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Julian Wilcox is joined by Māori politicians from across the political spectrum to dissect the 2023 election result and what it means for Māori.

Primary Title
  • The Hui: Post-Election Special (HD)
Date Broadcast
  • Sunday 15 October 2023
Start Time
  • 09 : 25
Finish Time
  • 09 : 59
Duration
  • 34:00
Series
  • 2023
Episode
  • 1
Channel
  • Three
Broadcaster
  • Warner Brothers Discovery New Zealand
Programme Description
  • Julian Wilcox is joined by Māori politicians from across the political spectrum to dissect the 2023 election result and what it means for Māori.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
  • Maori
Captioning Languages
  • English
  • Maori
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
Genres
  • Commentary
  • Community
  • Current affairs
  • Politics
  • Special
Hosts
  • Julian Wilcox (Presenter)
Contributors
  • Te Māngai Pāho / Māori Broadcasting Funding Agency (Funder)
  • Irirangi Te Motu / New Zealand On Air (Funder)
JUST GO TO SHOW THAT YOU CAN DO POLITICS IN A POSITIVE WAY. WHEN WE FIRST SAID A FEW YEARS AGO, THAT WE BECOME BACK, THEY ALL LAUGHED AT US. THEY ARE NOT LAUGHING NOW. KIA ORA KOUTOU. I'M RINGING UP TO CONGRATULATE YOU. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE EASY. THE LABOUR PARTY IS STILL HERE. WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, AND WE WILL GET UP AGAIN LIKE WE HAVE MANY TIMES BEFORE. ONCE AGAIN NEW ZEALAND IS ONCE AGAIN THE BEST LITTLE COUNTRY IT CAN BE. AND WE WILL GET THIS COUNTRY... ALL: BACK ON TRACK! THANK YOU EVERYONE. CAPTIONS BY LENA ERAKOVICH AND TOM CLARKE. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2023 HURI TU MAI KI TE AO MARAMA. KIA ORA. GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THIS, OUR HUI POST-ELECTION SPECIAL. TODAY, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE LEADING POLITICAL PARTIES JOINING US. SOME ARE HERE WITH ME IN STUDIO, ONE OF JOINING US FROM RUSSELL. LETS GET TO THEM NOW ` WE HAVE, FROM THE LABOUR PARTY, PEENI HENARE. FROM THE MAORI PARTY, JOHN TAMIHERE. AND FROM THE ACT PARTY, AND JOINING US LIVE FROM KORORAREKA, KAREN ROY. AND JOINING US LIVE FROM KORORAREKA, FROM THE NEW ZEALAND FIRST PARTY, SHANE JONES. MORENA. NATIONAL PARTY TOLD US THAT ONLY CHRIS BISHOP WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO MEDIA. WE WERE THEN INFORMED THAT HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TALK TO US. MARAMA DAVIDSON WILL JOIN US LATER ON. LET'S GET INTO IT. KAREN, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE GOVERNMENT. WILL IT BE YOU AND THE NATIONAL PARTY? THERE IS STILL NOT A CLAY SORT OF ANSWER. WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SPECIAL VOTES. WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A TWO-PARTY GOVERNMENT. BUT WE WILL MAKE IT WORK. I GUESS YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVE. HOW CAN IT WORK WITH WINSTON PETERS? I GUESS THAT IS A JOB FOR THE NEGOTIATIONS AND WORKING OUT WHO WANTS WHAT AND OUR CAUCUS TO GET TOGETHER IN SOME STAGE SOON AND HAVE A DISCUSSION AROUND THAT. WE HAVE GOT A FEW NEW MPS THAT HAVE COME . IN WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. I FORGOT TO CONGRATULATE THE PARTY ON TAMAKI. THAT MUST BE MASSIVE FOR ACT. I'M REALLY PROUD OF BROOKE. SPEAKING OF PARTIES THAT HAVE HAD A GOOD NIGHT, JOHN, CONGRATULATIONS. FOUR SEATS. OF COURSE, HAURAKI-WAIKATO WITH HANA-RAWHITI MAIPI-CLARKE. WHY DID THAT HAPPEN? I WANT TO GIVE A BIG MIHI TO NANAIA. SHE HAS BEEN A GREAT SERVANT. WHEN THERE IS A INTERGENERATIONAL SHIFT THAT IS OCCURRING, YOU HAVE SEEN THAT WITH HANNAH COMING THROUGH. OUR VOTER BASE IS BETWEEN 18 AND 45. THE BIGGEST COHORT OF VOTERS IN THE COUNTRY ARE 900,000 PAKEHAS OVER 50. APART FROM PEENI HENARE, MYSELF, AND SIS HERE, THEY ARE YOUNGER. TO TAKE MAHUTA OUT, THAT AS AN INSTITUTION IN THAT SEAT. THAT IS A REALLY SIGN. ONE OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE, DO YOU THINK MEKA HAS PAID THE PRICE FOR LEAVING THE LIVER PARTY? ONCE WE HAVE THAT INTELLIGENCE , THAT WOULD BE COOL. THE WAY IN WHICH MAORI VOTERS ARE TREATED AT BOOTHS IS UNACCEPTABLE. THE VOTES ARE GOING DOWN, THE POST INTO SPECIALS WHERE THEY OUR ON THE ROLES. NO OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BE TREATED LIKE THAT, UNACCEPTABLE. TO THINK THE RACE IS STILL ON AS A RESULT OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE BOOTHS? WE WILL LOOK AT THE LAWS SURROUNDING CONTESTING NOT NECESSARILY THE OUTCOME, BUT THE PROCESS. I DO WANT TO COME TO SHANE JONES RESENT RUSSELL. IN RUSSELL* WAS IT A BIG NIGHT, IT SOUNDED LIKE IT? THERE IS NOT... A CRAYFISH POT IN 100KM THAT WAS NOT EMPTIED. IT IS THE INDICATION OF THE HARD WORK OF THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT WINSTON AND THE TEAM HAS PUT HIM. HE IS THE ULTIMATE PHOENIX. I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD RECOGNISE THAT WINSTON HAS PULLED OFF THE IMPOSSIBLE BY LEADING OUR MOVEMENT BACK INTO PARLIAMENT. YOU TOLD ME HAPPY THROUGH LAST YEAR, THAT THE PUSH WAS GOING TO BE ON. THAT THERE WAS A MASSIVE VOTE OF DISAFFECTED PEOPLE THAT WAS OUT THERE GOING AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT, AND THAT HAS BEEN BORNE OUT, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE PARTY WAS ONLY ON 4%, NOT EVEN THAT AT THE BIDDING OF THE YEAR. GRADUATIONS ARE MAKING IT BACK TO PARLIAMENT, WILL YOU BE A PART OF THE NEXT GOVERNMENT? THE DECK OF CARDS BEING SHUFFLED. THE LAST FEW YEARS, THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE LOST THE SEAT, IN CASE, TWO SEATS, IN EACH OF THOSE SPECIAL COUNTS. WE ARE UNLIKELY TO KNOW WHAT LEVERAGED WE MAY HAVE WITH THE FORMATION OF A FUTURE GOVERNMENT. BUT IF HISTORICAL TRENDS REPRESENT ANYTHING OF VALUE, THEN IT IS UNLIKELY THAT THE NATIONALS WILL HOLD THE NUMBER OF VOTES THEY ENJOYED THIS MORNING. GIVEN ABOUT THAT YOU GOT, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE MORE ADVISABLE JUST TO GIVE CONFIDENCE IN SUPPLY AND SIT ON THE CROSSBENCHES ` IS THAT LIKELY? I'M SURE ALL THE PERMUTATIONS WILL BE ON THE TABLE, AS WAS THE CASE IN 2020, WE WILL JUST SEE ` DOES IT REMAIN THE CASE THAT THE NOW DECK OF CARDS WE HOLD THE JOKER? I WANT TO COME TO PEENI HENARE. WHAT WENT WRONG IN AUCKLAND? I I WE HAVE GOT TO LISTEN TO THE WAY THE WHANAU VOTE. IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE LIVER PARTY HAS NOT WORKED TO. WHEN I FIRST CAME IN, WE ONLY HAD 32 SEATS. SO THIS ISN'T NEW TERRITORY, WHICH IS WHY I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL REBUILD. WHO SHOULD LEAD THE REBUILD? THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL HAPPEN OVER THE COMING DAYS. OF RECEIPT, WE ARE A SMALLER PARTY THAN WE WERE. SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL HAPPEN. I AM SO HOPEFUL. PUT YOUR HAND, BRO. IS AN ACTUAL QUESTION ` MAORIDOM RECOGNISES YOUR LEADERSHIP CAPABILITY, NOT JUST FOR MAORIDOM, FOR THE PARTY, IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT, WOULD YOU PUT YOUR HAND UP? I AM HUMBLED BY THE SUPPORT. MY JOB IS TO REPRESENT TAMAKI MAKAURAU. WHAT WILL COME WILL COME. THERE IS MUCH MORE FROM THE PANEL COMING UP. JOHN TAMIHERE HAS GIVEN BACK FROM ROTORUA TO JOIN US. E HOKI MAI NEI KOUTOU KI TA TATOU HUI E WETEWETE ANA I NGA TATAU NUI O TE POTITANGA 2023. THIS IS THE HUI POST-ELECTION SPECIAL. WE HAVE PEENI HENARE, JOHN TAMIHERE, AND SHANE JONES WITH US. MARAMA DAVIDSON WILL JOIN US. KAREN, ONE OF THE BOTTOM LINE IS FOR THE ACT PARTY WAS A REFERENDUM ON THE TREATY, CHRISTOPHER LUXON RULED THAT OUT WE SPOKE TO HIM. IS THAT STILL A BOTTOM LINE TO THE ACT PARTY, AND IF SO WHY? I KNOW IT IS A TOP PRIORITY. WE HAVE CAMPAIGNED FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS ON THE DIVISION THAT HAS BEEN UP AND DOWN THE COUNTRY. AND WE WOULDN'T JUST TURN OUR BACK ON THAT FOR THE POWER IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE REALLY PUSHING FOR. WE SAW A POLL THAT SAID A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THE COUNTRY WANTS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS AND WAS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOTE ON THIS, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND THE CORRELATION TALKS AND SEE WILL BE GET. WILL YOUR LEADER BECOME DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER? IF HE IS, HE WILL NOT LET THAT BOTTOM LINE GO. WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE SPECIAL VOTES TO COME AND, OF COURSE, THERE IS STILL A LITTLE BIT OF UNCERTAINTY THERE. I AM NOT GOING TO SAY AN ABSOLUTE AND TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING, BUT I CAN'T TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED. YOU WILL ALSO CHILD POVERTY SPOKESPERSON FOR THE ACT PARTY - THAT WAS A PORTFOLIO HELD BY THE HONOURABLE MARAMA DAVIDSON - IS THAT OUR ROLE THAT YOU WANT TO HOLD ON A NEW GOVERNMENT? I CAME HERE TO FIGHT FOR CHILDREN AND CHILDREN'S ISSUES ALL AROUND - CHILDREN IN CARE, AND CHILDREN WHO ARE IN HOMES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY THE BEST FOR THEM. THAT IS SOMETHING I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT. I WANT EVERY CHILD TO HAVE THE BEST LIFE THAT THEY CAN. THIS IS CONFRONTING FOR A MAORI PARTY IN OPPOSITION - WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WHAT RAWIRI WAITITI SAID IN ONE OF THE DEBATES - WE STARTED ON A MARVELLOUS COALITION AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER IT FELL APART. WE HAVE BEEN SLOWLY WRESTLING THE PROMISED OF THE TREATY OVER TO OUR SIDE OF TOWN. NOBODY IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO UNRAVEL 50 YEARS OF PROGRESS AND OUR NATION BY USING THE RACE CARD AS A BAIT CARD RATHER THAN UNDERSTANDING THAT IN OUR LEGISLATION, ACROSS THE WHOLE FRAMEWORK, THE TREATY IS RECOGNISED. TO UNRAVEL THAT QUESTION THAT WILL CREATE SOME OF THE LARGEST CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE AND UNREST IN THE COUNTRY AND MR SEYMOUR KNOWS THAT. I WOULD TALK ABOUT THAT AT A LATER TIME BUT WE WILL NOT ACCEPT THE TREATY DISCOURSE AND NARRATIVE AFTER 50 YEARS TO BE TURNED OVER. THERE WILL BE THOSE THAT SAY IT HAPPENS BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN AUSTRALIA LAST NIGHT. ONCE YOU CAN CONTROL THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY, WE ARE A LARGE AND GROWING MINORITY, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO STOP, WE ARE THE OPPOSITION, ORGANISATIONALLY WILL BE LED OUT OF URBAN AREAS AS NORMAL BUT THERE WILL BE MAJOR CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. SHANE JONES, WE HAVE HEARD THE ACT PARTY, IT WAS A BOTTOM LINE. YOUR PARTY WAS NOT SHY OR TALKING ABOUT TREATY ISSUES, YOUR LEADER CERTAINLY WASN'T. AS THAT SOMETHING, IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE A PART OF THE GOVERNMENT, AFTER THE ELECTION DEPENDING WHERE WHICH WAY THE CARDS FALL IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WILL PUSH AND SUPPORT? I THINK JT IS RIGHT AND WINSTON HAS ALREADY OBSERVED THAT A REFERENDUM WILL ONLY DELIVER DIVISION. WE FEEL THAT THE TREATY HAS BEEN CUT FROM ITS HISTORIC MOORINGS. IT WAS NOT ONLY ABOUT THE MAORI VERSION OF THE TREATY. FORMALLY THEY ALWAYS A BILINGUAL AND BICULTURAL APPROACH TO THE TREATY AIDED BY THE DOCTRINE OF INDIGENOUS RIGHTS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS AN UN-PICKING OF THE TREATY, WE BOTH BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK AS MORE OF AN INTEGRATING FORCE. ACT ONLY WANT TO INTRODUCE A TYPE OF BREXIT IF THEY MANAGED TO PULL OFF THE REFERENDUM. IT IS AN RECRUITMENT DEVICE FOR THE MAORI PARTY. VERY MUCH NOT A SIGN OF SUPPORT FOR THE REFERENDUM. THERE WAS A COMMENT ON PANELS LAST NIGHT THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS TO YOU AND WINSTON PETERS TO UPHOLD THE ASPIRATIONS OF MAORIDOM. WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT RESPONSIBILITY THAT PEOPLE NOW SAYS THAT SQUARELY ON YOUR COLLECTIVE SHOULDERS? WINSTON WAS THE LAWYER IN 1975 WHEN LAND RIGHTS WERE SOUGHT TO BE TAKEN AWAY WITH A MASSIVE ESPLANADE RESERVE. THERE IS NOTHING THAT WINSTON AND I CAN BE TAUGHT ABOUT THE TREATY. WE WILL BRING BALANCE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE REQUIRED BUT WE ARE A PATRIOTIC, NATIONALIST PARTY, WE ARE NOT A PARTY THAT BUYS INTO THE NOTION OF NATIVE SOVEREIGNTY AND THAT THERE ARE MAORI RIGHTS SHORN OF DUTIES.... THAT IS AN INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE... THERE IS SOME LAUGHING GOING ON HERE AND SHAKING OF HEADS. WHEN YOU HEAR THAT WHAT YOU THINK? I AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED, OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE TREATY OF WAITANGI. WHAT WE ARE NOT SEEING HERE IS THAT DEMOCRACY DOES NOT WORK IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT THE TREATY ON THE TABLE, OUR PEOPLE WILL LOSE. THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE TO FIGHT FOR IT. WITH THE VOTE GOING THE WAY IT DID LAST NIGHT, SUGGEST THAT MANY NEW ZEALANDERS WANT IT OVER. I DISAGREE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE TREATY OF WAITANGI BEING IN ALL THE WORK THAT WE DO. OUR JOBS ARE TO PROTECT THE TREATY, AND I DO NOT THINK IT WILL HAPPEN UNDER A NATIONAL GOVERNMENT. SHANE, YOU SAID NOTORIOUSLY, AND FAMOUSLY, A BILLION TREES AND PLANT IT EVERYWHERE... ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED IN A PORTFOLIO THAT LOOKS AT THE PROVINCIAL GROWTH FUND. AND IRONY, IS A LOT OF THE RECIPIENTS OF THE LARGESS WERE SMALL RURAL MAORI COMMUNITIES. PEENI HENARE AND I HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS ABOUT THE TREATY BUT I AM VERY MUCH A REKEREKE POLITICIAN. I DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE HIGHFALUTIN DEBATES WHEN WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DO RIGHT DOWN THERE AT THE PUHA PATCH. CLEAR MESSAGES HAVE BEEN SENT. WE HAVE A JOB CONNECTED WITH OUR CONSTITUENCY, THE MESSAGE WAS CLEAR LAST NIGHT - WE CLEARLY HAVE A JOB TO DO. DO YOU THINK THE RESPONSIBILITY SITS ON THE LABOUR PARTY TO OPEN THE DOOR TO THE MAORI PARTY AND WORK MUCH MORE CLOSELY, POSITIVELY, OPENLY WITH TE PATI MAORI. DESPITE WHAT EVERYONE SAYS, JT AND I GET ON. WE I RESPECT THEM, WE ALWAYS FOCUS ON OUR WHANAU. OUR JOB IS TO REPRESENT OUR WHANAU. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO KAREN, UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO PUT YOU IN THE POSITION OF THE GOVERNMENT, , BUT WHEN YOU HEAR THIS CONVERSATION FROM OPPOSITION PARTIES AND THE FEAR THAT COMES ACROSS ABOUT MAORI POLICY, HOW DO YOU RESPOND? I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR NEW ZEALANDERS, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE MAORI PEOPLE'S LIFE WORSE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AND DUTIES AND EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE BEST THAT THEY CAN BE. THAT'S MY FOCUS. NOBODY COMES INTO GOVERNMENT TO MAKE PEOPLE'S LIVES WORSE. I WANT TO SEE THIS COUNTRY GROW AND BE PROSPEROUS FOR MAORI AND EVERYONE ELSE. IF I CAN WORK WITH YOU GUYS, AND MAKING LIFE ALL THAT BETTER FOR MAORI, I WILL DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR COUNTRY. WE NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS IN A CIVIL MATTER, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW... AND I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION. WE WILL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE. FOR SOME IT IS A HARD DAY, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. AFTER THE BREAK, WE HAVE MARAMA DAVIDSON JOINING US. WE ARE BACK. YOU ARE WATCHING THE HUI POST-ELECTION SPECIAL LIVE AND WE HAVE WITH US NOW THE CO-LEADER OF THE GREEN PARTY, MARAMA DAVIDSON. SHE HAS BEEN MEDIA ALL OVER THE PLACE THIS MORNING. . OR, CONGRATULATIONS. BIG RESULT FOR THE GREEN PARTY. LOOK LIKE 15%? THE POLES WERE VERY HIGH IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS. WE ARE AWARE THAT IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, IT WAS AVERAGING OUT A BIT LOWER THAN THAT. WAS REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT WE ARE HOLDING OUR HEAD HIGH. WE WERE DOING THAT BEFORE THE RESULTS. ARE CAMPAIGN WAS ABOUT PROTECTING THE EARTH, PROTECTING WHANAU AND PROTECTING WHAKAPAPA. WE HAVE ANOTHER FOUR MAORI PACIFIC` AT THE MOMENT WE ARE ON DARLENE. WE HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED OUR MALI PACIFIC CAUCUS WITH THESE INCREDIBLE PEOPLE. IT WAS A HARD NIGHT FOR THE LABOUR PARTY, WAS A HARD NIGHT FOR THE LEFT. I MIHI I TO THEM. THERE IS PAIN. I HAVE WORKED AS A MINISTER IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, I HAVE WORKED WITH MAORI AND LABOUR, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD OF THE WORK THAT REALLY AND PEENI HAVE DONE. FROM A WIDER PERSPECTIVE, IT FEELS LIKE NEW ZEALAND HAS GONE THE WAY OF THE WORLD, THE LEFT SIDE OF POLITICS HAS STARTED TO EVAPORATES, AND CENTRE-RIGHT PARTIES HAVE SWEPT THE FLOOR. I KNOW YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT RONGOTAI, AND CHLOE RETAINING HER SEAT. WHICH IS ANOTHER HISTORY MOMENT ` THE GREENS RETAINING AN ELECTRIC SUIT CONSECUTIVELY. IT FEELS LIKE THE LEFT SIDE OF POLITICS HAD A VERY POOR NIGHT LAST NIGHT ` WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT SAYS, AND WHY IS THAT THE CASE? IN THE CONTEXT OF THE BLUE WAVE, I DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PEOPLE WERE SEEKING CHANGE. IN THAT CONTEXT, THE FACT THAT THE GREENS AND MULTI-PARTY MAORI PARTY* HAVE INCREASED THEIR ELECTORATE, THAT SAYS A LOT. IT IS NOT JUST MAORI WHO CARE, IT IS ALSO THE GREENS. WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, AND TO BUILD ON, AND WITH OUR OTHER COLLEAGUES ACROSS PARLIAMENT, TO BUILD ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AND FLAX GROUPS MAHI. WE KNOW THAT TE AO MAORI ARE LOOKING FOR STRONG STAUNCH CLAIRE TREATY VALUES. WE HAVE BUILT THAT OVER DECADES. WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP DRILLING THAT HIM. WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP THAT DRILLING IN.* THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO PUT PEOPLE OFF, TO DOG WHISTLE, TO PUT PEOPLE OFF LOW INCOME WHANAU. TO DEHUMANISE PEOPLE WHO WERE TRYING TO DO THE BEST. HOW DO YOU ACTIVELY AND PASSIONATELY ADVOCATED FOR THOSE COMMITTEES IN OPPOSITION? HOW CAN YOU GAIN OUTCOMES FOR THEM WHEN YOU ARE UP AGAINST PARTIES AND POLICIES? LOOK AT AOTEAROA. LOOK AT I HISTORY OF LEADERSHIP AND MAKING CHANGE ON THE GROUND. WE HAVE GOT OUR OWN EXAMPLES. THE GREEN PARTY HAS ALWAYS BUILT OUR VOICE ON, IS THE AROHA DOING THE MAHI. WE HAVE GOT EXAMPLE IS ALREADY OF OUR PEOPLE DRIVING CHANGE. WE WERE SIMPLY AMPLIFYING THAT LEADERSHIP. WILL KEEP DOING THAT. I WANT TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE AT HOME ` WE HAVE BUILT OUR COMMUNITY, COLLABORATION, COMING TOGETHER, FOR MOTHER EARTH, WE WILL KEEP DOING THAT, WE HAVE SEEN THAT CAN MAKE CHANGE, AND THE GREENS HAVE ALWAYS ATTACHED OUR LEVERS TO THE COMMUNITY POWER. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A GENERATIONAL SHIFT IN MAORIDOM. INCREDIBLE PEOPLE COMING IN. TE AO MAORI CAN TAKE HOPE. THEY WILL HAVE SOME STAUNCH LEADERS IN THE. BY THE WAY, THE ALL BLACKS JUST WON 28-24. KIA AHATIA. KUA TAIRI AKE TE KETE KORERO KI KONEI. JOIN US FOR OUR HUI PROGRAMME THIS WEEK. WE HAVE OUR POLITICAL PANEL OF EXPERTS WITH US TO DISSECT THE POLITICIANS' KORERO, AND THE RESULTS. PROFESSOR ELLA HENRY, MORGAN GODFREY, AND MANI DUNLOP JOIN US ON THE HUI. AND WE LEAVE YOU WITH A LOOK BACK AT HOW POTI 2023 PLAYED OUT ` KIA MAU KI TE TURANGA O TAPUTAPUATEA. HAUMI E! HUI E! TAIKI E! PEOPLE ON THE MOVE. WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE ARE HEADED AS A MOVEMENT. (SING WAIATA) IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT YOU CAN DO POLITICS IN A POSITIVE WAY, AND YOU CAN FOCUS ON A TREATY CENTRED AOTEAROA. WHICH IS WHAT WE PROMISED WE WOULD DO. I MUST SAY THAT WHEN WE FIRST SAID A FEW YEARS AGO THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A COMEBACK, THEY WERE ALL LAUGHING AT US. THEY ARE NOT LAUGHING NOW. AUCKLAND CENTRAL FOR A SECOND TERM, RONGOTAI IS LOOKING REAL CLEAR. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. KIA ORA KOUTOU KATOA! (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) JUST RINGING UP TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON AN AWESOME CAMPAIGN, AND I KNOW YOU'RE WHANAU WILL BE SO PROUD OF YOU. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE EASY. THIS IS A BIG BLUE WAVE, AND IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY CHALLENGING TIME/ I HAVE BEEN INSPIRED BY NANAIA MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND THE LEADERSHIP SHE HAS CARRIED, WE HAVE SEEN A HUGE MASSIVE SUPPORT FOR THE MAORI PARTY, WHEN THE TIDE COMES IN BIG, IT ALMOST INVARIABLY GOES OUT AS WELL. THAT IS THE NATURE OF POLITICS. THE LABOUR PARTY ARE STILL HERE, WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, AND WE WILL GET UP AGAIN LIKE WE HAVE DONE MANY TIMES BEFORE. (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) IT IS A FUTURE OF CHANGE, A FUTURE OF REAL CHANGE, AND A FUTURE WHERE ONCE AGAIN, NEW ZEALAND IS THE BEST LITTLE COUNTRY THAT CAN BE. I CANNOT WAIT TO GET STUCK IN AND TO GET TO WORK, BECAUSE NEW ZEALANDERS HAVE CHOSEN CHANGE, AND OUR NEW GOVERNMENT WILL DELIVER IT.