously right now, getting vaccinated is Obviously right now, getting vaccinated is the Obviously right now, getting vaccinated is the No. Obviously right now, getting vaccinated is the No. 1 Obviously right now, getting vaccinated is the No. 1 thing vaccinated is the No. 1 thing everybody vaccinated is the No. 1 thing everybody can vaccinated is the No. 1 thing everybody can do vaccinated is the No. 1 thing everybody can do to vaccinated is the No. 1 thing everybody can do to be vaccinated is the No. 1 thing everybody can do to be protected everybody can do to be protected against everybody can do to be protected against COVID-19 everybody can do to be protected against COVID-19 to everybody can do to be protected against COVID-19 to help everybody can do to be protected against COVID-19 to help accelerate against COVID-19 to help accelerate our against COVID-19 to help accelerate our economic against COVID-19 to help accelerate our economic recovery against COVID-19 to help accelerate our economic recovery to against COVID-19 to help accelerate our economic recovery to remove against COVID-19 to help accelerate our economic recovery to remove the our economic recovery to remove the need our economic recovery to remove the need for our economic recovery to remove the need for lockdowns, our economic recovery to remove the need for lockdowns, and our economic recovery to remove the need for lockdowns, and to our economic recovery to remove the need for lockdowns, and to safely need for lockdowns, and to safely allow need for lockdowns, and to safely allow New need for lockdowns, and to safely allow New Zealand's need for lockdowns, and to safely allow New Zealand's borders need for lockdowns, and to safely allow New Zealand's borders to need for lockdowns, and to safely allow New Zealand's borders to begin allow New Zealand's borders to begin to allow New Zealand's borders to begin to reopen. allow New Zealand's borders to begin to reopen. Question allow New Zealand's borders to begin to reopen. Question No. allow New Zealand's borders to begin to reopen. Question No. 4 allow New Zealand's borders to begin to reopen. Question No. 4 - allow New Zealand's borders to begin to reopen. Question No. 4 - Dr allow New Zealand's borders to begin to reopen. Question No. 4 - Dr Shane to reopen. Question No. 4 - Dr Shane Reti. to reopen. Question No. 4 - Dr Shane Reti. Thank to reopen. Question No. 4 - Dr Shane Reti. Thank you, to reopen. Question No. 4 - Dr Shane Reti. Thank you, Mr to reopen. Question No. 4 - Dr Shane Reti. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: Minister of Health: Does Minister of Health: Does he Minister of Health: Does he stand Minister of Health: Does he stand by Minister of Health: Does he stand by his Minister of Health: Does he stand by his actions, Does he stand by his actions, if Does he stand by his actions, if any, if any, around if any, around hospital if any, around hospital resources around hospital resources and around hospital resources and waiting around hospital resources and waiting lists? The The Hon The Hon Andrew The Hon Andrew Little. The Hon Andrew Little. Yes The Hon Andrew Little. Yes and, The Hon Andrew Little. Yes and, in The Hon Andrew Little. Yes and, in particular, The Hon Andrew Little. Yes and, in particular, I The Hon Andrew Little. Yes and, in particular, I stand The Hon Andrew Little. Yes and, in particular, I stand by The Hon Andrew Little. Yes and, in particular, I stand by my The Hon Andrew Little. Yes and, in particular, I stand by my action The Hon Andrew Little. 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I, as Minister, don't receive those Minister, don't receive those requests. Minister, don't receive those requests. Funding Minister, don't receive those requests. Funding was Minister, don't receive those requests. Funding was made Minister, don't receive those requests. Funding was made available requests. Funding was made available and requests. Funding was made available and it requests. Funding was made available and it is requests. Funding was made available and it is for requests. Funding was made available and it is for the requests. Funding was made available and it is for the ministry requests. Funding was made available and it is for the ministry inilities and it is for the ministry inilities engagements and it is for the ministry inilities engagements with and it is for the ministry inilities engagements with DHBs and it is for the ministry inilities engagements with DHBs following engagements with DHBs following through engagements with DHBs following through on engagements with DHBs following through on the engagements with DHBs following through on the programmes engagements with DHBs following through on the programmes following through on the programmes following last through on the programmes following last year's through on the programmes following last year's lockdowns through on the programmes following last year's lockdowns to through on the programmes following last year's lockdowns to make last year's lockdowns to make hospitals last year's lockdowns to make hospitals better last year's lockdowns to make hospitals better prepared last year's lockdowns to make hospitals better prepared for hospitals better prepared for treating hospitals better prepared for treating COVID hospitals better prepared for treating COVID patients. hospitals better prepared for treating COVID patients. What hospitals better prepared for treating COVID patients. What action treating COVID patients. What action has treating COVID patients. What action has he treating COVID patients. What action has he taken treating COVID patients. What action has he taken to treating COVID patients. What action has he taken to address treating COVID patients. What action has he taken to address the treating COVID patients. 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We've also approved an additional $90 million year. We've also approved an additional $90 million in year. We've also approved an additional $90 million in this additional $90 million in this year's additional $90 million in this year's Budget additional $90 million in this year's Budget to additional $90 million in this year's Budget to continue additional $90 million in this year's Budget to continue to additional $90 million in this year's Budget to continue to assist year's Budget to continue to assist DHBs year's Budget to continue to assist DHBs with year's Budget to continue to assist DHBs with that year's Budget to continue to assist DHBs with that work. year's Budget to continue to assist DHBs with that work. The year's Budget to continue to assist DHBs with that work. The reality year's Budget to continue to assist DHBs with that work. The reality is DHBs with that work. The reality is lockdowns DHBs with that work. The reality is lockdowns and DHBs with that work. 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That will have continued in the most DHBs and hospitals. 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Since that time, the Ministry of lockdowns and outbreaks. Since that time, the Ministry of Health lockdowns and outbreaks. Since that time, the Ministry of Health has lockdowns and outbreaks. Since that time, the Ministry of Health has set time, the Ministry of Health has set up time, the Ministry of Health has set up a time, the Ministry of Health has set up a dedicated time, the Ministry of Health has set up a dedicated group time, the Ministry of Health has set up a dedicated group led time, the Ministry of Health has set up a dedicated group led by time, the Ministry of Health has set up a dedicated group led by Russel up a dedicated group led by Russel Simpson, up a dedicated group led by Russel Simpson, the up a dedicated group led by Russel Simpson, the CEO up a dedicated group led by Russel Simpson, the CEO of up a dedicated group led by Russel Simpson, the CEO of Whanganui up a dedicated group led by Russel Simpson, the CEO of Whanganui DHBb Simpson, the CEO of Whanganui DHBb on Simpson, the CEO of Whanganui DHBb on a Simpson, the CEO of Whanganui DHBb on a considerable Simpson, the CEO of Whanganui DHBb on a considerable programme Simpson, the CEO of Whanganui DHBb on a considerable programme of on a considerable programme of preparing on a considerable programme of preparing our on a considerable programme of preparing our hospitals on a considerable programme of preparing our hospitals for on a considerable programme of preparing our hospitals for future preparing our hospitals for future outbreaks preparing our hospitals for future outbreaks and preparing our hospitals for future outbreaks and a preparing our hospitals for future outbreaks and a new preparing our hospitals for future outbreaks and a new regime preparing our hospitals for future outbreaks and a new regime against preparing our hospitals for future outbreaks and a new regime against a outbreaks and a new regime against a highly outbreaks and a new regime against a highly vaccinated outbreaks and a new regime against a highly vaccinated population. highly vaccinated population. Question highly vaccinated population. Question No. highly vaccinated population. Question No. 5. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for ACC: Minister for ACC: What Minister for ACC: What recent Minister for ACC: What recent announcement What recent announcement has What recent announcement has she What recent announcement has she made has she made about has she made about improving has she made about improving health has she made about improving health and has she made about improving health and equity about improving health and equity outcomes about improving health and equity outcomes for about improving health and equity outcomes for women? On On behalf On behalf of On behalf of the On behalf of the Minister On behalf of the Minister for On behalf of the Minister for ACC, On behalf of the Minister for ACC, today On behalf of the Minister for ACC, today I On behalf of the Minister for ACC, today I announce On behalf of the Minister for ACC, today I announce that On behalf of the Minister for ACC, today I announce that we're today I announce that we're proposing today I announce that we're proposing to today I announce that we're proposing to amend today I announce that we're proposing to amend ACC today I announce that we're proposing to amend ACC legislation proposing to amend ACC legislation to proposing to amend ACC legislation to cover proposing to amend ACC legislation to cover more proposing to amend ACC legislation to cover more injuries proposing to amend ACC legislation to cover more injuries experienced to cover more injuries experienced by to cover more injuries experienced by women to cover more injuries experienced by women during to cover more injuries experienced by women during childbirth. by women during childbirth. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> This <INTERRUPTION> This change <INTERRUPTION> This change will <INTERRUPTION> This change will help <INTERRUPTION> This change will help up <INTERRUPTION> This change will help up to <INTERRUPTION> This change will help up to 18,000 This change will help up to 18,000 more This change will help up to 18,000 more women This change will help up to 18,000 more women per This change will help up to 18,000 more women per year This change will help up to 18,000 more women per year who This change will help up to 18,000 more women per year who will This change will help up to 18,000 more women per year who will be This change will help up to 18,000 more women per year who will be able more women per year who will be able to more women per year who will be able to receive more women per year who will be able to receive cover more women per year who will be able to receive cover for more women per year who will be able to receive cover for maternal more women per year who will be able to receive cover for maternal birth to receive cover for maternal birth injuries. to receive cover for maternal birth injuries. This to receive cover for maternal birth injuries. This important to receive cover for maternal birth injuries. This important change to receive cover for maternal birth injuries. This important change - injuries. This important change - the injuries. This important change - the first injuries. This important change - the first of injuries. This important change - the first of its injuries. This important change - the first of its kind, injuries. This important change - the first of its kind, and injuries. This important change - the first of its kind, and a injuries. 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Why is this change important? 85% scheme. Why is this change important? 85% of scheme. Why is this change important? 85% of women scheme. Why is this change important? 85% of women in scheme. 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This it's only fair that these injuries are covered too. This list it's only fair that these injuries are covered too. This list of are covered too. This list of birthing are covered too. This list of birthing injuries are covered too. This list of birthing injuries has are covered too. This list of birthing injuries has been are covered too. This list of birthing injuries has been developed birthing injuries has been developed and birthing injuries has been developed and tested birthing injuries has been developed and tested with birthing injuries has been developed and tested with ACC birthing injuries has been developed and tested with ACC and birthing injuries has been developed and tested with ACC and medical and tested with ACC and medical experts, and tested with ACC and medical experts, including and tested with ACC and medical experts, including specialists and tested with ACC and medical experts, including specialists and experts, including specialists and obstetrics experts, including specialists and obstetrics in experts, including specialists and obstetrics in gynaecology. experts, including specialists and obstetrics in gynaecology. What obstetrics in gynaecology. What feedback obstetrics in gynaecology. What feedback has obstetrics in gynaecology. What feedback has she obstetrics in gynaecology. What feedback has she seen obstetrics in gynaecology. What feedback has she seen on obstetrics in gynaecology. What feedback has she seen on today's feedback has she seen on today's announcement? feedback has she seen on today's announcement? The feedback has she seen on today's announcement? The New feedback has she seen on today's announcement? The New Zealand announcement? The New Zealand College announcement? The New Zealand College of announcement? The New Zealand College of Midwives announcement? The New Zealand College of Midwives have announcement? The New Zealand College of Midwives have welcomed College of Midwives have welcomed the College of Midwives have welcomed the change College of Midwives have welcomed the change in College of Midwives have welcomed the change in announcements, College of Midwives have welcomed the change in announcements, saying, the change in announcements, saying, "We the change in announcements, saying, "We are the change in announcements, saying, "We are very the change in announcements, saying, "We are very pleased the change in announcements, saying, "We are very pleased to the change in announcements, saying, "We are very pleased to see the change in announcements, saying, "We are very pleased to see that the change in announcements, saying, "We are very pleased to see that our "We are very pleased to see that our feedback "We are very pleased to see that our feedback - "We are very pleased to see that our feedback - along "We are very pleased to see that our feedback - along with "We are very pleased to see that our feedback - along with that "We are very pleased to see that our feedback - along with that from "We are very pleased to see that our feedback - along with that from many feedback - along with that from many others feedback - along with that from many others in feedback - along with that from many others in the feedback - along with that from many others in the sector feedback - along with that from many others in the sector - feedback - along with that from many others in the sector - was feedback - along with that from many others in the sector - was taken others in the sector - was taken seriously others in the sector - was taken seriously and others in the sector - was taken seriously and ACC's others in the sector - was taken seriously and ACC's approach others in the sector - was taken seriously and ACC's approach to others in the sector - was taken seriously and ACC's approach to this seriously and ACC's approach to this category seriously and ACC's approach to this category will seriously and ACC's approach to this category will be seriously and ACC's approach to this category will be reviewed." seriously and ACC's approach to this category will be reviewed." And, category will be reviewed." And, obstetrician category will be reviewed." And, obstetrician and category will be reviewed." And, obstetrician and Auckland category will be reviewed." And, obstetrician and Auckland University obstetrician and Auckland University lecturer obstetrician and Auckland University lecturer Dr obstetrician and Auckland University lecturer Dr Michelle obstetrician and Auckland University lecturer Dr Michelle Wise obstetrician and Auckland University lecturer Dr Michelle Wise said, lecturer Dr Michelle Wise said, "This lecturer Dr Michelle Wise said, "This enables lecturer Dr Michelle Wise said, "This enables women lecturer Dr Michelle Wise said, "This enables women to lecturer Dr Michelle Wise said, "This enables women to have lecturer Dr Michelle Wise said, "This enables women to have a lecturer Dr Michelle Wise said, "This enables women to have a whole "This enables women to have a whole other "This enables women to have a whole other source "This enables women to have a whole other source of "This enables women to have a whole other source of cover "This enables women to have a whole other source of cover for "This enables women to have a whole other source of cover for things other source of cover for things like other source of cover for things like physiotherapy, other source of cover for things like physiotherapy, which other source of cover for things like physiotherapy, which is other source of cover for things like physiotherapy, which is really like physiotherapy, which is really important like physiotherapy, which is really important to like physiotherapy, which is really important to get like physiotherapy, which is really important to get help like physiotherapy, which is really important to get help to like physiotherapy, which is really important to get help to recover like physiotherapy, which is really important to get help to recover and important to get help to recover and to important to get help to recover and to minimise important to get help to recover and to minimise symptoms." important to get help to recover and to minimise symptoms." Question important to get help to recover and to minimise symptoms." Question No. to minimise symptoms." Question No. 6 to minimise symptoms." Question No. 6 - to minimise symptoms." Question No. 6 - David to minimise symptoms." Question No. 6 - David Seymour. to minimise symptoms." Question No. 6 - David Seymour. Thank to minimise symptoms." Question No. 6 - David Seymour. Thank you, to minimise symptoms." Question No. 6 - David Seymour. Thank you, Mr 6 - David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. 6 - David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Ni 6 - David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Ni hao. 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I simply remind that member that the simply remind that member that the National simply remind that member that the National Party simply remind that member that the National Party late simply remind that member that the National Party late last simply remind that member that the National Party late last year simply remind that member that the National Party late last year and National Party late last year and early National Party late last year and early this National Party late last year and early this year National Party late last year and early this year were National Party late last year and early this year were demanding National Party late last year and early this year were demanding to early this year were demanding to know early this year were demanding to know whether early this year were demanding to know whether we early this year were demanding to know whether we were early this year were demanding to know whether we were going early this year were demanding to know whether we were going to early this year were demanding to know whether we were going to have know whether we were going to have access know whether we were going to have access to know whether we were going to have access to AstraZeneca know whether we were going to have access to AstraZeneca vaccines access to AstraZeneca vaccines because, access to AstraZeneca vaccines because, at access to AstraZeneca vaccines because, at that access to AstraZeneca vaccines because, at that point, access to AstraZeneca vaccines because, at that point, that access to AstraZeneca vaccines because, at that point, that was access to AstraZeneca vaccines because, at that point, that was the because, at that point, that was the vaccine because, at that point, that was the vaccine of because, at that point, that was the vaccine of choice because, at that point, that was the vaccine of choice for because, at that point, that was the vaccine of choice for some because, at that point, that was the vaccine of choice for some of because, at that point, that was the vaccine of choice for some of the vaccine of choice for some of the members vaccine of choice for some of the members opposite. vaccine of choice for some of the members opposite. They vaccine of choice for some of the members opposite. They were vaccine of choice for some of the members opposite. They were arguing members opposite. They were arguing that members opposite. They were arguing that we members opposite. They were arguing that we hadn't members opposite. They were arguing that we hadn't done members opposite. They were arguing that we hadn't done enough members opposite. They were arguing that we hadn't done enough to members opposite. They were arguing that we hadn't done enough to secure that we hadn't done enough to secure access that we hadn't done enough to secure access to that we hadn't done enough to secure access to that that we hadn't done enough to secure access to that vaccine, that we hadn't done enough to secure access to that vaccine, Mr that we hadn't done enough to secure access to that vaccine, Mr Speaker. access to that vaccine, Mr Speaker. The access to that vaccine, Mr Speaker. The decision access to that vaccine, Mr Speaker. The decision to access to that vaccine, Mr Speaker. The decision to increase access to that vaccine, Mr Speaker. The decision to increase the access to that vaccine, Mr Speaker. The decision to increase the order The decision to increase the order for The decision to increase the order for Pfizer The decision to increase the order for Pfizer was The decision to increase the order for Pfizer was made The decision to increase the order for Pfizer was made early The decision to increase the order for Pfizer was made early this The decision to increase the order for Pfizer was made early this year for Pfizer was made early this year - for Pfizer was made early this year - shortly for Pfizer was made early this year - shortly after for Pfizer was made early this year - shortly after we for Pfizer was made early this year - shortly after we made for Pfizer was made early this year - shortly after we made that - shortly after we made that decision, - shortly after we made that decision, the - shortly after we made that decision, the PM - shortly after we made that decision, the PM made - shortly after we made that decision, the PM made her - shortly after we made that decision, the PM made her call - shortly after we made that decision, the PM made her call to decision, the PM made her call to Pfizer decision, the PM made her call to Pfizer to decision, the PM made her call to Pfizer to see decision, the PM made her call to Pfizer to see how decision, the PM made her call to Pfizer to see how quickly decision, the PM made her call to Pfizer to see how quickly we decision, the PM made her call to Pfizer to see how quickly we could Pfizer to see how quickly we could get Pfizer to see how quickly we could get those Pfizer to see how quickly we could get those delivered. 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The proposed reforms focus on how this country can most focus on how this country can most efficiently focus on how this country can most efficiently and focus on how this country can most efficiently and effectively focus on how this country can most efficiently and effectively deliver efficiently and effectively deliver an efficiently and effectively deliver an investment efficiently and effectively deliver an investment of efficiently and effectively deliver an investment of $120 efficiently and effectively deliver an investment of $120 billion efficiently and effectively deliver an investment of $120 billion to efficiently and effectively deliver an investment of $120 billion to 185 an investment of $120 billion to 185 over an investment of $120 billion to 185 over the an investment of $120 billion to 185 over the next an investment of $120 billion to 185 over the next 30 an investment of $120 billion to 185 over the next 30 years an investment of $120 billion to 185 over the next 30 years to an investment of $120 billion to 185 over the next 30 years to transform over the next 30 years to transform water over the next 30 years to transform water outcomes over the next 30 years to transform water outcomes for over the next 30 years to transform water outcomes for all over the next 30 years to transform water outcomes for all New water outcomes for all New Zealanders. water outcomes for all New Zealanders. 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We've discovered the debt ceiling borrowing limit is the debt ceiling borrowing limit is a the debt ceiling borrowing limit is a significant the debt ceiling borrowing limit is a significant constraint the debt ceiling borrowing limit is a significant constraint and the debt ceiling borrowing limit is a significant constraint and that, a significant constraint and that, on a significant constraint and that, on the a significant constraint and that, on the whole, a significant constraint and that, on the whole, LGBs a significant constraint and that, on the whole, LGBs have a significant constraint and that, on the whole, LGBs have not a significant constraint and that, on the whole, LGBs have not funded on the whole, LGBs have not funded infrastructure on the whole, LGBs have not funded infrastructure deficits on the whole, LGBs have not funded infrastructure deficits sufficiently infrastructure deficits sufficiently to infrastructure deficits sufficiently to keep infrastructure deficits sufficiently to keep up infrastructure deficits sufficiently to keep up with infrastructure deficits sufficiently to keep up with maintenance, to keep up with maintenance, renewals to keep up with maintenance, renewals and to keep up with maintenance, renewals and growth. to keep up with maintenance, renewals and growth. 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We've the LTPs, supporting local jobs with local businesses. We've also the LTPs, supporting local jobs with local businesses. We've also worked local businesses. We've also worked together local businesses. We've also worked together on local businesses. We've also worked together on commencing local businesses. We've also worked together on commencing the local businesses. We've also worked together on commencing the companion together on commencing the companion conversation together on commencing the companion conversation on together on commencing the companion conversation on the together on commencing the companion conversation on the future together on commencing the companion conversation on the future for together on commencing the companion conversation on the future for local conversation on the future for local government conversation on the future for local government which, conversation on the future for local government which, at conversation on the future for local government which, at the conversation on the future for local government which, at the request conversation on the future for local government which, at the request of government which, at the request of the government which, at the request of the sector, government which, at the request of the sector, is government which, at the request of the sector, is designed government which, at the request of the sector, is designed to government which, at the request of the sector, is designed to ensure the sector, is designed to ensure that the sector, is designed to ensure that the the sector, is designed to ensure that the role the sector, is designed to ensure that the role and the sector, is designed to ensure that the role and function the sector, is designed to ensure that the role and function of that the role and function of councils that the role and function of councils remains that the role and function of councils remains integral that the role and function of councils remains integral to councils remains integral to achieving councils remains integral to achieving broader councils remains integral to achieving broader wellbeing councils remains integral to achieving broader wellbeing outcomes achieving broader wellbeing outcomes for achieving broader wellbeing outcomes for their achieving broader wellbeing outcomes for their communities. achieving broader wellbeing outcomes for their communities. Does achieving broader wellbeing outcomes for their communities. Does she for their communities. Does she consider for their communities. Does she consider that for their communities. Does she consider that the for their communities. Does she consider that the sector for their communities. Does she consider that the sector has consider that the sector has received consider that the sector has received enough consider that the sector has received enough information consider that the sector has received enough information to received enough information to support received enough information to support the received enough information to support the proposed received enough information to support the proposed Three received enough information to support the proposed Three Waters support the proposed Three Waters approach support the proposed Three Waters approach to support the proposed Three Waters approach to reform? support the proposed Three Waters approach to reform? 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Yes - and it is a challenging set of reforms and a challenging set of reforms and challenging a challenging set of reforms and challenging to a challenging set of reforms and challenging to digest. a challenging set of reforms and challenging to digest. 13 a challenging set of reforms and challenging to digest. 13 Cabinet challenging to digest. 13 Cabinet papers challenging to digest. 13 Cabinet papers have challenging to digest. 13 Cabinet papers have been challenging to digest. 13 Cabinet papers have been proactively papers have been proactively released papers have been proactively released through papers have been proactively released through the papers have been proactively released through the 3-year papers have been proactively released through the 3-year period, released through the 3-year period, along released through the 3-year period, along with released through the 3-year period, along with a released through the 3-year period, along with a number released through the 3-year period, along with a number of released through the 3-year period, along with a number of critical along with a number of critical reports. along with a number of critical reports. 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Additionally, engagement, and the overall case for change. Additionally, individual change. Additionally, individual councils change. Additionally, individual councils have change. Additionally, individual councils have spent change. Additionally, individual councils have spent their change. Additionally, individual councils have spent their own councils have spent their own resources councils have spent their own resources to councils have spent their own resources to commission councils have spent their own resources to commission contestable resources to commission contestable advice, resources to commission contestable advice, often resources to commission contestable advice, often because resources to commission contestable advice, often because they resources to commission contestable advice, often because they were advice, often because they were never advice, often because they were never in advice, often because they were never in favour advice, often because they were never in favour of advice, often because they were never in favour of reform. advice, often because they were never in favour of reform. Or advice, often because they were never in favour of reform. Or they never in favour of reform. Or they wanted never in favour of reform. 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That includes one particular area of mental trauma after the loss area of mental trauma after the loss of area of mental trauma after the loss of a area of mental trauma after the loss of a child area of mental trauma after the loss of a child - area of mental trauma after the loss of a child - that area of mental trauma after the loss of a child - that will area of mental trauma after the loss of a child - that will be area of mental trauma after the loss of a child - that will be worked area of mental trauma after the loss of a child - that will be worked on of a child - that will be worked on with of a child - that will be worked on with those of a child - that will be worked on with those whanau of a child - that will be worked on with those whanau and of a child - that will be worked on with those whanau and secondly of a child - that will be worked on with those whanau and secondly on with those whanau and secondly on the with those whanau and secondly on the development with those whanau and secondly on the development of with those whanau and secondly on the development of a with those whanau and secondly on the development of a bereavement the development of a bereavement pathway. the development of a bereavement pathway. Secondly, the development of a bereavement pathway. Secondly, we the development of a bereavement pathway. Secondly, we are the development of a bereavement pathway. Secondly, we are doing the development of a bereavement pathway. Secondly, we are doing much pathway. Secondly, we are doing much wider pathway. Secondly, we are doing much wider work pathway. Secondly, we are doing much wider work in pathway. Secondly, we are doing much wider work in the pathway. Secondly, we are doing much wider work in the area pathway. Secondly, we are doing much wider work in the area of wider work in the area of stocktaking wider work in the area of stocktaking maternal wider work in the area of stocktaking maternal mental wider work in the area of stocktaking maternal mental health stocktaking maternal mental health services stocktaking maternal mental health services to stocktaking maternal mental health services to guide stocktaking maternal mental health services to guide further services to guide further strengthening services to guide further strengthening of services to guide further strengthening of those services to guide further strengthening of those services. strengthening of those services. Question strengthening of those services. Question No. strengthening of those services. Question No. 12 strengthening of those services. Question No. 12 - strengthening of those services. Question No. 12 - Nicola strengthening of those services. Question No. 12 - Nicola Willis. Question No. 12 - Nicola Willis. Thank Question No. 12 - Nicola Willis. Thank you, Question No. 12 - Nicola Willis. Thank you, Mr Question No. 12 - Nicola Willis. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Minister of Immigration: Does Minister of Immigration: Does he Minister of Immigration: Does he stand Minister of Immigration: Does he stand by Does he stand by all Does he stand by all of Does he stand by all of his Does he stand by all of his statements Does he stand by all of his statements and Does he stand by all of his statements and actions all of his statements and actions regarding all of his statements and actions regarding migrant all of his statements and actions regarding migrant health all of his statements and actions regarding migrant health workers? The The Hon The Hon Kris The Hon Kris Faafoi. The Hon Kris Faafoi. Talofa, The Hon Kris Faafoi. Talofa, Mr The Hon Kris Faafoi. Talofa, Mr Speaker. The Hon Kris Faafoi. Talofa, Mr Speaker. Yes, The Hon Kris Faafoi. Talofa, Mr Speaker. Yes, as The Hon Kris Faafoi. Talofa, Mr Speaker. Yes, as I've The Hon Kris Faafoi. Talofa, Mr Speaker. Yes, as I've said The Hon Kris Faafoi. Talofa, Mr Speaker. Yes, as I've said on The Hon Kris Faafoi. Talofa, Mr Speaker. Yes, as I've said on a Speaker. Yes, as I've said on a number Speaker. Yes, as I've said on a number of Speaker. Yes, as I've said on a number of occasions, Speaker. Yes, as I've said on a number of occasions, the Speaker. Yes, as I've said on a number of occasions, the Government number of occasions, the Government acknowledges number of occasions, the Government acknowledges there number of occasions, the Government acknowledges there has number of occasions, the Government acknowledges there has been number of occasions, the Government acknowledges there has been an acknowledges there has been an impact acknowledges there has been an impact of acknowledges there has been an impact of the acknowledges there has been an impact of the closed acknowledges there has been an impact of the closed border acknowledges there has been an impact of the closed border on acknowledges there has been an impact of the closed border on our impact of the closed border on our wider impact of the closed border on our wider immigration impact of the closed border on our wider immigration system, impact of the closed border on our wider immigration system, causing wider immigration system, causing difficulties wider immigration system, causing difficulties for wider immigration system, causing difficulties for a wider immigration system, causing difficulties for a number wider immigration system, causing difficulties for a number of difficulties for a number of migrants difficulties for a number of migrants both difficulties for a number of migrants both onshore difficulties for a number of migrants both onshore and difficulties for a number of migrants both onshore and offshore. migrants both onshore and offshore. The migrants both onshore and offshore. The Government migrants both onshore and offshore. The Government has migrants both onshore and offshore. The Government has taken migrants both onshore and offshore. The Government has taken a migrants both onshore and offshore. The Government has taken a pragmatic The Government has taken a pragmatic approach The Government has taken a pragmatic approach to The Government has taken a pragmatic approach to manage The Government has taken a pragmatic approach to manage these The Government has taken a pragmatic approach to manage these impacts approach to manage these impacts where approach to manage these impacts where possible. approach to manage these impacts where possible. For approach to manage these impacts where possible. For example, where possible. For example, critical where possible. For example, critical health where possible. For example, critical health worker where possible. 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