WELCOME IN TWO BREAKFAST ON THIS WEDNESDAY THE 28th OF FEBRUARY. YES, WE ARE STILL IN FEBRUARY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US ON BREAKFAST THIS MORNING. IT IS ALMOST MARCH. HUMAN REMAINS ARE FOUND IN SEARCH FOR A MISSING SYDNEY COUPLE. THAT'S DESPITE THE ACCUSED, A FORMER COP, NOW CHARGED WITH TWO COUNTS OF MURDER, INITIALLY REFUSED TO COOPERATE. SO WHAT DOES THE INVESTIGATION FOCUS ON NOW? A CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGIST GIVES US HIS INSIGHT. THAT'S JUST AFTER 7. SMOKE-FREE NEW ZEALAND? NOT ANY MORE. WE ALL KNOW THE NEW GOVERNMENT BINNED OUR STRATEGY TO PERMANENTLY BAN TOBACCO PRODUCTS. BUT NOW IT'S BEEN REVEALED JUST HOW DETERMINED THEY WERE TO DO IT. THERE ARE MORE LEAKED DOCUMENTS, THIS TIME SHOWING THE ASSOCIATE HEALTH MINISTER REFUSED ALL OFFERS OF A COMPROMISE ON CIGARETTE SALES. COMPROMISES THAT MIGHT STILL HAVE HELPED BRING DOWN OUR SMOKING RATES. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH OUR SO-CALLED SMOKEFREE STRATEGY, AND WE'LL BE ASKING THAT MINISTER IN ABOUT 40 MINUTES TIME. PLUS, REMEMBER THIS GUY? # LET'S UNITE AGAINST COVID-19. # COVID-19 ANNOUNCEMENT. THAT'S A BIT FULL ON, ISN'T IT? THAT'S RIGHT. FOUR YEARS ON FROM THE FIRST COVID CASE ARRIVING IN NEW ZEALAND, THE PANDEMIC'S MOST RECOGNISABLE FACE SIR ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD JOINS US AFTER 8 O'CLOCK RIGHT. NOW IT'S 6 O'CLOCK. HERE'S CHRIS WITH THE NEWS. THE FIRST STEPS TOWARDS DISESTABLISHING THE MAORI HEALTH AUTHORITY WILL RESUME TODAY AFTER DEBATE IN PARLIAMENT STRETCHED LATE INTO LAST NIGHT. THE FIRST TWO STAGES OF THE AMENDMENT BILL, WHICH WOULD SEE TE AKA WHAI ORA SCRAPPED, PASSED YESTERDAY WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE THREE COALITION PARTIES, THOUGH THE REPEAL HAS SPARKED OUTRAGE FROM THE OPPOSITION. PARLIAMENT WILL CONVENE AGAIN AT 9am FOR FURTHER DEBATE AND A VOTE ON THE THIRD READING. THE RESERVE BANK'S SET FOR ITS FIRST OFFICIAL CASH RATE UPDATE OF THE YEAR LATER TODAY. MOST ECONOMISTS ARE EXPECTING THE OCR TO REMAIN AT 5.5%, BUT WITH HIGH INFLATION STILL LURKING, SOME ARE WARY OF AN HIKE. AN ANNOUNCEMENT IS EXPECTED AT 2pm THIS AFTERNOON. NEW DETAILS ARE EMERGING OF A POSSIBLE CEASEFIRE IN GAZA, WITH REPORTS THE PLAN IS FOR A 40-DAY PAUSE, WITH PALESTINIAN PRISONERS SWAPPED FOR ISRAELI HOSTAGES. 500 AID TRUCKS A DAY WOULD ALSO BE ALLOWED INTO THE BESIEGED TERRITORY, AND THERE'S HOPE IT COULD START NEXT WEEK. THE BBC'S YOLANDE KNELL REPORTS. AFTER NEARLY SIX MONTHS OF A BRUTAL WAR, GAZANS FEAR THE WORLD HAS FORGOTTEN THEM. BUT INTERNATIONAL NEGOTIATORS ARE PUSHING FOR AT LEAST A PAUSE IN THE FIGHTING. ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, IN THE JARRING SETTING OF AN ICE CREAM PARLOUR, PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS UPBEAT WHEN ASKED WHEN A NEW CEASE FIRE IN GAZA MIGHT COME. WELL, I HOPE BY THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEKEND` I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE WEEKEND. AT LEAST MY NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER TELLS ME THAT WE'RE CLOSE. WE'RE CLOSE AND NOT DONE YET. AND MY HOPE IS BY NEXT MONDAY, WE'LL HAVE A CEASE FIRE. AND TODAY, QATAR, A KEY MEDIATOR WITH HAMAS, SAYS THERE'S BEEN NO BREAKTHROUGH YET IN TALKS ON A NEW CEASE-FIRE DEAL THAT WOULD SEE ISRAELI HOSTAGES BEING RELEASED. THE MAIN STICKING POINT IS THAT ISRAEL WILL ONLY AGREE TO A TRUCE, WHILE HAMAS IS DEMANDING A COMPLETE END TO THE WAR. NOW AS THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS WORSENS, EXPERTS SAY MORE EFFECTIVE DELIVERIES ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED TO REACH SOME TWO MILLION PEOPLE, BUT THAT WILL REQUIRE FIGHTING TO STOP. POLISH FARMERS HAVE ADDED THEIR NOISY SUPPORT TO ONGOING PROTESTS ACROSS EUROPE. THEY GATHERED IN WARSAW AND THEN MARCHED AROUND 3km THROUGH THE CITY TO THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE. THEY'RE ANGRY ABOUT NEW ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND IMPORT DEALS WHICH THEY SAY MAKE THEIR LIVELIHOODS UNSUSTAINABLE. AND SPANISH FARMERS HAVE TAKEN A MORE DIRECT APPROACH, BLOCKING HIGHWAYS BEFORE BREAKING INTO TRUCKS AND THROWING THE IMPORTED PRODUCE ON THE GROUND. SPAIN'S AGRICULTURE MINISTER SAYS HE'LL MEET WITH FOOD-PRODUCING UNIONS THIS WEEK. TO SPORT, AND AHEAD OF THE FIRST TEST AT THE BASIN RESERVE, AUSTRALIAN BATTER USMAN KHAWAJA BELIEVES TEAM MATE STEVE SMITH IS ONE OF THE BEST TEST CRICKETERS THE GAME HAS SEEN. KHAWAJA HAS ARRIVED IN THE COUNTRY FOR THE OPENING TEST AGAINST THE BLACKCAPS IN THE CAPITAL, WASTING LITTLE TIME TO PRAISE SMITH. THE THING IS` OF THIS GENERATION, IS HE'S RIGHT UP THERE AS THE BEST TEST CRICKETER OF THIS GENERATION, SO IF ANYONE'S GONNA SCORE RUNS AT OPENING, IT'S STEVE SMITH, SO THERE'S NO DOUBT ON WHETHER` YOU CAN BAT HIM ANYWHERE. HE'LL SCORE RUNS. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. THE TEST IS SOLD OUT, BUT YOU CAN CATCH EVERY BALL LIVE AND FREE ON TVNZ+. MOANA PASIFIKA'S JUNIOR SIDE HAVE STARTED THE INAUGURAL OCEANIA RUGBY UNDER 20'S CHALLENGE WELL BEATING MANU SAMOA 27-20. MOANA PASIFIKA BUILDING MOMENTUM IN THE FIRST HALF. SAMOA UNABLE TO CATCH THEM IN THE SECOND. AT THE BACK. IT'S IN TO TUITUPOU. GOOD HANDS SAULALA. SAULALA OUT WIDE AND A LOT OF SPACE. AND HE'S GONNA GO OVER. THE BIG LOCK FOR MOANA PASIFIKA SCORES THEIR THIRD TRY. THE NEW COMPETITION AIMS TO DEVELOP PACIFIC TALENT FOR MOANA PASIFIKA AND THE FIJIAN DRUA SUPER RUGBY FRANCHISES. AND FINALLY, THE OWNERS OF WHAT WAS BRITAIN'S WONKIEST PUB HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO REBUILD IT AFTER A SUSPECTED ARSON ATTACK. THE APTLY NAMED 'CROOKED HOUSE PUB' BURNED DOWN LAST YEAR, AND AFTER MONTHS OF NEGOTIATIONS, THE COUNCIL HAS NOW ORDERED THE FORMER OWNERS TO REBUILD IT AS IT WAS, INCLUDING ITS DISTINCTIVE LEAN. THE POST-ARSON DEMOLITION WAS RULED TO BE UNLAWFUL. THE PUB MUST BE REBUILT WITHIN THREE YEARS. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` THE HEAVY RAIN HAS CLEARED HERE. A MAINLY FINE DAY WITH THE HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. SUNSHINE IN THE AFTERNOON FOR KAITAIA, REACHING A HIGH OF 24. ALSO FOR AUCKLAND. FURTHER SOUTH ` SIMILAR HERE. YOU CAN EXPECT A FINE DAY WITH SOME HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. BLUE SKIES FOR SOME OF YOU. 26 THE HIGH FOR WHAKATANE. A FRACTION WARMER FOR TAURANGA. TO THE EAST COAST ` IT'S A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY HERE, WITH SHOWERS DEVELOPING FOR YOUR AFTERNOON, TURNING HEAVY FOR SOME. TAKE YOUR JACKET OUT TODAY. MASTERTON, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 22. AND 25 FOR NAPIER. OVER TO THE WEST ` HIGH CLOUD CLEARING AND BECOMING FINE FOR SOME OF YOU, WITH THE ODD SHOWER FROM PALMERSTON NORTH THROUGH TO WELLINGTON. ARRIVING IN WELLY, IT'S WINDY, OF COURSE, WITH A HIGH OF 18. 24 FOR NEW PLYMOUTH. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU ` THE SOUTH ISLAND HIGH CLOUD WITH DRIZZLE FOR NELSON THROUGH TO KAIKOURA TODAY, BUT BLUE SKIES FOR YOU ON THE WEST COAST, LOOK AT THAT ` BEAUTIFUL. REACHING A HIGH OF 21 FOR ALL OF YOU. HEADING SOUTH ` IT'S A CLOUDY DAY DOWN HERE. SOME MORNING DRIZZLE GRADUALLY, CLEARING TO HIGH CLOUD FOR YOUR AFTERNOON. CHRISTCHURCH, 20 DEGREES. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` CLOUD WITH SOME SHOWERS THIS MORNING, CLEARING TO A FINE AFTERNOON OF HIGH CLOUD, WITH THE SUN COMING THROUGH FOR SOME OF YOU. MILFORD SOUND, 21. DUNEDIN, 16 IS YOUR HIGH. 350 SCHOOL BUILDING PROJECTS ARE UNDER REVIEW AFTER THE NEW GOVERNMENT SAYS IT DISCOVERED MAJOR COST BLOW-OUTS. IT'S A CLAIM BEING REJECTED BY LABOUR, WHICH SAYS THE EDUCATION MINISTER HAS FAILED TO BUDGET FOR MOUNTING CONSTRUCTION COSTS. BUT WHICHEVER WAY YOU SEE IT, FOR SCHOOL PRINCIPALS LIKE MIKE NEWELL FROM JAMES HARGEST COLLEGE IN INVERCARGILL, IT'S ALL JUST POLITICS WHEN HE JUST NEEDS NEW CLASSROOMS. MIKE NEWELL JOINS US NOW. GOOD MORNING, MIKE. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE ANY SIGN OF THOSE NEW CLASSROOMS ANY TIME SOON FOR YOU. WE ARE STILL PLAYING THE WAITING GAME, AND FOR US, IT HAS BEEN CLOSE TO 7 OR EIGHT YEARS FOR THIS PROCESS TO GET THE GO-AHEAD THAT THE BUILDINGS NEED DONE. AND THE PLANNING OF THE FIRST BUILDING TOOK TWO YEARS. NOTHING HAPPENS FAST. WHAT IS THE STATE OF YOUR BUILDINGS THAT YOU NEED NEW CLASSROOMS? WHAT IS THE CURRENT SITUATION? MANY OF THEM HAVE WATERTIGHTNESS ISSUES. WE HAVE A LOT OF LEAKS. THEY ARE 1960S, SO THEY ARE PRETTY TIRED. ONE OF THEM` YOU'VE GOT ROTTEN BITS EVERYWHERE. YOU ARE OUT WITH BUCKETS TRYING TO CATCH LEAKS. PUTTING GROOVES ON ALL BUILDINGS. ROOVES* SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU TRY TO DO TO A BUILDING. WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT PICTURES NOW OF BUCKETS LAID OUT AND HOLES IN THE CEILING. THIS MUST HAVE COST YOU QUITE A BIT TO REPAIR, I IMAGINE. MONEY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON A NEW WHITEBOARD OR OFFICE FURNITURE. YOU END UP CHASING YOUR TAIL. SOME OF THE REPAIRS DON'T WORK, BECAUSE WATER KEEPS COMING THROUGH. YOU ARE PATCHING IT. THAT IS A WASTE OF MONEY STOCK THAT IS A WASTE OF MONEY. IT IS. WE ARE WASTING MONEY ON ROOFS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PULLED DOWN. YOU'RE TOLD YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN YOUR BUILDING. WE ARE PUTTING A COAT OF PAINT ON BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME DOWN AT SOME STAGE. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE GOVERNMENT REVIEWING PROJECTS, EVEN ONES WHERE SOD HAS ALREADY BEEN TURNED? THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO HAVE A LOOK AT IT, AND FAIR ENOUGH. CAN THEY DO THAT WITHOUT STOPPING WORK? PART OF THE ISSUE IS AROUND GETTING REAL CLARITY AROUND WHAT IS HAPPENING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS ANY MORE MONEY. SO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET ROUND HERE ANYWAY. WE ARE THINKING THERE IS NOT MUCH THAT ACTUALLY CAN BE DONE IF WHAT WE ARE TOLD IS TRUE. WE JUST CAN'T HAVE A LONG REVIEW. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE MORE WORKING GROUPS AND WORKING PARTIES HAVE A LOOK AT IT, MORE CONSULTANTS, WE NEED ANSWERS. WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY, AND THE EDUCATION MINISTER HAS SAID MAJOR COST BLOWOUT, IT IS A MESS, UNPRECEDENTED SCALE, IS THE PROBLEM WITH THESE PROJECTS, HAVE YOU SEEN THE COST OF YOUR PROJECT BLOWOUT BY 100%-500%? THE COST WAS BETWEEN 13 MILLION AND $16 MILLION. THEY CAME AND JUST UNDER $24 MILLION THAN THEY DID THE COST OF IT. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COSTINGS AND WHAT YOU GET FOR THAT, ONE OF THE OTHER CRITICISMS WAS THAT A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS WERE BESPOKE. HAVE YOU GOT THE SPOKE CLASSROOMS FOR THAT $24 MILLION BUDGET? WE GOT LARGELY WHAT WE WANTED, BUT THERE ARE ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS, IT IS NOT THEIR FIRST RODEO ` THEY ARE WORKING OFF WHAT THEY'VE DONE BEFORE. YOU CAN HAVE A SET OF SEVEN DESIGNS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE TO CUT OUT A LOT OF THAT TIME. IT CAN BE IMPROVED. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ECONOMIES AND ERICA SANFORD USES THE WORD THE SPOKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SCHOOLS WOULD GET AN ARCHITECTS DESIGN. THERE IS ALWAYS SPECS AND MINISTRY RULES AND FORMULAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IT IS STARTING TO MOVE TOWARDS THERE BEING LESS CHOICE BUT BUILDINGS THAT ARE CLEARLY BEING USED NOW THAT ARE FIT FOR PURPOSE. THE NEW GOVERNMENT IS SAYING THE OLD GOVERNMENT IS THE ONE THAT GOT US INTO THIS POSITION. THE EDUCATION THAT COMMUNICATION FROM THE MINISTRY IS TO BLAME. WHO DO YOU PUT THE BLAME AT? IT IS RIDICULOUS TO START ONE SIDE BLAMING THE OTHER, BECAUSE THIS WASN'T CREATED UNDER ONE GOVERNMENT. THIS HAS BEEN YEARS OF UNDERDEVELOPMENT, AND THE TIMEFRAME IS TO GET ANYTHING DONE WITH THE BUREAUCRACY. SO I'M NOT REALLY INTO THE BLAME GAME. ONE COULD ARGUE THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF UNDERINVESTMENT FROM THE LAST TEAM. SO I'M NOT REALLY TOO BOTHERED ABOUT THAT STUFF. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS WINTER THEN, MIKE? BY EVERYONE SOME SLEEPING BAGS? GO TO MITRE 10 AND GET SOME BUCKETS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YOU'VE GOT TO FEEL FOR THEM. SO FRUSTRATING. $24 MILLION PAINTING A BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO BE TORN DOWN? THERE WAS A PRIZE LAST YEAR FOR $24 MILLION. THAT LOTTO COULD HAVE PAID FOR SOME NEW CLASSROOMS. SCHOOLS WANT TO CATER FOR THOSE STUDENTS IN THE SETUP THEY HAVE AT THEIR SCHOOL. THERE IS AN ARGUMENT ` WHY WASTE MONEY ON THAT AND ARCHITECTS COMING IN WHEN A CLASSROOM AS A CLASSROOM. MIKE SAID THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT DESIGNS. GOOD LUCK TO THEM. GOT TO FEEL FOR THEM, THOUGH. E WHAI AKE NEI ` WHY A REVIEW BY THE GOVERNMENT INTO THE ROLL OUT OF CAMERAS ON BOATS IS ALARMING MARINE EXPERTS. # I GOT NEW RULES, I COUNT THEM. # IT'S YOU, BABE. KIA ORA ANO. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. FISHERIES MINISTER SHANE JONES IS REVIEWING THE ROLL OUT OF CAMERAS ON COMMERCIAL FISHING BOATS. HE'S PROMISING TO CUT RED TAPE AS THE INDUSTRY RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT COSTS AND PRIVACY. WHAT WE'VE AGREED IS THAT THE MONEY SPENT TO DATE AND THE ROLL OUT OF THE CAMERAS WILL NOT BE REVERSED. HOWEVER, A REVIEW IS ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE SO WE CAN WORK OUT, IN THE EVENT THERE'S A FURTHER EXTENSION OF CAMERAS, HOW'S IT GONNA BE PAID FOR, WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR IT, AND HOW CAN THE CAMERA FOOTAGE BE USED AS A WAY OF ENHANCING MANAGEMENT OUTCOMES? IT HAS ALARMED MARINE EXPERTS. THEY SAY OUR MONITORING IS ALREADY POOR, AND ANY REDUCTION WILL LEAD TO MORE DOLPHIN DEATHS. FOR MORE, WE'RE JOINED BY UNIVERSITY OF OTAGO MARINE SCIENTIST PROFESSOR LIZ SLOOTEN. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS REVIEW? HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU ABOUT IT? WHAT THE MINISTER IS SAYING THAT CAMERAS GOING ON TWO BOATS IS GOING TO CONTINUE AND IT IS JUST A MATTER OF COST THAT WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE MONITORING. IT WOULD BE A SHAME IF IT WAS REVERSED, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME BIG SURPRISES ALREADY. FOR EXAMPLES, THE AMOUNT OF TRAWL NECKS IS MUCH HIGHER THAN EXPECTED. THERE HAVE BEEN SIX IN JUST A FEW MONTHS. MPI THINK IN THAT SAME AREA THERE ARE ONLY THREE IN A WHOLE YEAR. WE ARE GETTING SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH BY- CATCH IS OCCURRING. THERE ARE ONLY HALF OF THE COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSELS THAT HAVE THESE CAMERAS ON THEM AT THE MOMENT. THIS WILL THEN ROLL ONTO THE REST. TELL ME HOW IMPORTANT THESE CAMERAS ARE. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF OBSERVERS GOING OUT ON VESSELS, BUT THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN VERY LOW. THERE HAS BEEN ONE TRAWL CATCH THAT HAS BEEN SEEN BY AN OBSERVER IN THE 1990S. THAT TELLS YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE LEVEL OF COVERAGE. PUTTING CAMERAS ON ALLOWS YOU TO MONITOR A MUCH HIGHER PROPORTION. AS YOU SAY, SO FAR IN THE AREAS WHERE IT IS BEING ROLLED OUT, IT IS ROUGHLY HALF THE BOATS. THAT FISHERY OFF THE NORTH ISLAND WEST COAST HAS LESS THAN 10% COVERAGE, BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF VERY SMALL BOATS. SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DOLPHINS ARE STILL BEING CAUGHT ` MAUI DOLPHINS. WE HEARD FROM THE MINISTER IN THE INTRODUCTION, BUT THERE ARE TWO CONCERNS FROM THE MINISTRY ` ONE IS AROUND PRIVACY AND WHO HAS ACCESS TO THE VISION. THE OTHER IS AROUND COST. I WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON BOTH OF THOSE. LET'S ABOUT THE COST FIRST OF ALL. THE CONCERN IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SMALLER VESSELS, WHERE IT IS NOT FEASIBLE, THEY SAY, TO HAVE THE CAMERAS ON THERE, WHICH COST MORE THAN THE VESSELS THEMSELVES. AS THEIR VALIDITY AROUND THE ARGUMENT AROUND COST? SO FAR, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS PUTTING THE ENTIRE BILL OF PUTTING THE CAMERAS ON THE BOATS. FOOTING* AND THEY ARE BEING ASKED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ONGOING FUNDING TOWARDS MANAGEMENT OF IT, LIKE PEOPLE WATCHING THE VIDEO. THAT TO ME SEEMS LIKE A MASSIVE GOVERNMENT OR TAXPAYER SUBSIDY OF THE FISHING INDUSTRY. AND THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME OF THE SUBSIDY WAS GOING TO BE USED, FOR EXAMPLE, TO HELP PEOPLE TRANSITION FROM METHODS THAT KILL DOLPHINS TO METHODS THAT DON'T ` AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF THOSE. BUT SUBSIDISING A FISHING METHOD LIKE GILL NETS, WHICH ARE INCREDIBLY DAMAGING TO NOT JUST DOLPHINS BUT SEABIRDS AND OTHERS. THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE WAY TO GO. IF IT REALLY IS THAT EXPENSIVE TO MONITOR THESE FISHERIES WITHOUT THIS DAMAGE TO THE MARINE ENVIRONMENT, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT MOVING THESE METHODS OUT OF DOLPHIN HABITATS, AND THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO SO MUCH MONITORING, OR TRANSITIONING TO SELECTIVE, SUSTAINABLE FISHING METHODS. THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE FISHING INDUSTRY ITSELF. AT THE MOMENT, THEY ARE MINING DOLPHINS AND MINING FISH RESOURCES IN AN UNSUSTAINABLE, SHORTSIGHTED WAY. IT WOULD BE BRILLIANT IF THEY COULD LOOK AT THE 30 YEAR PLAN, RATHER THAN THE THREE-YEAR PLAN. WHAT ABOUT THE ARGUMENT THAT THIS POTENTIALLY COULD BREACH PRIVACY AND ALSO WHO HAS ACCESS TO THAT VISION? IF I COULD QUOTE JEREMY HOWSON FROM INSTEAD SEAFOOD ` CAMERAS AND PRIVATE WORKPLACES IS NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE IN NEW ZEALAND. A CONVERSATION AROUND PRIVACY NEEDS TO BE HAD. I IMAGINE TRUCK DRIVERS MAY NOT BE KEEN ON TRUCKING COMPANIES MONITORING AND SEEING HOW LONG THEY TAKE A BREAK FOR LUNCH, BUT THIS HAS LED TO HUGE IMPROVEMENTS AND ROAD SAFETY. LIKEWISE, I AM NOT TOO KEEN ON SPEED CAMERAS. I'VE BEEN CAUGHT FOUL ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS, BUT I AM PLEASED THERE IS A SPEED LIMIT AND PEOPLE KEEPING AND I OUT, OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE JUST DANGEROUS TO GET INTO YOUR CAR. AND THEN THERE ARE CAMERAS AND SUPERMARKETS. SAME ` I AM NOT TOO KEEN. BUT YOU ACCEPT IT. AND SO IN THIS CASE, IT IS REALLY JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. THIS IS A PUBLIC RESOURCE. THESE FRESH BELONG TO ALL OF US, AND THESE DOLPHINS AND SEABIRDS AND WHALES AND SO ON CERTAINLY DO. SO REALLY IT IS EITHER CAMERAS OR OBSERVERS. AND YOU COULD ARGUE THAT IF THE FISHERMEN HAD REPORTED ALL OF THE HUNDREDS OF DOLPHINS CAUGHT OVER THE YEARS, IF THEY HAD BEEN HONEST ALL OF THAT TIME, MAYBE WE WOULDN'T NEED CAMERAS NOW, BUT THE REPORTING RATE HAS BEEN ABOUT 1% ` THE SELF REPORTING RATE. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW, BECAUSE IT WILL ALL DEPEND ON THE NUMBER OF BOATS THAT HAVE CAMERAS ON, THE PROPORTION OF THAT FOOTAGE THAT ANYBODY IS LOOKING AT, HOW MANY DOLPHINS DROP OUT OF THE NET BEFORE IT COMES INTO VIEW OF THE CAMERAS. SO ALL THAT WILL NEED TO BE WORKED OUT, AND THAT WILL REQUIRE OBSERVERS ALONGSIDE CAMERAS, AT LEAST FOR A YEAR OR TWO, UNTIL WE'VE GOT THOSE THINGS SORTED OUT. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. 6:24. THIS MORNING, PROBABLY IN THE NEXT HOUR, WE ARE GOING TO BE TOUCHING ON A SUBJECT THAT PROBABLY INTERESTS A LOT OF KIWIS. IT IS ALCOHOL. WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS A SHIFT IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE DRINKING. THERE HAVE BEEN NEW FIGURES COMING OUT THAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DROPPING THE BOOZE. THEY ARE NOT PICKING IT UP; THERE PUTTING IT DOWN. SO WE WANT TO ASK YOU WHETHER YOU THINK I DRINKING CULTURE HAS CHANGED THERE IS A FALL OF 4.3% ` THIS IS FROM 2022 ` AND THE AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL ` BEER IN PARTICULAR ` THAT WE ARE BUYING. THAT IS NOT A GOOD SIGN FOR THE COMPANIES, BUT GOOD FOR US. IS IT JUST THE PRICE? YES. OR HAVE BECOME A SOCIETY THAT IS JUST NOT INTO ALCOHOL? CAN I SAY, I HAVE CONSCIOUSLY MADE THE DECISION NOT TO DRINK ALCOHOL IN THE LAST 2.5 WEEKS, BECAUSE I BECOME GRUMPY. I'M A TERRIBLE MOTHER, I WILL SAY IT THAT WAY. IMPATIENT, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO I'VE DECIDED I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT, BECAUSE I GET UP THE NEXT MORNING, I AM TIRED AND I WANT TO DO ANYTHING. AND I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER FOR IT. I CAN'T SAY THAT I AM NOT AS GRUMPY, BUT I FEEL A HECK OF A LOT BETTER OFF THE BOOZE. ANOTHER THING THAT CAME OUT OF THESE STATS WAS A DEMAND FOR 0% ALCOHOL HAS GONE UP IN THE LAST YEAR BY 8%. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, NOT THAT I SOCIALISE A HECK OF A LOT, BUT HAVING GONE TO A LOT OF THINGS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, PEOPLE ARE TAKING THEIR OWN 0% ALCOHOL. I APPLAUD THAT, AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS THE PRESSURE NOW TO ACTUALLY TURN UP AND DRINK. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE TASTE OF IT BUT THEY DON'T WANT THE ALCOHOL CONTENT OR THEY FEEL PRESSURE TO STILL WANT TO DRINK, BUT THEY NEED SOMETHING THAT IS NOT MORE ALCOHOL. BECAUSE FOR ME, A 0% BEER JUST DOESN'T TASTE AS GOOD. BUT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DRINK, I JUST WON'T HAVE A BEER. JUST HAVE SOME WATER OR WHATEVER. I LIKE A DRINK. I ENJOY A GLASS OF RED EVERY DAY, JUST QUIETLY. LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. IT IS 6:26. OH, YOUR FEEDBACK IS COMING IN ALREADY. ME U TONU MAI ` WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THE BREAK WITH YOUR 6.30 NEWS. PLUS, ARE YOU DRINKING LESS THAN YOU USED TO? WE WILL GET TO YOUR FEEDBACK NEXT. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. AN INVERCARGILL HIGH SCHOOL THAT HAS WAITED NEARLY A DECADE FOR NEW BUILDINGS IS PLEADING FOR THE MUCH-NEEDED CLASSROOMS, SAYING THE POLITICS DON'T MATTER. THE GOVERNMENT HAS ANNOUNCED A PAUSE ON 20 SCHOOL BUILDING PROJECTS WHILE AN INQUIRY INTO COST BLOW-OUTS IS COMPLETED. JAMES HARGEST COLLEGE'S MIKE NEWELL IS HOPEFUL THIS MIGHT FIX SYSTEMIC ISSUES, BUT BUILDINGS JUST NEED TO BE BUILT. THIS WASN'T CREATED UNDER ONE GOVERNMENT; THIS HAS BEEN YEARS OF UNDER-DEVELOPMENT AND THE TIME FRAMES TO GET ANYTHING DONE WITH THE BUREAUCRACY, SO, YEAH, I'M NOT REALLY INTO THE BLAME GAME. ONE COULD ARGUE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF UNDERINVESTMENT FROM THE LAST TEAM. MIKE NEWELL TOLD BREAKFAST A CEILING COLLAPSED ON A STUDENT BECAUSE OF LEAKS 18 MONTHS AGO. THE STUDENT WAS UNHARMED. THE GOVERNMENT WILL CONTINUE ITS PLANS TO DISESTABLISHING THE MAORI HEALTH AUTHORITY WHEN PARLIAMENT RESUMES TODAY AFTER DEBATE STRETCHED LATE INTO LAST NIGHT. THE FIRST TWO STAGES OF THE AMENDMENT BILL, WHICH WOULD SEE TE AKA WHAI ORA SCRAPPED, PASSED YESTERDAY UNDER URGENCY WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE THREE COALITION PARTNERS. THE REPEAL HAS SPARKED OUTRAGE FROM THE OPPOSITION. PARLIAMENT WILL CONVENE AT 9am FOR FURTHER DEBATE AND A VOTE ON THE THIRD READING. A POTENTIAL ROLL BACK OF SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS ON COMMERCIAL FISHING BOATS IS CONCERNING MARINE EXPERTS. IT COMES AS FISHERIES MINISTER SHANE JONES REVIEWS THE ROLLOUT IT COMES AS FISHERIES MINISTER SHANE JONES REVIEWS THE ROLL OUT OF CAMERAS ON COMMERCIAL FISHING BOATS. HE'S PLEDGING TO CUT RED TAPE AFTER THE INDUSTRY RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT COSTS AND PRIVACY. IT HAS ALARMED MARINE EXPERTS WHO SAY THE CAMERAS ARE PROTECTING MAUI DOLPHINS AND FISH RESOURCES. THE AMOUNT OF BY CATCH AND TRAWL NETS IS MUCH HIGHER THAN ANYONE HAD EXPECTED. THERE HAVE BEEN SIX IN JUST A FEW MONTHS, WHEN ACTUALLY MPI THINK THERE ARE, IN THAT SAME AREA, ONLY THREE CAUGHT IN A WHOLE YEAR, SO WE ARE FINALLY GETTING SOME REAL INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH BY CATCH IS OCCURRING, AND IT IS CRITICAL THAT THAT WORK CONTINUES. SHANE JONES SAYS WHILE THE ROLL OUT OF CAMERAS TO DATE WON'T BE REVERSED, A REVIEW WILL TAKE PLACE IN CASE THERE'S A FURTHER EXTENSION OF CAMERAS. U.S. PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SAYS HE'S HOPEFUL A GAZA CEASEFIRE WILL START THE PRESIDENT WAS ASKED ABOUT NEGOTIATIONS WHILE ON A CAMPAIGN STOP AT AN ICE CREAM STORE. WELL, I HOPE BY THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEKEND` I MEAN, THE END OF THE WEEKEND. AT LEAST MY NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER TELLS ME THAT WE'RE CLOSE ` WE'RE CLOSE AND NOT DONE YET. AND MY HOPE IS BY NEXT MONDAY, WE'LL HAVE A CEASEFIRE. THE REPORTED DEAL WOULD SEE A PAUSE IN FIGHTING FOR THE MUSLIM HOLY MONTH OF RAMADAN AND WOULD INVOLVE SWAPS OF ISRAELI HOSTAGES FOR PALESTINIAN PRISONERS. 500 AID TRUCKS A DAY WOULD ALSO BE ALLOWED INTO GAZA. TO SPORT, AND RED BULL HAVE DEVELOPED NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS A DRONE TO DELIVER AN UNINTERRUPTED LAP OF A FORMULA 1 CAR. THE WORLD'S FASTEST FILMING DRONE CAN ACCELERATE TWO TIMES FASTER THAN AN F1 CAR, REACHING 300km/h IN JUST FOUR SECONDS. ITS MAX SPEED IS 350km/h, COMPARED TO YOUR AVERAGE DRONE, WHICH CAN REACH AROUND 70. AND FINALLY, A GROUP OF TRAINEE DOCTORS AND NURSES HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE GIFT OF A LIFETIME AFTER A $1 BILLION DONATION TO THEIR UNIVERSITY. THAT MEANS NO STUDENT DEBT AS THEY ENTER THE WORKFORCE. HERE'S THE ABC'S DAVID MUIR. IN NEW YORK CITY, IN THE BRONX, AT THE ALBERT EINSTEIN COLLEGE OF MEDICINE, YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE THE MOMENT LIVES WERE ABOUT TO CHANGE. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT STARTING IN AUGUST THIS YEAR, THE ALBERT EINSTEIN COLLEGE OF MEDICINE WILL BE TUITION-FREE. (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) RUTH GOTTESMAN AND HER $1 BILLION GIFT. THE STUDENTS AND FACULTY JUMPING OUT OF THEIR SEATS; THE SHOCKED LOOK ON THEIR FACES; THE TEARS IN THEIR EYES; THEIR HANDS IN THE AIR; CHEERING. THAT DONOR, DR RUTH GOTTESMAN, A FORMER PROFESSOR AT THE MEDICAL SCHOOL AND CURRENT CHAIR OF THE BOARD, MAKING THE INCREDIBLE $1 BILLION DONATION TO PROVIDE FREE TUITION FOR ALL OF THE STUDENTS INDEFINITELY. THE GIFT IS BELIEVED TO BE THE LARGEST MADE TO ANY MEDICAL SCHOOL EVER IN THIS COUNTRY. THE MONEY CAME FROM HER LATE HUSBAND'S INVESTMENTS, AND HE TOLD HIS WIFE, 'DO WITH IT WHAT YOU SEE FIT.' THE FUTURE'S BRIGHT. ANYBODY BEING ABLE TO PURSUE THE FIELD AND PURSUE THEIR DREAMS WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT THE DEBT THAT COMES WITH IT. (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) THE REMARKABLE, LIFE-CHANGING GIFT. AND AN UPSURGE IN MEDICAL SCHOOL APPLICATIONS. CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF STUDENT DEBT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE? IT WOULD BE LIFE CHANGING FOR THEM. WE SAW THE MOMENT. IT WAS JUST INCREDIBLE. I WOULD BE PINCHING MYSELF. TOO GOOD. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` THE HEAVY RAIN HAS CLEARED HERE. A MAINLY FINE DAY WITH THE HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. SUNSHINE IN THE AFTERNOON FOR KAITAIA, REACHING A HIGH OF 24. FURTHER SOUTH ` SIMILAR HERE. YOU CAN EXPECT A FINE DAY WITH SOME HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. BLUE SKIES FOR SOME OF YOU. 26 THE HIGH FOR WHAKATANE. NICE IN HAMILTON THIS AFTERNOON. TO THE EAST COAST ` IT'S A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY HERE, WITH SHOWERS DEVELOPING FOR YOUR AFTERNOON, TURNING HEAVY FOR SOME. MASTERTON, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 22. OVER TO THE WEST ` HIGH CLOUD CLEARING AND BECOMING FINE FOR SOME OF YOU, WITH THE ODD SHOWER FROM PALMERSTON NORTH THROUGH TO WELLINGTON. ARRIVING IN WELLY, IT'S WINDY, OF COURSE, WITH A HIGH OF 18. NEW PLYMOUTH, YOU ARE LOOKING NICE THIS AFTERNOON. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU ` THE SOUTH ISLAND HIGH CLOUD WITH DRIZZLE FOR NELSON THROUGH TO KAIKOURA TODAY, BUT BLUE SKIES FOR YOU ON THE WEST COAST, REACHING A HIGH OF 21 FOR ALL OF YOU. HEADING SOUTH ` IT'S A CLOUDY DAY DOWN HERE. SOME MORNING DRIZZLE GRADUALLY CLEARING TO HIGH CLOUD FOR YOUR AFTERNOON. 17 THE HIGH IN OAMARU TODAY. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` CLOUD WITH SOME SHOWERS THIS MORNING, CLEARING TO A FINE AFTERNOON OF HIGH CLOUD, WITH THE SUN COMING THROUGH FOR SOME OF YOU. STEWART ISLAND, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 15 TODAY. QUEENSTOWN GETTING TO A HIGH OF 21. ME U TONU MAI ` LABOUR'S SMOKEFREE LAWS HAVE ALMOST BEEN STUBBED OUT BY THE COALITION. WHY THE MINISTER RESPONSIBLE SAYS (UPBEAT MUSIC) LABOUR'S SO-CALLED 'WORLD FIRST' SMOKE-FREE LAWS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE UNDER URGENCY IN PARLIAMENT. HEALTH ADVOCATES SAY THE MOVE IS A TRAVESTY, WARNING MORE PEOPLE WILL DIE AS A RESULT. BUT ASSOCIATE HEALTH MINISTER CASEY COSTELLO SAYS SHE HAS HER OWN PLAN FOR SMOKE-FREE 2025. 1 NEWS UNDERSTANDS THIS WILL BE REVEALED IN THE NEXT FORTNIGHT. THE MINISTER JOINS ME THIS MORNING. MORENA. GOOD MORNING, DANIEL. TELL ARTHUR ABOUT YOUR PLAN. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO GET SMOKE-FREE 2025? THE FIRST STAGE WILL JUST BE REPEALING THE LEGISLATION THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE, WHICH IS THE REDUCED RETAIL OUTLETS, AS THEY CALL IT, THE SMOKE-FREE GENERATION. THAT IS DECLARE A PATHWAY FOR SOME TARGETED PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS. WE HAVE ACHIEVED GREAT RESULTS DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, AND WE JUST DID NOT SUPPORT AN UNPROVEN TRIAL, WHICH WE ARE NOT ALONE IN SUGGESTING THIS WAS NOT THE RIGHT PATHWAY, AND WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT TIGHTER VAPING CONTROLS, AND REALLY TARGETED SOLUTIONS, BECAUSE WE ARE NOW DEALING WITH ADDICTED NICOTINE SMOKERS. LESS THAN 300,000 SMOKERS WHO HAD BEEN SMOKING FOR A LONG TIME, AND AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK IT, REDUCING SUPPLY DOES NOT REDUCE DEMAND. SO WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE VERY BEST TOOLS WE CAN TO HELP THEM QUIT. RADIO NEW ZEALAND, THEY OBTAINED DOCUMENTS OF BRIEFINGS TO YOU, WHICH INCLUDED SUGGESTIONS SUCH AS INCREASING THE PURCHASE AGE TO 25, LOWERING THE NICOTINE AND A BAN OF SALES AROUND SCHOOLS. THESE SUGGESTIONS YOU REJECTED. WHY? ACTUALLY, THERE HAVE BEEN A RANGE OF ADVICE THAT I HAVE RECEIVED. YOU WILL NOT BE SURPRISED TO KNOW THAT MINISTERS DO NOT ALWAYS ACCEPT ALL OF THE ADVICE THAT IS PRESENTED. OUR JOB IN GOVERNMENT IS TO WORK THROUGH A LOT OF ADVICE AND COME UP WITH REALLY WORKABLE, PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY ARE ALL BAD IDEAS AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE REJECTING THEM? I AM SAYING THEY WERE NOT THE IDEAS THAT WE HAVE SELECTED. BUT ARE THEY BAD IDEAS, THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING YOU. THEY ARE UNPROVEN IDEAS. THEY ARE NOT UNPROVEN. WE HAD JANET HOOK ON LAST NIGHT, AND SHE WAS ON THE SHOW YESTERDAY, AND SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD OFFERED YOUR GOVERNMENT ADVICE AND THEY HAVE GIVEN YOU THE SUGGESTIONS. WHY ASK FOR ADVICE IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO USE IT? WE ARE WORKING THROUGH A RANGE OF SOLUTIONS. I HAVE A CABINET PAPER GOING THROUGH NEXT WEEK, WHICH WILL OUTLINE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. WE HAVE ACHIEVED OUTSTANDING RESULTS. IT IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD, AND WE ARE GOING TO BUILD ON THOSE THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE WORKING AND WE KNOW HAVE PROVED TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THOSE. WE ARE NOW DEALING OUT A FIGURE OF 6.8% DAILY SMOKERS. WE BELIEVE THAT THAT TARGET IS HIGHLY ACHIEVABLE. WE'RE JUST WORKING THROUGH A RANGE OF SOLUTIONS THAT ARE PRACTICAL, AFFORDABLE, EFFECTIVE AND PROVEN. GIVE US AN INSIGHT ON WHAT IS IN THAT CABINET PAPER. SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT IS TIGHTENING UP THE VAPING REGULATIONS. ALREADY, WE TRIED TO BAN DISPOSABLES. THERE WAS ALREADY A WORKAROUND BEFORE THAT WAS INTRODUCED IN DECEMBER. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO WORK AROUND AS TIGHTENING UP ON THAT. WE WANT TO GIVE THE VERY BEST TOOLS TO SMOKERS THAT THEY CAN QUIT, AND WE HAD SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS. WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL VAPOUR TO QUIT PROGRAM, AND IT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS WE HAVE HAD TO GET SMOKERS TO QUIT. THE FUNDING FOR THAT HAS STOPPED. WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THOSE CAMPAIGNS THAT WE KNOW WORK TO HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. YOU TALK ABOUT THIS RESEARCH. WHAT EVIDENCE CAN YOU TELL US THAT YOU USED TO REPEAL AND SUPPORT THIS REPEAL? THE EVIDENCE IS THAT WE HAVE GOT THE STATISTICS OF WHAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED SO FAR. WE ARE DOWN TO 299,000 SMOKERS. WE HAVE REDUCED OUR DAILY SMOKING RATES SIGNIFICANTLY. SINCE 2011, WHEN ASHER STARTED THIS SURVEY, WE ARE DOWN TO 19,000 YOUNG SMOKERS. THERE IS THE EVIDENCE. THAT IS ALL DUE TO THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT, NOT YOURS. YES, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE WANT TO BUILD ON THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN SUCCESSFUL. BUT YOU ARE REPEALING WHAT THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT WAS DOING THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL. WE ARE NOT REPEALING ANYTHING THAT IS IN PLACE. NOTHING THAT WE ARE REPEALING IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE. BUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING JUST FLIES IN THE FACE TO ROBUST RESEARCH. NO, THE RESEARCH THAT I THINK EVERYBODY KEPT REFERENCING WAS NOT BASED UPON THE CURRENT SMOKING LEVEL STATISTICS. WE HAVE SHIFTED FROM THAT. THOSE STATISTICS WERE OLD, AND WE ARE NOW LOOKING AT CURRENT DATA, CURRENT FIGURES, AND WE ARE LOOKING A REALLY GOOD SOLUTIONS. I THINK THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT HAD A SUCCESS STORY TO APPLAUD THEMSELVES FOR. THEY HAD A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE HAVE DONE WELL, AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING MORE. WE DO NOT NEED TO DO A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES AND REVELATORY IMPACTS. WE JUST WANT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE REALLY GOOD THINGS IN PLACE THAT WE KNOW WILL WORK AND WE WILL BUILD ON. IT LEADS TO ME ASKING YOU WHY NOT JUST CONTINUE WHAT THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT HAD GOING, WHICH WAS GOING REALLY WELL IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS DROPPING. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAD IN PLACE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ON IT. WE ARE NOT IMPLEMENTING THE STUFF THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN IMPLEMENTED, ISN'T PROVEN, ISN'T TRIED. I THINK THAT IS WITH A NARRATIVE HAS GOT AWAY ON US. IT IS NOT IN PLACE. THE THINGS WE ARE REPEALING HAVE NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED. THEY WERE NOT TO BE IMPLEMENT IT UNTIL LATER THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR AND THE HEREAFTER. WE REPEALING STUFF THAT IS NOT IN PLACE, AND WILL BUILD ON THE STUFF THAT IS WORKING. WE SPOKE TO JANET HOOK IS TODAY, AND SHE TOLD US THAT THE RESEARCH SHOWED THAT THERE WILL BE LESS RAM RAIDS WITH RETAINING LABOURS SMOKE-FREE LAWS, WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU SAY WILL INCREASE. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO HER? I AM NOT SURE WHERE SHE IS GETTING THAT DATA. WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THE REDUCED RETAILERS HAVING TO HOLD A HUGE AMOUNT OF STOCK TO MEET SMOKING DEMAND. AND THOSE FEW STORES, WHICH WERE TALKING ABOUT 600 THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY DOWN FROM 6000, WOULD HAVE TO BE HOLDING LARGE AMOUNTS OF STOCK. THAT WAS MY CONCERN. VAPING ` WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO ABOUT UNDERAGED VAPOUR SALES? HOPEFULLY IF THE CABINET GOES THROUGH, WE WILL TIGHTEN UP A LOT OF LAWS. UNTIL THEY GO THROUGH CABINET, I CANNOT REALLY COMMENT ON THAT. I CAN ASSURE NEW ZEALANDERS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF STEPS IN PLACE. WE DO NOT WANT YOUNG PEOPLE VAPING. IT GOT AWAY ON US BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE MARKET BEFORE WE GOT REGULATION IN PLACE, AND WE WERE SLOW TO REACT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO TIGHTEN THOSE REGULATIONS. ONE OF THE FIRST STEP THAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE A COMPLETE BAN ON DISPOSABLE VAPES, AND THAT WILL BE THE FIRST THING THAT I AM REALLY PUSHING TO GET INTO PLACE. IN TERMS OF UNDERAGED VAPE SALES, WILL YOU BE LOOKING AT REMOVING ADVERTISING? IT IS SOMETHING I AM REALLY KEEN TO DO. THERE IS A WHOLE RANGE OF THINGS ABOUT HOW WE PRESENT THE STORES, HOW ATTRACTIVE IT IS, AND WE HAVE DONE IT WITH TOBACCO IN TERMS OF CONCEALING PACKAGING AND NOT HAVING THEM ON DISPLAY. I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT MOVE. I AM LOOKING AT YOUR PRESS STATEMENT. WE SEND US A TABLE THAT SHOWS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO "IN SMOKING OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. YOU KNOW THAT IT IS TRACKING WELL. IT IS ABOUT 5% OF THE POPULATION WHO SMOKE BY 2025. BUT THE GOAL OF 0%. WHAT RADICAL CHANGES WILL YOU NEED TO MAKE? SMOKE-FREE WAS ALWAYS BELOW 5%. THAT WAS ALWAYS THE TARGET. THE SMOKE-FREE TARGET WAS NEVER ZERO. I THINK WE CAN ACHIEVE WELL BELOW FIVE. BUT WHAT I WAS CONCERNED WITH IS WHAT WE HAD IN PLACE WITH A BLANKET APPROACH, AND WE KNOW THERE ARE COMMUNITIES, MAORI, PASIFIKA, THE LOWER SOCIO-ECONOMIC CLASSES THAT WERE REALLY ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY THE SMOKING ADDICTION, THAT IS WHY I WANT REALLY TARGETED PROGRAMS RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT GENERALLY FLIES AROUND THE WHOLE COUNTRY. SHOULD HAVE THE GOAL BE 0%? WE JUST DO NOT WANT ANYONE SMOKING. WE REALLY WANT. BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE DEALING WITH AN ADDICTION THAT HAS BEEN A LEGAL PRODUCT FOR ALL OF OUR LIFETIMES, AND THAT IS A TOUGH THING WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH ADDICTION, AND I HOPE WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT, AND I THINK IT IS REALISTIC, BUT IT IS AN ADDICTION, AND WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT ON THAT BASIS THAT WE SHOULD AIM FOR THAT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE PRACTICAL, REALISTIC GOALS, AND NOT CATCHPHRASES TO ACHIEVE THE SOLUTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. THANK YOU. E HAERE AKE NEI ` THE ONLINE POSTS MISSED DURING THE ROYAL COMMISSION OF INQUIRY INTO THE 2019 CHRISTCHURCH ATTACKS. WE FIND OUT WHY. ONLINE POSTS BY THE CHRISTCHURCH MOSQUE TERRORIST WERE MISSED, NOT ONLY BEFORE THE 2019 ATTACK, BUT ALSO DURING THE ROYAL COMMISSION OF INQUIRY. NOW RESEARCHERS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF AUCKLAND HAVE DISCOVERED BRENTON TARRANT HAD PUBLICLY POSTED ABOUT HIS PLANS UP TO A YEAR BEFORE THE ATTACKS ON MARCH 15. THEY COMBED THROUGH THOUSANDS OF POSTS FROM ONLINE FORUM 4CHAN, IDENTIFYING A PATTERN OF EXTREME AND VIOLENT POSTS. HERE'S LEAD AUTHOR AND SENIOR LECTURER CHRIS WILSON. THE FIRST PLACE I WOULD HAVE LOOKED ` AND WE HAVE NOW ` IS 4CHAN. SO TO ME, IT'S SURPRISING IF WE WANTED TO HAVE A PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID. WILSON EXPLAINS HOW THIS STUDY CAN BE USED TO HELP PREVENT FUTURE TERRORIST ATTACKS. WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE WAY THESE PEOPLE, THESE PERPETRATORS SPEAK, THE THINGS THAT MAKE THEM EMOTIONAL AND THE THINGS THAT RADICALISE THEM AND THE WAY THE COMMUNITY RADICALISES THEM, THE THINGS THAT SET THEM APART FROM OTHERS. TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THESE PEOPLE AND HOPEFULLY PREVENT MORE EVENTS OCCURING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE, THIS SORT OF INFORMATION IS REALLY CRUCIAL. ABDUR RAZZAQ, CHAIR OF THE FEDERATION OF ISLAMIC ASSOCIATIONS JOINS US FROM OUR WELLINGTON STUDIO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THIS RESEARCH MUST HAVE COME AS A BIT OF A SURPRISE TO YOU. MORENA. GOOD MORNING. YES, IT WAS A SURPRISE, BUT WE WEREN'T SURPRISED WITH THE INFORMATION. WE WERE SURPRISED BY THE DEPTH OF ANALYSIS THAT THE UNIVERSITY HAVE DONE. THEY USE THREE METRICS TO EVALUATE THE RESEARCH ` THE FIRST, IS IT GOING TO MAKE US ANY SAFER, SECONDLY, WILL IT GIVE US A SENSE OF PEACE AND UNDERSTANDING FOR THE VICTIMS IN TERMS OF THE HEALING PROCESS, AND THIRDLY FOR THE RESEARCH ITSELF. IT HAS TICKED ALL THREE BOXES. IN TERMS AT WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD LOOK FOR. WE WERE MISSING THAT AT THE TIME. AT THAT TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE, TECHNOLOGY AS WELL AS THE EXPERTS. THERE HAS BEEN PLUGGED AS WELL. THIRDLY, AND REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT, THE RESEARCHERS FOUND OUT THE VARIOUS AGENCIES WEREN'T TALKING TO EACH OTHER ABOUT IT ` THE POLICE AND THE SAS. IN MY EXPERIENCE, THEY HAVE BEEN COOPERATING. THOSE ARE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED. IT IS A HINDSIGHT REPORT. RESEARCH LIKE THIS ALSO HELPS THE COMMUNITY IN THE HEALING PROCESS, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE STILL OUT THERE WONDERING, HEY, HOW CAN ONE PERSON BYPASS THE ENTIRE SECURITY IMPERATIVES OF A NATION AND BECAUSE THIS MUCH DAMAGE. SENDING BACK FROM A RESEARCH PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS THE SECOND MAJOR RESEARCH, AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO CONGRATULATE AUCKLAND UNIVERSITY ON THIS. AND FIVE YEARS, THERE WERE 138 RESEARCH IS OVERSEAS. THIS IS THE SECOND IN FIVE YEARS. PEOPLE WILL BE WATCHING THIS, THOUGH, AND SAY, HANG ON A MOMENT, THESE WERE UNIVERSITY RESEARCHERS. INTELLIGENCE SERVICES HAVE MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED POWER AND KNOWLEDGE. MORE ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAN I HAVE OR YOU HAVE ORAN ACADEMIC RESEARCHER. AND THERE WERE CATASTROPHIC AND TRAGIC RESULTS. THE ROYAL COMMISSION TALKED IN TERMS OF LAPSES. HE WANTED TO KEEP EVERYTHING SECRET. OUR AGENCIES WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND THAT. THE RESEARCHERS ALSO FOUND THAT THE AUSTRALIAN EQUIVALENT OF SAS KNEW SOMETHING AS WELL. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL FIND OUT IN THE NEXT PHASE WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING AT SOCIAL MEDIA. IT IS ALSO VALIDATION OF THE ROYAL COMMISSION WHICH TALKED IN TERMS OF HAVING A NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY WHERE ACADEMIA, CIVIL SOCIETY, MISSIONARY OF GOVERNMENT, THE POLITICIANS, STICK TOGETHER AND PRIORITISE NATIONAL SECURITY. THAT IS WHAT WAS MISSING. WE ARE HOPING THE NEW GOVERNMENT FOCUSES ON THESE TWO KEY AREAS. THE SECOND IS MORE RESOURCES IN THIS TARGETED AREA. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS NEW GOVERNMENT AND ITS STRATEGY. THE PRESS HAS POSTED A STORY THIS MORNING ` THE POST, RATHER ` THAT THE ASSOCIATE JUSTICE MINISTER IS LOOKING AT CHANGING, THEIR PHRASE IS UNWINDING, PARTIALLY, SEMIAUTOMATIC GUNS BEING USED AND COMPETITIVE SHOOTING. WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? IT WAS A POSITION THAT WAS PUT TO PARLIAMENT. THIS COMPETITIVE SHOOTING IS NOT FOR OLYMPICS OR FOR COMMONWEALTH GAMES; IT IS ACTUALLY COMPETITIONS WHICH ARE FUNDED BY ` WAIT FOR IT ` ARMS MANUFACTURERS. GIVEN THE DATA, NEW ZEALAND HAS ONE MORE MEDALS AFTER WE BROUGHT IN THE BAND THAN BEFORE. WE WOULD EXPECT NEW ZEALAND TO DO MUCH WORSE THAN THE UNITED STATES, WHICH HAS MORE OPEN LAWS. NEW ZEALAND HAS VERY ROBUST LAWS IN THAT RESPECT. THE DATA SHOWS THAT NEW ZEALAND HAS DONE MUCH BETTER. SO THE MINISTER IS GOING AGAINST ALL EVIDENCE, AND BEING A PARTY OF POLITICAL CONVENIENCE, WHICH WE CALL THE COALITION GOVERNMENT. THE GOVERNMENT VOTED. ONLY ONE PERSON ` 161 AGAINST ONE ` ALL NEW ZEALAND VOTED AGAINST THE SEMIAUTOMATIC WEAPONS. THE OTHER THING ABOUT SEMIAUTOMATIC WEAPONS, GOING AWAY FROM THE RESEARCH, IS THAT THEY ARE ONLY LIMITED TO GUN CLUBS. THE TERRORIST BELONGED TO A GUN CLUB. HE HAD ACCESS TO A DOZEN OF SEMIAUTOMATIC WEAPONS. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT GUN CLUB MEMBERS WILL NOT BE INVOLVED IN THESE KINDS OF THINGS, SO WE ARE ACTUALLY QUITE WORRIED ABOUT THIS. AND IT ABSOLUTELY COMES IN THE FACE OF ALL EVIDENCE. IT WILL BE A POLITICAL DECISION, RATHER THAN A MATTER OF SECURITY AND SAFETY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. HERE'S WHAT'S COMING UP AFTER SEVEN O'CLOCK - DOZENS OF FRIENDS GATHERED FOR A VIGIL IN SYDNEY LAST NIGHT AFTER POLICE REVEALED THEY HAD FOUND THE BODIES OF MURDERED COUPLE JESSIE BAIRD AND LUKE DAVIES. A PSYCHOLOGIST JOINS US LIVE FOR MORE ON THE CASE SHORTLY. IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS SINCE WE HAD OUR FIRST COVID-19 CASE IN NEW ZEALAND. THAT'S A LONG TIME, I KNOW. YES, I KNOW THAT'S A LONG TIME AGO NOW. THE FAMILIAR FACE OF THE PANDEMIC SIR ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD ` JOINS US A LITTLE LATER. AND IT WAS THE SHOCK RETIREMENT THAT TOOK EVERYONE BY SURPRISE. NEIL WAGNER HAS ANNOUNCED HE'S LEAVING BEHIND HIS ILLUSTRIOUS TEST CAREER. HE'LL TELL US WHY IN HALF AN HOUR'S TIME. IT'S 7 O'CLOCK. HERE'S CHRIS WITH THE NEWS. 'SMOKEFREE NEVER MEANT ZERO', ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATE HEALTH MINISTER. THE ASSOCIATE HEALTH MINISTER CASEY COSTELLO TOLD BREAKFAST SHE HAS HER OWN PLAN TO HIT AOTEAROA'S GOAL OF SMOKEFREE 2025. WHICH IS FOR FEWER THAN 5% OF NEW ZEALANDERS SMOKING. SHE SAYS SHE WANTS TO TIGHTEN UP VAPING REGULATIONS AND PROVIDE THE BEST TOOLS FOR SMOKERS TO QUIT SMOKING. SMOKE-FREE IS ALWAYS BELOW 5%. THAT WAS ALWAYS THE TARGET. THE SMOKE-FREE TARGET WAS NEVER ZERO. I THINK WE CAN ACHIEVE WELL BELOW 5%, BUT WHAT I WAS CONCERNED WITH IS WHAT WE HAD IN PLACE WAS A BLANKET APPROACH. 1NEWS UNDERSTANDS THE ASSOCIATE HEALTH MINISTER'S PLAN TO REACH SMOKEFREE 2025 WILL BE RELEASED IN THE NEXT FORTNIGHT. AN INVERCARGILL SCHOOL PRINCIPAL IS CALLING FOR ANSWERS AND TRANSPARENCY FROM THE GOVERNMENT ON THE FUTURE OF HIS SCHOOL. THE GOVERNMENT'S ANNOUNCED A PAUSE ON 20 SCHOOL BUILDING PROJECTS, WHILE AN INQUIRY INTO COST BLOW OUTS IS COMPLETED. MIKE NEWELL TOLD BREAKFAST A CEILING COLLAPSED ON A STUDENT 18 MONTHS AGO BECAUSE OF LEAKS. THE STUDENT WAS UNHARMED. YOU'VE GOT ROTTEN BITS EVERYWHERE AND AT THE MOMENT WE'RE RUNNING ROUND WITH BUCKETS TRYING TO CATCH LEAKS AND PUT NEW ROOFS ON OLD BUILDING AND, YEAH- SO, SO THERE'S A LOT THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU TRY TO DO TO A BUILDING TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, WORTHY. MIKE NEWELL SAYS � OF HIS SCHOOL'S BUILDINGS ARE MARKED FOR SIGNIFICANT REFURBISHMENT OR RE-BUILD. POLISH FARMERS HAVE ADDED THEIR NOISY SUPPORT TO ONGOING PROTESTS ACROSS EUROPE. THEY GATHERED IN WARSAW AND THEN MARCHED AROUND 3km THROUGH THE CITY TO THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE. THEY'RE ANGRY ABOUT NEW ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND IMPORT DEALS WHICH THEY SAY MAKE THEIR LIVELIHOODS UNSUSTAINABLE. AND SPANISH FARMERS HAVE TAKEN A MORE DIRECT APPROACH, BLOCKING HIGHWAYS BEFORE BREAKING INTO TRUCKS AND THROWING THE IMPORTED PRODUCE ON THE GROUND. SPAIN'S AGRICULTURE MINISTER SAYS HE'LL MEET WITH FOOD-PRODUCING UNIONS THIS WEEK. TO SPORT, AND IT'S WIN OR GO HOME FOR THE BREAKERS TONIGHT AS THEY PREPARE FOR THEIR AUSTRALIAN NBL POST SEASON ELIMINATOR AGAINST THE SYDNEY KINGS. IT'S A REMATCH OF LAST YEAR'S FINAL BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE BREAKERS ARE USING IT AS MOTIVATION TO WIN. WHOEVER WE WOULD FACE NOW, I WOULD WANT TO BEAT THE LIVING YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF THEM. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S IN NBL. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THE FACT THAT WE LOST GAME FIVE OF THE FINALS GIVES US EXTRA MOTIVATION. THE ONLY THING THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE PASS AS LESSONS LEARNT. TIP OFF IS AT 9:30 TONIGHT. AND FINALLY, TAYLOR SWIFT MAY HAVE DEPARTED AUSTRALIA, BUT SHE'S LEFT A LASTING IMPRESSION, EVEN ON THE FLOOR OF PARLIAMENT. FORMER AUSSIE PM SCOTT MORRISON WAS CHALLENGED BY HIS DAUGHTERS TO PLAY TAYLOR SWIFT BINGO IN HIS FAREWELL SPEECH. SEE IF YOU CAN SPOT ALL 12 REFERENCES HE MANAGED TO GET IN. WELL, WHAT'S A DAD TO DO? HERE I GO. (LAUGHS) IT IS TRUE THAT MY POLITICAL OPPONENTS HAVE OFTEN MADE ME SEE RED, OFTEN WHEN SUBJECTED TO THE TORTURED POETS WHO WOULD RISE TO ATTACK MY REPUTATION. IN RESPONSE, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT IMPORTANT TO BE FEARLESS AND SPEAK NOW, OR FOREVER HOLD MY SILENCE AND ALLOW THOSE ATTACKS TO BECOME FOLKLORE. EVER SINCE LEAVING UNIVERSITY IN 1989, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY APPROACH. MY GREAT CONSOLATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY LOVER, JEN, WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR ME WHENEVER I NEED HER FROM DAWN AND BEYOND THE MANY MIDNIGHTS WE HAVE SHARED TOGETHER. SEE, I'M ACTUALLY A TRUE NEW ROMANTIC, AFTER ALL. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THERE IS NO BAD BLOOD, AS I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN ABLE TO SHAKE IT OFF. AUSTRALIA AND HEAVEN ARE NEVER, EVER GETTING BACK TOGETHER. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. AUSTRALIA AND HIM* TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` THE HEAVY RAIN HAS CLEARED HERE. A MAINLY FINE DAY WITH THE HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. SUNSHINE IN THE AFTERNOON FOR KAITAIA, REACHING A HIGH OF 24. FURTHER SOUTH ` SIMILAR HERE. YOU CAN EXPECT A FINE DAY WITH SOME HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. BLUE SKIES FOR SOME OF YOU. 26 THE HIGH FOR WHAKATANE. 27 FOR TAURANGA. TO THE EAST COAST ` IT'S A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY HERE, WITH SHOWERS DEVELOPING FOR YOUR AFTERNOON, TURNING HEAVY FOR SOME. MASTERTON, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 22. OVER TO THE WEST ` HIGH CLOUD CLEARING AND BECOMING FINE FOR SOME OF YOU, WITH THE ODD SHOWER FROM PALMERSTON NORTH THROUGH TO WELLINGTON. ARRIVING IN WELLY, IT'S WINDY, OF COURSE, WITH A HIGH OF 18. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU ` THE SOUTH ISLAND HIGH CLOUD WITH DRIZZLE FOR NELSON THROUGH TO KAIKOURA TODAY, BUT BLUE SKIES FOR YOU ON THE WEST COAST, REACHING A HIGH OF 21 FOR ALL OF YOU. HEADING SOUTH ` IT'S A CLOUDY DAY DOWN HERE. SOME MORNING DRIZZLE GRADUALLY CLEARING TO HIGH CLOUD FOR YOUR AFTERNOON. 24 CHRISTCHURCH AND 18 FOR ASHBURTON. 20* TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` CLOUD WITH SOME SHOWERS THIS MORNING, CLEARING TO A FINE AFTERNOON OF HIGH CLOUD, WITH THE SUN COMING THROUGH FOR SOME OF YOU. QUEENSTOWN, NICE AFTERNOON IN STORE. IT'S A CASE THAT'S GRIPPED AUSTRALIA AND GAINED WORLD ATTENTION. OVERNIGHT, TWO BODIES HAVE BEEN FOUND IN THE SEARCH FOR SYDNEY COUPLE, JESSE BAIRD AND LUKE DAVIES. THE REMAINS WERE FOUND TWO HOURS SOUTH OF SYDNEY ON TUESDAY. POLICE OFFICER BEAU LAMARRE-CONDON IS FACING TWO COUNTS OF MURDER. AUTHORITIES SAY THE DISCOVERY OF BODIES 'DID COME WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE ACCUSED'. FOR MORE ON WHAT HAPPENS NOW, WE'RE JOINED BY AUSTRALIAN CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGIST TIM WATSON-MUNRO. HE HAS WORKED ON HUNDREDS OF MURDER TRIALS IN HIS 45-YEAR CAREER. GOOD MORNING. MORNING, DANIEL. THE PROPERTY HERE IS ABOUT TWO HOURS AWAY FROM SYDNEY. WHAT WILL POLICE BE TASKED WITH NOW? THEY WILL BE GATHERING MORE EVIDENCE. THEY WILL THEN PUT A BRIEF OF EVIDENCE TOGETHER. THE ACCUSED IS RETIRED LEGAL COUNSEL. IT THEN DEPENDS ON HOW HE IS GOING TO PLEAD TO THIS. WE CAN'T SAY TOO MUCH ABOUT HIM. IN GENERAL TERMS, THE BRIEF OF EVIDENCE WILL BE SERVED, THERE WILL BE A COMMITTAL HEARING AND POSSIBLY A TRAIL, DEPENDENT ON WHAT SORT OF DEFENCE MAY BE PUT FORWARD. SO IN THE MURDER CASES I'VE DONE, THERE MAY BE A NUMBER OF DEFENCE OPTIONS INCLUDING, I WASN'T THERE, IT WASN'T ME, THEY MAY HAVE A MENTAL STATE DEFENCE, THEY MAY HAVE A DISEASE OF THE MIND ` SCHIZOPHRENIA. NO INTENT, NO UNDERSTANDING OF RIGHT OR WRONG. BASICALLY THEY ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY ARGUE THEY HAVE NE BEEN PROVOKED. THIS ALL ABOUT THE PROPERTY OF INTEREST AT THE MOMENT THAT HAS BECOME A CRIME SCENE. HOW LONG WILL POLICE HAD TO INVESTIGATE THIS? I THINK THEY WILL TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS THEY NEED. CERTAINLY, I READ YESTERDAY THAT ONCE THE FAMILYIES ADVISED THAT THE BODY HAD BEEN DISCOVERED, THEY HIGHTAILED IT TO THEREFORE STOP IT IS QUITE A DRIVE. WHAT IS THE AREA LIKE? IT IS RURAL NEW SOUTH WALES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT INITIALLY THEY WERE FOCUSING ON A DAM, AND THERE WAS NO LUCK WITH THAT. HE THEN RETAINS A DIFFERENT BARRISTER. AND IT WAS IN THAT CONTEXT THAT HE EVIDENTLY ADVISE WHETHER BODIES COULD BE FOUND. AND IT WAS ABOUT 20 MINUTES DRIVE FROM THE INITIAL SEARCH SITE. HOW MUCH OF THE TEAM WILL BE INVOLVED IN THIS INVESTIGATION? IT HAS BEEN TASKED. AND HAS BEEN A VERY HIGH-PROFILE CASE IN AUSTRALIA AND INDIA GLOBALLY. THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS CASE. AND INDEED GLOBALLY* THEY ARE LOOKING AT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TRAVELLED AND SO ON. SO IT HAS ATTRACTED AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ATTENTION FROM POLICE NOW. POLICE SAID THE DISCOVERY OF THE BODIES DID COME WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE ACCUSED. WHAT CONVERSATIONS WITH THERE HAVE BEEN OVER THESE LAST FEW DAYS WITH THE ACCUSED? TAKE US INSIDE THERE. WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE DYNAMICS OF THAT CONVERSATION. AT IN GENERAL TERMS, THERE WOULD BE FAIRLY INTENSE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE ACCUSED OF MURDER AND THE POLICE. BEYOND THAT, IT IS HARD TO KNOW. POLICE HAVE GATHERED THE EVIDENCE, THEY WILL GO TO A TRIAL, THEIR AIM WILL BE INTENT TO KILL. TALK TO ME ABOUT THE DEFENCE. THERE MAY BE A MENTAL HEALTH CONCERN. WHAT HAPPENS HERE? DOES HE UNDERGO PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT? THAT WOULD BE PRETTY RIGOUROUS WORK. ONE OF THE CASES I WAS INVOLVED IN WAS THE HALL STREET MASSACRE IN THE 80S. I SPENT ABOUT ONE YEAR WORKING WITH HIM AS PART OF A TEAM THAT WAS A FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIST, ANOTHER PSYCHOLOGIST AND PEOPLE THERE WERE LOOKING AT WHETHER ` BECAUSE WHAT HE HAD DONE WAS CONSIDERED TO BE CRAZY ` WAS HE CONSIDERED TO LEGALLY BE CRAZY? IT WAS DETERMINED BY THE PARTIES THAT THERE WAS NO MENTAL STATE DEFENCE. HE WAS NOT CRAZY; HE WAS JUST BAD. WITHOUT GOING INTO THE SPECIFICS, I IMAGINE A SIMILAR PROCESS WILL HAPPEN. HE WILL BE PSYCHOLOGICALLY EVALUATED, AND THEY WILL LOOK AT WHETHER THERE IS A DEFENCE IN TERMS OF NOT UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT OR WRONG, NOT HAVING AN INTENTION TO KILL. I DO WANT TO COMMENT UPON THAT. THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE EXPLORING AT THE MOMENT. 45 YEARS YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A NUMBER OF CASES. IT IS LONG. IT IS A VERY LONG TIME WHERE WOULD YOU PLACE THIS CASE? ON ONE LEVEL, IT'S ATTRACTED GLOBAL ATTENTION, SO IT IS A BIG CASE. BUT YOU TALK ABOUT LOVE TRIANGLES AND ALL THE REST OF IT. I THINK IT IS A SIMPLE CASE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. ONE WOMAN PER WEEK IS MURDERED IN AUSTRALIA. IT IS A STAGGERING STATISTIC. I THINK WHAT HAS CAPTURED INTEREST AS THAT THIS IS A GAY MURDER INVOLVING THREE GAY MEN. BUT THE DYNAMICS AROUND IT, AS BEST I CAN TELL, IS NOT THAT DIFFERENT TO ANY SORT OF DOMESTIC MURDER THAT HAS ESCALATED TO DOMESTIC MURDER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR INSIGHT. IT IS A PLEASURE. THANK YOU, DANIEL. E HAERE AKE NEI ` THE GOVERNMENT HAS A NEW SMOKEFREE PLAN COMING. SO WHAT DOES LABOUR'S CHRIS HIPKINS THINK? NEW PLANS TO REACH OUR SMOKEFREE 2025 GOAL ARE GOING TO BE ANNOUNCED SOON ACCORDING TO ASSOCIATE HEALTH MINISTER CASEY COSTELLO, BUT THAT'S NOT WITHOUT PUTTING POURING COLD WATER ON LABOUR'S LAWS FIRST. LEADER CHRIS HIPKINS JOINS ME THIS MORNING. GOOD MORNING. SHE SAID SMOKE-FREE WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE ZERO IT'S ACTUALLY UNDER 5%. WAS IT MISLEADING TO CALL IT SMOKE-FREE? LET'S BE REAL ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. IT'S A $5 BILLION COST TO OUR HEALTH SYSTEM. 12 PEOPLE A DAY IN NEW ZEALAND DIE ON AVERAGE FROM SMOKE -RELATED ILLNESSES. THERE WILL BE SOME LEGACY SMOKERS, SOME PEOPLE WHO WILL NEVER GIVE UP SMOKING AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DEALING WITH THOSE PEOPLE COMPASSIONATELY. BUT THE SMOKE-FREE GOALS THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT HAVE APPEALED AS WE WERE GONNA SAY NO NEW PEOPLE COULD TAKE UP SMOKING. THE CHANGES THEY ARE MAKING MEAN YOUNG NEW ZEALANDERS CAN LEGALLY TAKE UP SMOKING AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO STOP. ZERO WOULD MEAN EVERYONE WHO CURRENTLY SMOKES WOULD GIVE UP AND I ACKNOWLEDGE IT IS A HIGHLY HIGHLY ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCE AND THAT IS NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE POSSIBLE. SHE SAYS IT WAS NEVER GOING TO BE REALISTIC ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S A HIGHLY ADDICTIVE HABIT THAT IS STILL LEGAL. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND CASEY IS I DON'T BELIEVE YOUNG NEW ZEALANDERS SHOULD BE TAKING UP SMOKING. SHE WANTS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE UP SMOKING. I THINK SHE IS WRONG. SHE GAVE YOU PRAISE AND SAID THE GOVERNMENT DID A GREAT JOB BUT SHE IS NOT PREPARED TO TRY UNPROVEN TACTICS LIKE REDUCING NICOTINE OR RAISING AGE LIMITS. THEY ARE PROVEN TACTICS. THERE IS A VERY FRONTSIDE EVIDENCE BASE FOR WHAT WE WERE DOING. RAISING THE AGE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. RAISING THE PURCHASE AGE OF CIGARETTES THE 25 WOULD STOP YOUNG NEW ZEALANDERS GETTING HOOKED ON SMOKING. VERY FEW PEOPLE TAKE UP CIGARETTE SMOKING AFTER THE AGE OF 25 SO RAISING THE AGE 25 WOULD ACHIEVE SOME OF THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT'S OBJECTIVES. THEY COULD GENERATE THE REVENUE TO PAY FOR TAX CUTS. THEY CAN AT THE VERY LEAST RAISE THE AGE TO 25 SO THE FUTURE GENERATION OF YOUNG NEW ZEALANDERS DON'T GET HOOKED. YOU ARE DIRECTLY STATING THE GOVERNMENTS DECISIONS ARE DRIVEN BY TAX CUTS. IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE ANY OTHER RATIONALE. OTHER THAN THE FACT THEY WANT TO RAISE MORE MONEY OFF SMOKERS BECAUSE THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEALTH REASONS WHATSOEVER FOR MAKING THE CHANGES THEY ARE MAKING. THE ARGUMENTS AROUND CRIME FOR EXAMPLE, SAYING IF YOU REDUCE THE SUPPLY, THERE WILL BE A GREATER BLACK-MARKET, IS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE TOBACCO LOBBY'S PLAYBOOK. IT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. SMOKING STRATEGY IS NOT THE ONLY HANDBRAKE TO YOUR WORK, 350 SCHOOL BUILDINGS ARE NOW UNDER REVIEW. THE BLAME HAS BEEN SQUARED AT YOU AS EDUCATION MINISTER. WHAT HAS GONE WRONG. NOTHING HAS GONE WRONG THIS IS DESPERATE SPin BY THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT. WE INHERITED A SCHOOL PROPERTY PORTFOLIO THAT HAD BEEN AND INVESTED IN FOUR DECADES. SCHOOLS AND PARENTS UP AND DOWN THE COUNTRY WILL SEE THE BENEFITS OF THE NEW CLASSROOMS THAT HAVE BEEN BELTS. OF THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN REBUILT AND UPGRADED. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT SEEM TO BE SURPRISED BY THIS ARE THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT. EVERYBODY ELSE KNEW, ANYONE WHO'S TRIED TO BUILD A HOUSE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS KNOWS THAT THE COST HAS GONE UP. I THINK THEY ARE WRONG. SOME OF THE COST BLOWOUTS ARE REMARKABLE. THERE ARE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PROJECTS. THAT'S WAY MORE THAN THE RATE OF INFLATION. I JUST TRY TO RENOVATE MY BATHROOM AND IT SUDDENLY JUMPED UP 7%. IN MANY CASES IT IS BECAUSE THE CONDITION OF THE SCHOOLS WHEN THEY START DOING THE WORK THEY FIND IS EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT THE CONDITION ASSESSMENTS HAD EXPECTED. THEY FIND THEY CANNOT PARTIALLY DEMOLISH IT THEY HAVE TO DEMOLISH IT ALL AND START AGAIN. IF I TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF ONE I'M FAMILIAR WITH, THE PREVIOUS NATIONAL GOVERNMENT JUST BEFORE THE 2017 ELECTION ANNOUNCED THEY WOULD GIVE THEM $12 MILLION FOR A REBUILD. WE DOUBLE THAT MONEY AND WHEN THAT PROJECT IS FINISHED THEY WILL BE CLOSER TO $100 MILLION. HIGH SCHOOL WAS BUILT ON A SWAMP AND WAS LITERALLY SINKING. WE WANT OUR SCHOOLS TO BE FIT FOR LEARNING FOR PLACES FOR TEACHERS TO WORK, AND STUDENTS TO BE LEARNING. WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON THEM AND THERE IS NOT AN ALTERNATIVE. WHAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS WITH SCHOOL PROPERTY HAS BEEN UNACCEPTABLE AND WE RECOGNISE THAT AS A GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE FUNDING FOR SCHOOL MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES. THIS GOVERNMENT ARE TRYING TO BACK AWAY FROM THAT. WE KNOW ABOUT LEEDS AND WE SEE WHERE THAT LEADS BECAUSE THAT EXPLAINS THE CONDITION SCHOOLS ARE IN NOW. NEWS OUT THIS MORNING THAT THE ASSOCIATE JUSTICE MINISTER IS REPORTEDLY CONSIDERING A PARTIAL UNWINDING OF THE SEMIAUTOMATIC SPAN. THAT WILL RESULT IN GANGS GETTING SEMIAUTOMATIC WEAPONS. I AM VERY PROUD OF THE BAN ON MILITARY STYLE SEMIAUTOMATIC'S. IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY THE PARLIAMENT. I AM DISAPPOINTED NATIONAL IS BACKING AWAY FROM THAT. THE POLICE WILL RECOMMEND STRONGLY AGAINST THAT CHANGE IT WILL RESULT IN MORE ILLEGAL USE OF THOSE WEAPONS. IF YOU WANT A FOREIGN MILITARY STYLE SEMIAUTOMATIC WEAPON, JOIN THE MILITARY. THESE WEAPONS THAT ARE STILL ABLE TO BE USED IN PEST CONTROL. THERE IS A VERY VERY RESTRICTIVE REGIME AROUND THE USE OF THESE TYPES OF WEAPONS FOR PEST CONTROL. YOU CAN'T GO DOWN THE ROAD BY ONE IN SHEETS AND POSSUMS. IT IS MUCH MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. THANK YOU. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA ` YOUR 7.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. PLUS WE HEAR FROM BLACK CAPS BOWLER WHO HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT FROM INTERNATIONAL CRICKET. THE RESERVE BANK'S SET FOR ITS FIRST OFFICIAL CASH RATE UPDATE OF THE YEAR LATER TODAY. MOST ECONOMISTS ARE EXPECTING THE OCR TO REMAIN AT 5.5%, BUT WITH HIGH INFLATION STILL LURKING, SOME ARE WARY OF A HIKE. AN ANNOUNCEMENT IS EXPECTED AT 2pm THIS AFTERNOON. THE FUTURE ROLLOUT OF SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS ON COMMERCIAL FISHING BOATS IS IN QUESTION, DESPITE EVIDENCE THEY'RE WORKING TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT BYCATCH. IT COMES AS FISHERIES MINISTER SHANE JONES REVIEWS THE EXTENSION OF CAMERAS ON FISHING BOATS. HE'S PLEDGING TO CUT RED TAPE AFTER THE INDUSTRY RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT COSTS AND PRIVACY. IT'S ALARMED MARINE EXPERTS, WHO SAY THE CAMERAS ARE OFFERING CRITICAL INFORMATION. IT WOULD BE REALLY A SHAME IF IT WAS RETURNED OR REVERSED, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME BIG SURPRISES ALREADY. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE AMOUNT OF BY CATCH IN TRAWL NETS IS MUCH HIGHER THAN HAD BEEN EXPECTED. THERE HAVE BEEN SIX IN JUST A FEW MONTHS, WHEN MPI THINK THAT IN THAT SAME AREA ONLY THREE CAUGHT IN A WHOLE YEAR. SHANE JONES SAYS, WHILE THE ROLLOUT OF CAMERAS TO DATE WON'T BE REVERSED, A REVIEW WILL TAKE PLACE IN CASE THERE'S A FURTHER EXTENSION OF CAMERAS. THE ASSOCIATE HEALTH MINISTER WANTS TO BUILD OFF THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT'S SMOKEFREE LAWS DESPITE SCRAPPING PLANS TO LIMIT TOBACCO SELLERS. CASEY COSTELLO TOLD BREAKFAST SHE WILL OUTLINE HER OWN PLAN NEXT WEEK ON HOW TO HIT AOTEAROA'S GOAL OF SMOKEFREE 2025. COSTELLO WANTS TO TIGHTEN UP VAPING REGULATIONS AND PROVIDE THE BEST TOOLS TO SMOKERS TO QUIT SMOKING. THINGS WE ARE REPEALING HAVE NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED. THEY WON'T BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL LATER NEXT YEAR. WHAT WE ARE REPEALING IS STUFF THAT IS NOT IN PLACE AND WE WILL BUILD ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND IS WORKING. CASEY COSTELLO SAYS SMOKEFREE NEVER MEANT ZERO NEW ZEALANDERS SMOKING. LABOUR LEADER CHRIS HIPKINS BELIEVES THE GOVERNMENT IS PRIORITISING TAX REVENUE OVER THE HEALTH OF NEW ZEALANDER'S. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND CASEY COSTELLO IS I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOUNG NEW ZEALANDERS SHOULD BE TAKING UP SMOKING, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE MAKING IT IS EASIER THEM TO DO SO. SHE DOES SEEM TO THINK THAT MAKING IT EASIER FOR THEM TO TAKE UP SMOKING IS A MORALLY ACCEPTABLE THING FOR GOVERNMENT TO DO. I THINK SHE'S WRONG. THE FEDERATION OF ISLAMIC ASSOCIATIONS SAYS THE REWRITE OF THE FIREARMS ACT IS WORRYING. SEMI-AUTOMATICS COULD MAKE A RETURN TO GUN RANGES AS PART OF THE REWRITE AGREED TO BY NATIONAL AND ACT. ASSOCIATE JUSTICE MINISTER NICOLE MCKEE SAYS EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE, INCLUDING THE RE-INTRODUCTION OF THE MILITARY-STYLE WEAPON USED IN THE MARCH 15 CHRISTCHURCH TERROR ATTACKS. ISRAEL AND HAMAS HAVE BOTH POURED COLD WATER ON HOPES A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA COULD BE IN PLACE BY NEXT WEEK. RUMOURS OF A NEW PAUSE IN FIGHTING HAVE BEEN CIRCULATING FOR DAYS AND U.S PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SAID HE WAS HOPEFUL A DEAL WOULD BE SIGNED BY MONDAY. BUT BOTH SIDES HAVE SINCE RESPONDED THAT SUCH HOPES ARE PREMATURE AND THERE ARE STILL STICKING POINTS IN THE DRAFT AGREEMENT. THE DEAL IS WIDELY EXPECTED TO BE A PAUSE IN VIOLENCE FOR THE ISLAMIC HOLY MONTH OF RAMADAN, WHICH STARTS IN A FORTNIGHT. TO SPORT, AND AHEAD OF THE FIRST TEST AT THE BASIN RESERVE, AUSTRALIAN BATTER USMAN KHAWAJA BELIEVES TEAM MATE STEVE SMITH IS ONE OF THE BEST TEST CRICKETERS THE GAME HAS SEEN. KHAWAJA HAS ARRIVED IN THE COUNTRY FOR THE OPENING TEST AGAINST THE BLACKCAPS IN THE CAPITAL, WASTING LITTLE TIME TO PRAISE SMITH. THE THING IS` OF THIS GENERATION, IS HE'S RIGHT UP THERE AS THE BEST TEST CRICKETER OF THIS GENERATION, SO IF ANYONE'S GONNA SCORE RUNS AT OPENING, IT'S STEVE SMITH, SO THERE'S NO DOUBT ON WHETHER` YOU CAN BAT HIM ANYWHERE. HE'LL SCORE RUNS. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. THE TEST IS SOLD OUT, BUT YOU CAN CATCH EVERY BALL LIVE AND FREE ON TVNZ+. AND FINALLY, FORGET EATING AT REGULAR MEAL TIMES ` FAST FOOD COMPANY WENDY'S IS CONSIDERING INTRODUCING SURGE PRICING IN THE U.S. THE IDEA TO RAISE PRICES AROUND PEAKS IN DEMAND HAS BEEN FLOATED AMONG A RAFT OF DIGITAL STRATEGY UPDATES. IT'S NOT CLEAR EXACTLY HOW THE MODEL WOULD WORK, BUT IN INDUSTRIES WHERE IT'S ALREADY USED ` INCLUDING RIDE SHARING AND TICKET SALES ` PRICES CAN QUICKLY ESCALATE AS DEMAND BUILDS. OH DEAR. IS THAT LIKE UBER? YES I THINK SO. SO IF YOU GO IN AROUND LUNCHTIME TO WENDY'S, THAT MEANS YOU ARE PAYING DOUBLE. SO GO IN AT 10 O'CLOCK. . JUST EAT UP LATER AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` THE HEAVY RAIN HAS CLEARED HERE. A MAINLY FINE DAY WITH THE HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. SUNSHINE IN THE AFTERNOON FOR KAITAIA, REACHING A HIGH OF 24. FURTHER SOUTH ` SIMILAR HERE. YOU CAN EXPECT A FINE DAY WITH SOME HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. BLUE SKIES FOR SOME OF YOU. 26 THE HIGH FOR WHAKATANE. TO THE EAST COAST ` IT'S A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY HERE, WITH SHOWERS DEVELOPING FOR YOUR AFTERNOON, TURNING HEAVY FOR SOME. MASTERTON, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 22. OVER TO THE WEST ` HIGH CLOUD CLEARING AND BECOMING FINE FOR SOME OF YOU, WITH THE ODD SHOWER FROM PALMERSTON NORTH THROUGH TO WELLINGTON. ARRIVING IN WELLY, IT'S WINDY, OF COURSE, WITH A HIGH OF 18. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU ` THE SOUTH ISLAND HIGH CLOUD WITH DRIZZLE FOR NELSON THROUGH TO KAIKOURA TODAY, BUT BLUE SKIES FOR YOU ON THE WEST COAST, REACHING A HIGH OF 21 FOR ALL OF YOU. HEADING SOUTH ` IT'S A CLOUDY DAY DOWN HERE. SOME MORNING DRIZZLE GRADUALLY CLEARING TO HIGH CLOUD FOR YOUR AFTERNOON. 17 THE HIGH IN OAMARU TODAY. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` CLOUD WITH SOME SHOWERS THIS MORNING, CLEARING TO A FINE AFTERNOON OF HIGH CLOUD, WITH THE SUN COMING THROUGH FOR SOME OF YOU. STEWART ISLAND, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 15 TODAY. VERY FEW CRICKETERS CAN SAY THEY'VE HAD A CAREER LIKE NEIL WAGNER. THE BLACKCAPS BOWLER MADE THE SHOCK ANNOUNCEMENT TO RETIRE FROM INTERNATIONAL CRICKET, YESTERDAY. HE TOOK 260 WICKETS IN 64 TESTS, A STRIKE RATE ONLY BETTERED BY THE GREAT SIR RICHARD HADLEE, AMONG THE TOP 5 WICKET TAKERS. NOT BAD COMPANY. NEIL JOINS ME THIS MORNING. CONGRATULATIONS ON A STELLAR CAREER. HOW ARE YOU FEELING TODAY ABOUT THE ANNOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY? OVERWHELMED TO BE HONEST. THE AMOUNT OF MESSAGES HAS BEEN SURREAL. I FEEL LIKE IT HASN'T REALLY SUNK IN YET. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE SUPPORT. IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO REPLY TO EVERYONE THAT IT'S VERY SPECIAL. I THINK AFTER THIS TEST MATCH, IT WILL SINK IN AND I CAN REFLECT BACK BUT FIRST THERE IS A JOB TO DO. WHAT WAS THE MAIN REASON BEHIND YOUR QUITTING NOW? IT'S NO SECRET THAT I AM GETTING OLD NOW. I'M NEARLY 38. ON THE OLDER SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM. JUST LOOKING TO THE FUTURE, THERE AREN'T THAT MANY TEST MATCHES COMING UP. WITH A FEW IN 6 TO 8 MONTHS TIME, LOOKING AFTER THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF CRICKET. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME. ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO AN END, IT'S NEVER EASY, BUT SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO MAKE THESE TOUGH DECISIONS. WE JUST SAW SOME FOOTAGE OF YOU PAYING FOR THE OTAGO VOLTS. WHEN YOU ARE OFFERED A DEAL TO COME AND PLAY HERE, THE STORY IS YOU DIDN'T LOOK AT THE MONEY. DEFINITELY. I HAD A LOVE FOR NEW ZEALAND SPORT BEFORE THAT. I OBVIOUSLY ADMIRED THE ALL BLACKS. WHEN I EXPERIENCED IN SOUTH AFRICA, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE RESPECT FOR THE ALL BLACKS SO IT'S SOMETHING I'VE ALWAYS ADMIRED. I DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR ENGLAND. ALTHOUGH IT WAS MORE MONEY STAYING THERE AND PLAYING THEIR. YOU FEEL LIKE PEOPLE WANT YOU. THEY MADE IT SOUND LIKE THEY WERE THERE TO HELP ME. IT WAS THE EASIEST DECISION AND I'M GLAD I TOOK THAT PATH. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO. 1 OF THE THINGS ABOUT PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES THESE DAYS IS A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THEM AS ALMOST UNTOUCHABLE, BUT THE WAY YOU PLAY WITH YOUR HEART ON YOUR SLEEVE I THINK PEOPLE CAN RELATE TO THAT. GIVING EVERYTHING. DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE THAT SPECIAL CONNECTION WITH NEW ZEALAND BECAUSE OF THAT? I'M JUST A NORMAL AVERAGE BLOKE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING HE LOVES. AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE LOVE IT. I APPRECIATE IT. THIS TEAM NEEDS EVERYTHING TO ME. REPRESENTING THE FERN AND WEARING A BLACK CAP WAS A HUGE HONOUR. THE TEAM AROUND YOU THAT MOTIVATES YOU, MY WIFE, MY OWN FAMILY HAVE BEEN A HUGE SUPPORT. I CANNOT THANK THEM ENOUGH. THE TIME YOU SPEND AWAY FROM HOME MAKES IT TOUGH FOR THEM. BUT THE SUPPORT THEY GIVE, ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS IT'S THE STUFF THAT MOTIVATES YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK. I NEEDED TO WORK HARD ON MY GAME AND GIVE IT MY ALL AND THAT'S WHAT MADE EVERYTHING SO SPECIAL. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU SAID, BUT IT'S JUST PART AND PARCEL OF WHAT I DO AS A JOB. WHILE WE LOVE THE PASSION AND THE SENDOFF'S, THE CHEEKY SMILES THE BATSMEN AS HE SENT BOUNCING BALLS, WHO DID YOU ENJOY PLAYING AGAINST THE GIVING LIP TO? AUSTRALIA. THAT MAKES IT HARD NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY AGAINST THOSE GUYS, IT WAS INTRIGUING IT WAS A NICE BATTLE TO BE A PART OF. I LIKE PLAYING AGAINST ENGLAND, IT WAS NICE TO GET UP ON THEM AND BEAT THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES. THAT SOMETHING THAT I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER. CONGRATULATIONS ON AN AMAZING CAREER. AS WE GO, WHAT ARE YOU DOING NEXT? I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO PLAY CRICKET FOR THE DISTRICTS ARE TRYING PLAY CRICKET AT FRANCHISE LEVEL. WILL HAVE A LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING OVERSEAS AND SEE WHAT COMES NEXT. ENJOY NEIL. ENJOY SPENDING MORE TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY. ONE OF THE GREATS I SAY. THE BEST IS YET TO COME. I LOVE HOW HE SAYS HE IS NOT SPECIAL, JUST A NORMAL BLOKE. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE LOVE YOU. I THINK ABOUT THE PLAYERS THAT CAME FROM SOUTH AFRICA TO PLAY FOR NEW ZEALAND AND THERE WAS ALWAYS A CONNECTION THERE. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER NEIL IF YOU ARE STILL WATCHING, IS THE UNDER 12 AUCKLAND UNIVERSITY CRICKET CLUB ARE LOOKING FOR A PERMANENT COACH SO KEEP THE OPTIONS OPEN. GOOD MAN NEIL. ME U TONU MAI, MORE AND MORE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE PUTTING DOWN THE BOOZE. IS IT TOO PRICEY OR JUST TOO MUCH? WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. # I WOKE UP WITH A HEADACHE AND MY MEMORY IS ALL GONE. # I SPENT ALL MY MONEY ON MARTINIS AND BRUNCH. HEAVY DRINKING USED TO BE AS CLOSELY TIED TO OUR NATIONAL IDENTITY AS A RUGBY BALL, BUT TIMES ARE CHANGING. THE AMOUNT OF BOOZE NEW ZEALANDERS HAD LAST YEAR DECREASED BY OVER 400 MILLION LITRES WHEN COMPARED TO 2022. IT'S THE BIGGEST YEAR-ON-YEAR DECREASE IN 15 YEARS. FOR MORE ON WHY NEW ZEALANDERS ARE DRINKING LESS WE'RE JOINED BY ONE MAN WHO HASN'T TOUCHED THE STUFF FOR NEARLY 10 YEARS, TUKI LAUMEA. MORENA. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. THANK YOU FOR BEING OPEN TO SHARING YOUR STORY AS WELL. IT'S BEEN ALMOST 10 YEARS SINCE YOU STOPPED DRINKING. WHY? I GREW UP IN THE 90S, EARLY 2000. IT WAS PRETTY NORMAL. YOU LIVE WITH FOR THAT WEEKEND* YOU GO TO PARTIES AND DRINK, AND IF YOU DIDN'T DO THAT, YOU WEREN'T ACCEPTED. AS A SOCIETY, WE WERE CONDITIONED TO JUST GET ON IT, AT LEAST I WAS. THAT CARRIED THROUGH TO MY ADULT LIFE. I WAS GOING TO WORK IN DEALING WITH TRAUMATIC STUFF DOING THAT, SO YOU DRINK BEER. SOCIAL SITUATIONS, YOU HAVING SIDE HE, SO I DRINK BEER. I WOULDN'T SAY I WAS THE ATYPICAL ALCOHOLIC ` I DIDN'T DRINK EVERY NIGHT. BUT WHEN I DRANK, DRINK HEAPS. I WAS A BINGE DRINKER, WHICH I THINK IS COMMON HERE IN NEW ZEALAND. I WAS REALLY OVERWEIGHT AND UNHEALTHY. I WOKE UP ONE MORNING WITH THAT TASTE IN YOUR MOUTH LATE, DID I EAT LIKE 1000 DEAD RATS LAST NIGHT? I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS UP TO. I THOUGHT, I'VE GOT TO STOP. I PROPER GOING TO KILL MYSELF. I LOST 40 KG. I PROBABLY BOUGHT MYSELF 15 YEARS. AND I'M DEFINITELY WAY HAPPY AFTER I DITCHED IT. WHAT WAS IT LIKE 10 YEARS AGO GIVING UP? WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LITTLE BIT THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW WE RECKON THIS YOUNGER GENERATION KIND OF GET IT. AND SO IF YOU'RE NOT DRINKING, YOU WORK WITH YOUNG PEOPLE AS WELL, AND THEY DON'T CARE SO MUCH FOR IT. WHEN YOU STOP, WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING. PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE BIT TAKEN ABACK BY ` NOT EVERYBODY, BUT OFTEN WHEN YOU GO INTO SOCIAL SITUATIONS, THEY OFFER YOU A DRINK, YOU SAY, NO I DON'T DRINK. THEY WANT AN EXPLANATION. THEY KIND OF WITHDRAW A LITTLE BIT. I USED TO JUST HAVE A BIT OF FUN WITH IT. I WOULD MAKE UP STORIES. YOU KNOW, I USED TO DO LOTS OF CRAZY STUFF FOR WORK AND TRAVEL LOTS OF PLACES. CITED WITH FOUR BOTTLES OF TEQUILA, AND RIO, WITH A TABLE FULL OF GUNS. I COULD DEFINITELY STILL HAVE FUN WITH IT, BUT I NOTICED IT WAS HARDER IN SOCIAL SITUATIONS. I NOTICE THAT HAS CHANGED NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED. YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MORE COGNISANT. THEY ARE MORE AWARE, MORE UNDERSTANDING. I WAS AN IDIOT WHEN I WAS 20, BUT THESE GUYS SEEM TO BE A LOT SMARTER THAN I WAS. IN OUR WHANAU, WE HAVE MADE THE CONSCIOUS DECISION NOT TO DRINK ALCOHOL. AND THAT IS GOING ON THREE WEEKS NOW. THAT IS BECAUSE I LISTENED TO A SHORT PODCAST ` 20 MINUTES ` WHICH WAS A SUMMARY OF A BOOK. IT GOT YOU TO THINK ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT THE WHOLE, WHICH I HAD NEVER REALLY DONE BEFORE. AND SO I WONDER HOW MUCH THAT PLAYED INTO YOU GIVING UP AS WELL. BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU WERE ANXIOUS, YOU WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DRINK. IT IS ACTUALLY CALLING YOURSELF OUT ON THIS, RIGHT? IT IS THE SAME THING WHEN PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, YOU DON'T DRINK? AND THEY REMOVE THEMSELVES. IT IS LIKE A REFLECTION OF THEM. IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. I THINK IT'S MORE THEIR REACTION TO IT AND THEIR OWN RELATIONSHIP TO. THAT IS HOW I LOOKED AT IT. IT IS HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE. I HAD A STEPFATHER WHO WAS THE WORST ALCOHOLIC I'VE EVER SEEN. I HAD A DAD WHO WOULD DRINK WHEN I WAS A BIT YOUNGER. I HAVE KIDS, AND THEY DON'T CARE IF I AM HUNG OVER. THEY JUST CARE OF I AM PRESENT WITH THEM. SO I WANTED TO BE A BETTER DAD, BE A BETTER MAN AND LIVE MY LIFE. CONGRATULATIONS. GO YOU. LOVE IT. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR STORY WITH US, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT EASY. LOTS OF FEEDBACK HAS BEEN COMING IN FOR THE ONE VIEW A ROW, I HAVE TWO CHILDREN ` 19-YEAR-OLD SON IN 21 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER ` THEY BOTH DON'T DRINK. PERHAPS THEY LEARNED FROM WATCHING THEIR PARENTS MISTAKES IS NOT ZARA HAS WRITTEN AND, I AM A LINEAL, AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF US, IT IS THE NEED TO SWITCH TO A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE. SO THAT IS WHY THE YOUNG ONES ARE NOT DRINKING AS MUCH. I THINK ALSO ANOTHER FACTOR IS THAT MY PARENTS WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT ALCOHOL WITH ME. WE USED TO SNEAK BEHIND THE SCHOOL HALL AND GUZZLE DOWN ALCOHOL BACK ON THE DAY. YOU DON'T WANT YOUR KIDS TO FOLLOW THAT. IT IS IMPORTANT TO EDUCATE YOUNG ONES ABOUT THE CHOICES THEY CAN MAKE. I HAD THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL AT THE MOMENT ` I WANT A MARGARITA! VERY QUICKLY, I THINK PART OF IT AS EDUCATION, BUT ALSO, KIDS DO WHAT THEY SEE. TRUE. SO THE BEHAVIOUR WE ARE SHOWING AT HOME, THEY POTENTIALLY WILL GO, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT OR, THAT IS JUST NORMAL. THEY THINK EITHER, THAT IS GOOD BEHAVIOUR TO REPEAT, OR I AM NEVER GOING TO BE THAT PERSON. SEND US YOUR FEEDBACK. NO, YOU GO. E WHAI AKE NEI ` WHAT TO WEAR TO A JOB INTERVIEW. WHY THE INVERCARGILL BUSINESS HAS YOU SORTED WITH A BIT OF A TWIST. # I CAN BY MYSELF FLOWERS. YOU DON'T GET A SECOND FIRST IMPRESSION, PARTICULARLY NOT IN A JOB INTERVIEW. BUT THE EXPERIENCE OF ONE SOUTHLAND BUSINESSWOMAN HAS LED TO A SERVICE HELPING PEOPLE MAKE THE BEST FIRST IMPRESSION POSSIBLE, FOR JOB INTERVIEWS, COURT APPEARANCES, AND NOW - SCHOOL BALLS. TO EXPLAIN MORE WE'RE JOINED BY INVERCARGILL'S KELLY BLOMFIELD. MORENA KELLY. GOOD MORNING HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. WE MUST GO BACK IN TERMS OF THE JOB INTERVIEW. TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. YEARS AGO I WAS PART OF A JOB INTERVIEW AND IT INCLUDED THIS AWESOME GIRL IN A CASUAL SETTING. SHOWED UP IN QUITE CASUAL DRESS AND MY BOSS AT THE TIME COULD NOT SEE PAST IT. SHE ENDED UP BEING THE BEST PERSON SHE COULD HAVE HIRED BUT HE COULDN'T SEE PAST THE MARK ON HER SHIRT AND I WANNA SIT HELP PEOPLE IN THOSE SITUATIONS. WE JUST REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. , ANYBODY WHO HAS JOB INTERVIEWS, COURT APPEARANCES CONFERENCES ANY OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUT YOUR BEST FOOT FORWARD AND MAKE A GREAT FIRST IMPRESSION, WE HAVE GOT THE CLOTHES AND THE STYLING AND WE ARE READY AND WILLING AND ABLE TO HELP. HOW'S THE COMMUNITY RESPONDED? AWESOMELY. WE'VE HAD YOUNGER STUDENTS WHO COME THROUGH AND WE HELP THEM DRESS MORE PROFESSIONALLY FOR THEIR FIRST STEP INTO ADULT LEARNING. IT'S GONE REALLY WELL. I SEE BEHIND YOU YOU HAVE SOME. RACKS WHO IS DONATING THESE? HOW DO YOU PASS THEM ON? TO START WITH, MOST OF IT IS BASED OUT OF A FRIEND AND EYES WARDROBE. WE ENDED UP WITH A MASSIVE OVERFLOW OF CLOTHING AND THOUGHT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS. WE THREW AROUND THE IDEA OF HAVING A WEE SHOT OUT THE BACK. A LOT OF STUFF CAME FROM WARDROBES, EACH MONDAY I GO SHOPPING AND I GOT A MENTAL CHECKLIST OF ALL THE THINGS I LOOK FOR TO REPLENISH THE NEW STOCK AND WE TAKE DONATIONS AS WELL. WHAT IS BAWLING ON A BUDGET? GOING TO A BALL AS A RITE OF PASSAGE. IT IS NOT CHEAP AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE WITH THE COST OF LIVING BEING SO HIGH IT IS AN EXPERIENCE A LOT OF TEENAGERS WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS JUST UNAFFORDABLE. SO I HELP THEM CREATE AN EXPERIENCE WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE FULL BALL EXPERIENCE AND IT'S A LOT OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN ART OF AMAZING PEOPLE. FOR THE WHOLE BALL SEASON, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. IS THERE STILL A STIGMA WITH PEOPLE COMING IN ASKING TO USE USED CLOTHING? IS THAT STIGMA STILL ALLOWED PEOPLE NOT CARE? NO THEY DON'T CARE. I PREDOMINANTLY RUN DESIGNER LABEL STUFF SO I KNOW IT'S A QUALITY PIECE THAT WILL LAST YEARS AND YEARS. FASHION GOES AROUND AND RECYCLES ITSELF. VINTAGE PIECES, OLDER PIECES ARE MORE POPULAR THAN EVER. A KEEP STUFF OUT OF LANDFILL. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY STIGMA BEHIND IT. EVERYTHING IS WASHED AND STEAMED AND SMELLS LOVELY. I LOVE IT THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE FEDERATION OF ISLAMIC ASSOCIATIONS SAYS PLANS TO REWRITE THE ARMS ACT ARE WORRYING. THE ASSOCIATE JUSTICE MINISTER, ACT'S NICOLE McKEE, SAYS THE REWRITE WILL MAKE CHANGES TO THE LICENSING SYSTEM FOR SEMI-AUTOMATIC FIREARMS TO ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS IT COULD INCLUDE THE RETURN OF THE MILITARY-STYLE WEAPON USED IN THE MARCH 15 CHRISTCHURCH TERROR ATTACKS TO GUN RANGES. THE TERRORIST BELONGED TO A GUN CLUB. THE TERRORIST HAD GOT A HANDLE OF ` WAIT FOR IT ` SOME DOZEN SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. SO THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT GUN CLUB MEMBERS WILL NOT BE ALSO INVOLVED IN THESE KINDS OF THINGS. SO WE ARE ACTUALLY QUITE WORRIED ABOUT THIS, AND IT RUNS ABSOLUTELY COUNTER IN THE FACE OF ALL EVIDENCE. IF WILL BE A POLITICAL DECISION, RATHER THAN A DECISION BASED ON NATIONAL SECURITY AND NATIONAL SAFETY. A SPOKESPERSON FOR NICOLE MCKEE SAYS THERE WILL BE CONSULTATION ON ANY CHANGES AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE MADE AWARE. BUT LABOUR LEADER CHRIS HIPKINS BELIEVES CHANGING FIREARMS LAWS WOULD RESULT IN MORE GANGS GETTING MILITARY STYLE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. I'M VERY PROUD OF THE BAN ON MILITARY-STYLE SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE AS A GOVERNMENT. IT WAS ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BY THE PARLIAMENT. I THINK DAVID SEYMOUR WAS THE ONLYE THAT VOTED AGAINST. I'M DISAPPOINTED NATIONAL VOTING AGAINST THAT. THE FIRST STEPS TOWARDS DISESTABLISHING THE MAORI HEALTH AUTHORITY WILL RESUME TODAY AFTER DEBATE IN PARLIAMENT STRETCHED LATE INTO LAST NIGHT. THE FIRST TWO STAGES OF THE AMENDMENT BILL, WHICH WOULD SEE TE AKA WHAI ORA SCRAPPED, PASSED YESTERDAY WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE THREE COALITION PARTIES. THOUGH, THE REPEAL HAS SPARKED OUTRAGE FROM THE OPPOSITION. PARLIAMENT WILL CONVENE AGAIN AT 9am FOR FURTHER DEBATE AND A VOTE ON THE THIRD READING. AN INVERCARGILL HIGH SCHOOL THAT'S WAITED NEARLY A DECADE FOR NEW BUILDINGS IS PLEADING FOR THE MUCH NEEDED CLASSROOMS, SAYING THE POLITICS DON'T MATTER. THE GOVERNMENT'S ANNOUNCED A PAUSE ON 20 SCHOOL BUILDING PROJECTS WHILE AN INQUIRY INTO COST BLOW OUTS IS COMPLETED. JAMES HARGEST COLLEGE'S MIKE NEWELL IS HOPEFUL THIS MIGHT FIX SYSTEMIC ISSUES, BUT BUILDINGS JUST NEED TO BE BUILT. THIS WASN'T CREATED UNDER ONE GOVERNMENT. THIS HAS BEEN YEARS OF UNDERDEVELOPMENT IN THE TIME FRAMES TO GET ANYTHING DONE WITH THE BUREAUCRACY, SO YEAH, I'M NOT REALLY INTO THE BLAME GAME BUT ONE COULD ARGUE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF UNDER INVESTMENT FROM THE LAST TEAM. MIKE NEWELL TOLD BREAKFAST A CEILING COLLAPSED ON A STUDENT 18 MONTHS AGO BECAUSE OF LEAKS. THE STUDENT WAS UNHARMED. POLISH FARMERS HAVE ADDED THEIR NOISY SUPPORT TO ONGOING PROTESTS ACROSS EUROPE. THEY GATHERED IN WARSAW AND THEN MARCHED AROUND 3km THROUGH THE CITY TO THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE. THEY'RE ANGRY ABOUT NEW ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND IMPORT DEALS WHICH THEY SAY MAKE THEIR LIVELIHOODS UNSUSTAINABLE. AND SPANISH FARMERS HAVE TAKEN A MORE DIRECT APPROACH, BLOCKING HIGHWAYS BEFORE BREAKING INTO TRUCKS AND THROWING THE IMPORTED PRODUCE ON THE GROUND. SPAIN'S AGRICULTURE MINISTER SAYS HE'LL MEET WITH FOOD-PRODUCING UNIONS THIS WEEK. AND FINALLY, THE OWNERS OR WHAT WAS BRITAIN'S WONKIEST PUB HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO REBUILD IT AFTER A SUSPECTED ARSON ATTACK. THE APTLY NAMED 'CROOKED HOUSE PUB' BURNED DOWN LAST YEAR. AND AFTER MONTHS OF NEGOTIATIONS, THE COUNCIL HAS NOW ORDERED THE FORMER OWNERS TO REBUILD IT AS IT WAS, INCLUDING ITS DISTINCTIVE LEAN. THE POST-ARSON DEMOLITION WAS RULED TO BE UNLAWFUL. THE PUB MUST BE REBUILT WITHIN THREE YEARS. TO SPORT, AND DESPITE RETIRING FROM INTERNATIONAL CRICKET, BLACKCAPS PACE BOWLER NEIL WAGNER WANTS TO CONTINUE TO PLAY DOMESTICALLY. WAGNER PLAYED 64 TESTS FOR NEW ZEALAND, COLLECTING 260 WICKETS, FINISHING HIS CAREER FIFTH ON NEW ZEALAND'S ALL-TIME WICKET TAKERS LIST. THE 37-YEAR-OLD WILL BE RELEASED FROM THE SQUAD AHEAD OF THE SECOND TEST AGAINST AUSTRALIA. WELL, I'M DEFINITELY GONNA, YEAH, PLAY MORE DOMESTIC CRICKET FOR NORTHERN DISTRICTS, BE INVOLVED WITH THEM, STILL TRY AND PLAY CRICKET AT FRANCHISE LEVEL AND SORT OF DIP MY TOES OVERSEAS AND SEE WHAT COMES NEXT. YEAH, I GUESS THE WORLD'S YOUR OYSTER. HOPEFULLY THINGS COME AROUND. WAGNER WON'T FEATURE IN THE STARTING 11 FOR THE OPENING TEST AT THE BASIN, WHICH STARTS TOMORROW. TO SPORT, AND RED BULL HAVE DEVELOP NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS A DRONE TO DELIVER AN UNINTERRUPTED LAP OF A FORMULA 1 CAR. THE WORLD'S FASTEST FILMING DRONE CAN ACCELERATE TWO TIMES FASTER THAN AN F1 CAR, REACHING 300km/h IN JUST FOUR SECONDS. ITS MAX SPEED IS 350km/h, COMPARED TO YOUR AVERAGE DRONE WHICH CAN REACH AROUND 70. VERY NICHE SPORTS STORY. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING ` TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY, THE HEAVY RAIN HAS CLEARED HERE. A MAINLY FINE DAY WITH THE HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. SUNSHINE IN THE AFTERNOON FOR KAITAIA, REACHING A HIGH OF 24. FURTHER SOUTH, SIMILAR HERE. YOU CAN EXPECT A FINE DAY, SOME HIGH CLOUD ABOUT WITH BLUE SKIES FOR SOME OF YOU. 26 THE HIGH FOR WHAKATANE. TO THE EAST COAST ` IT'S A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY HERE. SHOWERS DEVELOPING FOR YOUR AFTERNOON, TURNING HEAVY FOR SOME. MASTERTON, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 22. OVER TO THE WEST ` HIGH CLOUD CLEARING AND BECOMING FINE FOR SOME OF YOU, WITH THE ODD SHOWER FROM PALMERSTON NORTH THROUGH TO WELLINGTON. ARRIVING IN WELLY, IT'S WINDY OF COURSE, WITH A HIGH OF 18. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU ` HIGH CLOUD WITH DRIZZLE FOR NELSON THROUGH TO KAIKOURA TODAY, BUT BLUE SKIES FOR YOU ON THE WEST COAST, REACHING A HIGH OF 21 FOR ALL OF YOU. HEADING SOUTH ` IT'S A CLOUDY DAY DOWN HERE. SOME MORNING DIRZZLE GRADUALLY CLEARING TO HIGH CLOUD FOR YOUR AFTERNOON. 17 THE HIGH IN OAMARU TODAY. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` CLOUD WITH SOME SHOWERS THIS MORNING, CLEARING TO A FINE AFTERNOON OF HIGH CLOUD, WITH THE SUN COMING THROUGH FOR SOME OF YOU. STEWART ISLAND, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 15 TODAY. IT'S NOT THE HAPPIEST ANNIVERSARY, PERHAPS, BUT TODAY MARKS EXACTLY FOUR YEARS SINCE THE FIRST CONFIRMED CASE OF COVID-19 IN NEW ZEALAND. WITHIN LESS THAN A MONTH FROM FEBRUARY 28 2020, THE COUNTRY HAD SEEN DOZENS MORE CASES, TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED, AN EMERGENCY BUDGET, AND FINALLY THE FIRST FULL NATIONAL LOCKDOWN, WHICH BEGAN ON MARCH 25. IN THE DAYS, MONTHS, AND YES, YEARS THAT FOLLOWED, OUR NEXT GUEST BECAME A VERY FAMILIAR FACE. AS DIRECTOR-GENERAL OF HEALTH, HIS 1PM COVID UPDATE WITH THEN PRIME MINISTER JACINDA ARDERN BECAME APPOINTMENT VIEWING FOR MUCH OF THE COUNTRY. PROFESSOR SIR ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD, IT'S GREAT TO WELCOME YOU TO BREAKFAST. MORNING, HOW ARE YOU? I'M VERY WELL. IT IS LOVELY TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW WITH US./ CAN YOU REFLECT BACK ON 2020. U CAN YOU REFLECT BACK ON 2024 YEARS AGO WHEN THAT FIRST CASE OF CODED WAS ANNOUNCED. CAN YOU REMEMBER WHAT YOUR REACTION WAS? I CAN REMEMBER IT VERY WELL. I HAD TAKEN A COUPLE OF DAYS OFF, MY THURSDAYS OFF IN A MONTH. I HAD A LONG PLANNED MOUNTAIN BIKING TRIP AND THE CALL CAME. THE CALL CAME THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED A FIRST CASE SO FROM A MATES MAN I JOINED THE CABINET CALL ON MY PHONE AND THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT I NEEDED TO ANNOUNCE THE CASE. IT WAS A FLIGHT EARLY NEXT MORNING FROM WESTPORT BACK TO WELLINGTON SO I HAVE A VIVID MEMORY OF THE EVENTS. IT WAS VERY SYMBOLIC AND IT'S REMARKABLE TO RECALL THAT FROM ONE CASE ON THAT DAY, THEY STAY FOUR YEARS AGO, TO WITHIN 2 1/2 WEEKS OUR BORDERS CLOSED, AND THEN A WEEK LATER WE WIN THAT FIRST LOCKDOWN SO THINGS MOVED INCREDIBLY QUICKLY. YOU USE THE WORD UNPRECEDENTED BACK THEN. HOW PREPARED WHERE YOU FOR WHAT WAS TO FOLLOW OVER THE COMING DAYS WEEKS AND YEARS? I HAD SEVERAL WEEKS WHERE I DIDN'T FEEL AT ALL PREPARED. IT WAS A TIME OF GREAT ANXIETY AND AT TIMES QUITE TERRIFYING. I TALKED ABOUT WAKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT IN A COLD SWEAT BUT WE WERE ALL IN THE SAME POSITION. EVERY COUNTRY WAS IN THE SAME POSITION AND I THINK WE SETTLED INTO IT IN NEW ZEALAND IN TERMS OF OUR DECISION-MAKING, THE WAY WE USED EVIDENCE AND SCIENCE AND OF COURSE WE WERE WATCHING WHAT EVERYONE WAS DOING OVERSEAS. THAT WAS OUR STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE. WE HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS WHERE WE COULD SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING ELSEWHERE AND THEN MAKE OUR DECISIONS BASED ON THAT. THEY WERE DECISIONS I NEVER IMAGINED THE COUNTRY WOULD TAKE LET ALONE I WOULD BE A KEY PART OF ADVISING ON. I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT WAKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WITH A COLD SWEAT I WONDER ABOUT WHETHER THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE DECISIONS YOU ARE HAVING TO MAKE OR MAYBE THE REACTIONS THAT YOU ARE GETTING AS A RESPONSE TO THOSE DECISIONS THAT YOU ARE MAKING? WHAT WAS THAT THAT ABOUT? THERE WERE TWO THINGS. ONE WAS THE INCREDIBLE UNCERTAINTY. WE HAD ONE CASE, ONLY A FEW HUNDRED AROUND THE WORLD, BUT IT WAS MOVING SO QUICKLY AND WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THESE BIG DECISIONS. IT WAS THE SIZE OF THE DECISIONS AND THE UNCERTAINTY. THE RESPONSE WAS, THE REACTION REALLY, CAME A LOT LATER IN THE PANDEMIC. AT THAT TIME EVERYBODY WAS FRIGHTENED. EVERYBODY COULD SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE UK AND NORTHERN ITALY. I THINK THE STUDIES SHOWED THERE WAS A STRONG SENSE OF CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IN THE GOVERNMENT'S BIG DECISIONS, ESPECIALLY AROUND BORDER CLOSURES AND THE LOCKDOWN'S. AS THE DIRECTOR-GENERAL BACK THEN, I IMAGINED YOU DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE YOURSELF BEING SUCH A HUGE PART OF THE RESPONSE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PUBLIC COULD SEE. FRONTING THOSE 1 PM UPDATES AND AS A RESULT OF THAT OF COURSE THERE WAS A LOT OF MERCHANDISE PRODUCED. YOU WITH A GUY EVERYBODY LOOK TO FOR WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT. WERE TALKING ABOUT FACES AND I WENT THROUGHON DETAILS THERE WAS A DUVET. AND I WONDER HOW YOU REFLECT ON THAT NOW? IT ALL SEEMS A LITTLE SURREAL. I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT TOO MUCH. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A NEW DUVET COVER. ARE NOT SURE MY WIFE WOULD BE IN THE MARKET FOR ONE WITH MY FACE ON IT. IN A WAY THAT FEELS SURREAL FOR ME PERSONALLY, BUT IT WAS A SURREAL TIME FOR EVERYBODY. IT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY TIME. ONE THING I WANT TO EMPHASISE IS THAT NEW ZEALAND'S RESPONSE OVERALL, GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY, GIVEN THE VOLATILITY AND COMPLEXITY, WAS REALLY ONE OF THE BEST RESPONSES GLOBALLY. I AM DOING SOME WORK INTERNATIONALLY AND THIS IS A COMMON MESSAGE I GET FROM PEOPLE AROUND THE GLOBE INCLUDING SENIOR STAFF AT THE W.H.O. NO ONE MOUNTED A PERFECT RESPONSE BUT AS A COUNTRY AND A PEOPLE WE PULLED TOGETHER AND SHOWED A STRONG SENSE OF COHERENCE AND KINDNESS. THAT IS A GOOD POINT BUT ALSO IF YOU REFLECT BACK ON THAT TIME AS WELL, WAS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY? THE ONLY THING I'VE SAID I WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY IS KEEP A DIARY. I DID NOT HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO IT, BUT IT FEELS LIKE A BLUR NOW AND THERE WAS SOME REALLY BIG MOMENTS WHERE IF I'D BEEN KEEPING TABS ON WHAT I WAS THINKING ON WHAT I FELT, IT WOULD BE USEFUL AT SOME POINT. HOW IS LIFE NOW? LIFE IS GREAT. AND ENJOY MY ROLE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF AUCKLAND. I THINK MY FAMILY ARE PLEASED TO HAVE MORE OF ME NOW AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO STEP OUT OF THAT, LEAVE THE LEADERSHIP OF THE HEALTH SYSTEM TO OTHERS, AFTER QUITE A LONG TIME IN LEADERSHIP ROLES, IS GREAT. I AM ENJOYING MY NEW PURSUITS IN MY FREE TIME. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND BEING WITH US HERE ON BREAKFAST. THANK YOU. DR BLOOMFIELD SEO FEELS LIKE A BLUR? NO KIDDING. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALCOHOL AND IF THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT IN OUR DRINKING CULTURE. NEW FIGURES SHOW OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE PUTTING DOWN THE BOOZE. IT'S ABOUT THE REDUCTION IN ALCOHOL SALES. THAT'S TIME ON LAST YEAR. BUT THE INCREASE IN THE SALES OF 0% BEER IN PARTICULAR, SO WE'VE BEEN ASKING WHY HAVE YOU CUT BACK YOUR DRINKING? SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT JUST COSTS TOO MUCH TO BUY BEER. IS THAT THE CARBONATION THING? IS NOT THE CARBONATION ISSUES? ARE NOT SURE. MICHAEL SAYS NO ONE WANTS A HANGOVER ANY MORE BECAUSE IT HURTS AND ALSO MONEY. ALCOHOL IS GETTING A BIT TOO EXPENSIVE. WE DRINK TOO MUCH IN THIS COUNTRY ANYWAY. WHEN YOU GO OVERSEAS YOU DON'T SEE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT YOU SEE IN DOWNTOWN AUCKLAND. IS A GOOD THING WE'VE EASED OFF A BIT. BACK IN MY DAYS... WITH COME DOWN FROM DISGUSTINGLY HIGH TO MODERATELY HIGH. NOTHING WRONG WITH A FEW HERE AND THERE. WHY BUY THREE BOTTLES AND CANS FOR A PRICE PER BOX? THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH OUR PRELOADED CULTURE. WE HAVE THIS BIZARRE CULTURE THAT YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THE BAR HAMMERED. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY BOOZE THERE WHICH IS BONKERS. JUST DON'T GO INTO THE CONCEPT YOU GET TRASHED IN THE BAR. GO ON HAVING A TIME. YOU WILL SIGN VERY RESPONSIBLE. EVERYONE SOUNDS RESPONSIBLE. I'M WORKING ON IT. YOUR CHILDREN ARE DECIDED NOT TO FOLLOW IN YOUR FOOTSTEPS. COMING UP ` WHAT'S GOT THESE TWO COMEDIANS LAUGHING ABOUT THE END OF THE WORLD? THAT DISCUSSION NEXT. OK, IT'S TIME FOR SOME BAD NEWS. THAT'S RIGHT ` ANOTHER SEASON OF THE HIT SHOW FROM LAWYER-TURNED-COMEDIAN ALICE SNEDDEN HAS ARRIVED, THIS TIME TAKING ON A HOT TOPIC ` CLIMATE CHANGE. LIKE, YOU MANNER IS SO FRIENDLY, AND, LIKE, HONESTLY QUITE SOOTHING, BUT THEN, LIKE, IF I WAS TO READ WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ON PAPER, I WOULD KIND OF READ THAT AND SAY, 'THERE IS NO HOPE'. (LAUGHS) OK, COOL. (LAUGHS) FOR MORE DEPRESSING ANECDOTES ALICE SNEDDEN JOINS US NOW. MORENA. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE NAME OF THE FIRST EPISODE, IT'S A SWEARWORD THAT MAKES A LONG BEEP SOUND, THIS IS A DISASTER COMEDY. I GUESS IT IS. I DIDN'T MAKE IT THINKING HOW COULD I RUIN EVERYONE'S DAY, BUT THAT IS WHAT IT HAS ENDED UP BEING. AT ONE POINT, HE SAYS THERE IS NO SCENARIO WHERE THE FATE OF HUMANITY IS NOT MISERABLE. WHEN I HEARD THAT, THAT WAS DEFINITELY A SOBERING THING TO HEAR FROM SOMEBODY WHO SEEMS SO KIND AND REASONABLE. IT RUINED MY DAY. THIS IS WHY I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT FOR SO LONG. WE DID THREE SEASONS AND I DIDN'T WANT TO DO ONE ON CLIMATE CHANGE BECAUSE THERE IS NO GOOD ANSWER TO IT I LOVE MEAT AND DAIRY AND DRIVING. TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE IS AWFUL. AT THE SAME TIME, FROM ALL THE DISCUSSIONS YOU'VE HAD, THE OPTIONS ARE PRETTY EXTREME. AND AT THE MOMENT IT FEELS LIKE BEING A FROG IN A BOILING POT IS WHERE WE ARE HEADING. WHAT RESONATED WITH ME THE MOST, IS WE ARE GIVING IT OVER AGENCY. I'M TRYING TO CONTROL MY OWN SPHERE, BUT BY NOT DOING ANYTHING IS GIVING CONTROL TO MOTHER NATURE. NOT MAKING A CHOICE ARE STILL MAKING A CHOICE. TOTALLY. MAYBE DON'T WATCH IT. IT SO BLEAK. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I DON'T THINK I BRING THIS FOR ANYONE, YOU HAD AN OPENING SCENE WITH A SURVIVAL EXPERT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WASN'T DIRECTLY ADDRESSED, YOU SEEMS TO LOSE CONCENTRATION A FEW TIMES, I WONDER IF OUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS CLIMATE CHANGE IS WHERE BEING DISTRACTED BY OTHER IMMEDIATE THINGS IN FRONT OF US. I LOVE TO THINK THAT'S NOT JUST A PERSONAL DEFICIT. JAMES SHAW TALKS ABOUT THAT AS WELL. THE IDEA THAT WE CAN ONLY DEAL WITH SOMETHING THAT IS AN IMMEDIATE AND PRESSING THREAT IN FRONT OF US. I THINK THE SAME THING ABOUT SMOKING FOR EXAMPLE. IT TASTES SO GOOD. YOU DON'T GET CANCER ON THE FIRST CIGARETTE. THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR FUTURE YOU. YOU CAN PUSH IT RIGHT OFF BUT IT WILL CATCH YOU IN THE END. SERIOUSLY THOUGH YOU ARE HAVING SOME DIFFICULT DISCUSSIONS AND THE NEXT EPISODE LOOK, I WOULDN'T TOUCH THIS WITH A BAR OF SOAP. YOU'RE GOING TO TALK TO DAIRY FARMERS. AGRICULTURE IN NEW ZEALAND IS OUR BIGGEST EMITTER. THEY ARE NOT UNIQUE IN THAT SENSE. EVERY COUNTRY'S BIGGEST INDUSTRY IS THE BIGGEST EMITTER. BUT IT'S UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT IT SEEMS TO BE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE FARMING IN THIS COUNTRY HAS A CULTURAL HOLD. . IT IS THE BACKBONE OF THIS ECONOMY BUT IT'S ALSO NOT THE BACKBONE OF THE ECONOMY ANY MORE. THAT IS THE NARRATIVE. SO I TALK TO FARMERS ABOUT IT AND I HAVE A LOT OF COMPASSION FOR THEM. THEY ARE NOT IN A GOOD POSITION. IT'S A BAD BUSINESS TO BE IN ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE FARMING ON LAND THAT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR WHAT YOU ARE FARMING. BUT I ALSO THINK IT HAS TO CHANGE. HOW MANY EPISODES IN THE SERIES? IS A TWO-PART CHRISTMAS SPECIAL EVEN THOUGH IT'S COMING OUT NOW. EVERYONE HAS TOLD ME NOT TO CALL IT THAT. SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. HAVING BEEN SUED YET? I CAME CLOSE. WE HAD AN OFFICIAL COMPLAINT TO THE MEDIA BOARD. I DID AN EPISODE ABOUT TERFS. I HAVEN'T BEEN SUED ON THIS ONE YET. THE SECOND PART HASN'T COME OUT, SO THERE'S STILL TIME. BUT I HOPE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WE DID SO EVERYTHING CAN STAND UP. I'VE GOT NO MONEY, IT'S NOT WORTH COMING FOR ME. THE WORLD IS ENDING ANYWAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA ` YOUR 8.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. PLUS, JENNIFER ANISTON HAS BEEN SPOTTED WEARING A RING, BUT IS IT AN ENGAGEMENT ONE? OUR HOLLYWOOD CORRESPONDENT HAS BEEN DOING SOME DIGGING. I LOVE THIS JUICY GOSSIP. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. BUILDING OFF THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT'S SMOKE-FREE LAWS IS WHAT THE ASSOCIATE HEALTH MINISTER INTENDS TO DO DESPITE SCRAPPING PLANS TO LIMIT TOBACCO SELLERS. CASEY COSTELLO TOLD BREAKFAST SHE WILL OUTLINE HER OWN PLAN NEXT WEEK ON HOW TO HIT AOTEAROA'S GOAL OF SMOKE-FREE 2025. COSTELLO WANTS TO TIGHTEN UP VAPING REGULATIONS AND PROVIDE THE BEST TOOLS TO SMOKERS TO QUIT SMOKING. THINGS WE ARE REPEALING HAVE NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED. THEY WEREN'T TO BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL LATER THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER. WHAT WE ARE REPEALING IS STUFF THAT ISN'T IN PLACE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ON WHAT WE KNOW IS WORKING. CASEY COSTELLO SAYS SMOKE-FREE NEVER MEANT ZERO NEW ZEALANDERS SMOKING. LABOUR LEADER CHRIS HIPKINS BELIEVES THE GOVERNMENT IS PRIORITISING TAX REVENUE OVER THE HEALTH OF NEW ZEALANDERS. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND CASEY COSTELLO IS I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOUNG NEW ZEALANDERS SHOULD BE TAKING UP SMOKING, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE MAKING IT IS EASIER THEM TO DO SO. SHE DOES SEEM TO THINK THAT MAKING IT EASIER FOR THEM TO TAKE UP SMOKING IS A MORALLY ACCEPTABLE THING FOR GOVERNMENT TO DO. I THINK SHE'S WRONG. THE RESERVE BANK IS SET FOR ITS FIRST OFFICIAL CASH RATE UPDATE OF THE YEAR LATER TODAY. MOST ECONOMISTS ARE EXPECTING THE OCR TO REMAIN AT 5.5%. BUT WITH HIGH INFLATION STILL LURKING, SOME ARE WARY OF AN HIKE. AN ANNOUNCEMENT IS EXPECTED AT 2pm THIS AFTERNOON. A SOUTH DUNEDIN COUNTDOWN HAS RE-OPENED THIS MORNING AFTER BEING PLAGUED BY RATS FOR WEEKS ON END. IN A STATEMENT, WOOLWORTHS SAID IT WAS CONFIDENT THE SITUATION HAD BEEN ADDRESSED AND THANKED CUSTOMERS FOR THEIR PATIENCE FOLLOWING MUTLIPLE DELAYS IN OPENING. THE STORE WAS CLOSED FOR NEARLY THREE WEEKS DUE TO ONGOING RODENT ISSUES. 22 RATS WERE CAPTURED SINCE FEBRUARY 10. THE FEDERATION OF ISLAMIC ASSOCIATIONS SAYS THERE ARE IMPORTANT LESSONS TO BE LEARNT AFTER IT WAS REVEALED THE CHRISTCHURCH MOSQUE TERRORIST HAD PUBLICLY POSTED ABOUT HIS PLANS. RESEARCHERS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF AUCKLAND COMBED THROUGH THOUSANDS OF ONLINE POSTS FINDING A PATTERN OF EXTREMISM AND VIOLENCE. THE POSTS DATED BACK TO A YEAR BEFORE THE MARCH 15 ATTACKS. YES, THERE ARE QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED, BUT IT IS ALSO VALIDATION OF THE ROYAL COMMISSION, BECAUSE IT TALKED IN TERMS OF HAVING A NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY, WHERE ACADEMIA, CIVIL SOCIETY, A MISSIONARY OF GOVERNMENT, POLITICIANS, SIT TOGETHER AND HAVE EVIDENCE-BASED PRIORITISATION OF NATIONAL SECURITY. THAT IS WHAT WAS MISSING. WE HOPE THEY FOCUS ON THESE TWO KEY AREAS. NOT ONLY WERE THE POSTS NOT DETECTED PRIOR TO THE ATTACKS, THEY WERE ALSO MISSED DURING THE ROYAL COMMISSION OF INQUIRY. ISRAEL AND HAMAS HAVE BOTH POURED COLD WATER ON HOPES A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA COULD BE IN PLACE BY NEXT WEEK. RUMOURS OF A NEW PAUSE IN FIGHTING HAVE BEEN CIRCULATING FOR DAYS, AND U.S. PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SAID HE WAS HOPEFUL A DEAL WOULD BE SIGNED BY MONDAY. BUT BOTH SIDES HAVE SINCE RESPONDED THAT SUCH HOPES ARE PREMATURE, AND THERE ARE STILL STICKING POINTS IN THE DRAFT AGREEMENT. THE DEAL IS WIDELY EXPECTED TO BE A PAUSE IN VIOLENCE FOR THE ISLAMIC HOLY MONTH OF RAMADAN, WHICH STARTS IN A FORTNIGHT. TO SPORT, AND AHEAD OF THE FIRST TEST IN WELLINGTON, BLACKCAPS COACH GARY STEAD ISN'T FAZED BY THE ONE-SIDED HISTORY BETWEEN HIS TEAM AND AUSTRALIA. IT'S BEEN 31 YEARS SINCE NEW ZEALAND WON A SERIES AGAINST THEIR TRANS-TASMAN RIVALS ON HOME SOIL. WE DON'T PLAY AUSTRALIA THAT OFTEN, WHICH IS STRANGE, CONSIDERING THEY'RE JUST ACROSS THE TASMAN THERE, BUT, LOOK, THEY ALWAYS SET THE BENCHMARK, AND I THINK ARE CURRENT WORLD TEST CHAMPIONS, AND THEY ARE THAT FOR A REASON. THEY'RE A VERY GOOD SIDE. BUT THAT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY, AND THAT'S FOR US TO GO OUT AND, I GUESS, SHOW OUR WARES, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CHALLENGE THAT IS AHEAD. THE TEST IS SOLD OUT, BUT YOU CAN CATCH EVERY BALL LIVE AND FREE ON TVNZ+ STARTING TOMORROW. IT'S WIN OR GO HOME FOR THE BREAKERS TONIGHT AS THEY PREPARE FOR THEIR AUSTRALIAN NBL POST SEASON ELIMINATOR AGAINST THE SYDNEY KINGS. IT'S A REMATCH OF LAST YEAR'S GRAND FINAL WON BY THE KINGS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE BREAKERS ARE USING IT AS MOTIVATION TO WIN. HOWEVER WE WOULD FACE I WOULD WANT TO BEAT THE LIVING YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF THEM. THAT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS THE MBL OR ANYTHING. THE FACT THAT WE LOST GAME FIVE OF THE FINALS OVER THERE GIVE THIS EXTRA MOTIVATION, NO IT DOESN'T. WE ARE CHASING SOMETHING THAT IS RELEVANT ONLY TO THIS YEAR, AND THE ONLY THING THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE PAST AS THE LESSONS LEARNED. TIP OFF IS AT 9.30 TONIGHT. MOANA PASIFIKA'S JUNIOR SIDE HAVE STARTED THE INAUGURAL OCEANIA RUGBY UNDER-20s CHALLENGE, BEATING MANU SAMOA 27-20. MOANA PASIFIKA BUILDING MOMENTUM IN THE FIRST HALF, SAMOA UNABLE TO CATCH THEM IN THE SECOND. ...GOOD HANDS, SALALAH. SALALAH, OUT WIDE IN A LOT OF SPACE AND HE'S GOING OVER. THE BIG LOCK FROM MOANA PASIFIKA SCORES THEIR THIRD TRY. THE NEW COMPETITION AIMS TO DEVELOP PACIFIC TALENT FOR MOANA PASIFIKA AND THE FIJIAN DRUA SUPER RUGBY FRANCHISES. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` THE HEAVY RAIN HAS CLEARED HERE. A MAINLY FINE DAY WITH THE HIGH CLOUD ABOUT. SUNSHINE IN THE AFTERNOON FOR KAITAIA, REACHING A HIGH OF 24. AUCKLAND, 24 DEGREES. FURTHER SOUTH ` SIMILAR HERE. YOU CAN EXPECT A FINE DAY, SOME HIGH CLOUD ABOUT, WITH BLUE SKIES FOR SOME OF YOU. 26 THE HIGH FOR WHAKATANE. TO THE EAST COAST ` IT'S A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY HERE. SHOWERS DEVELOPING FOR YOUR AFTERNOON, TURNING HEAVY FOR SOME. MASTERTON, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 22. OVER TO THE WEST ` HIGH CLOUD CLEARING AND BECOMING FINE FOR SOME OF YOU, WITH THE ODD SHOWER FROM PALMERSTON NORTH THROUGH TO WELLINGTON. ARRIVING IN WELLY, IT'S WINDY, OF COURSE, WITH A HIGH OF 18. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU ` HIGH CLOUD WITH DRIZZLE FOR NELSON THROUGH TO KAIKOURA TODAY, BUT BLUE SKIES FOR YOU ON THE WEST COAST, REACHING A HIGH OF 21 FOR ALL OF YOU. HEADING SOUTH ` IT'S A CLOUDY DAY DOWN HERE. SOME MORNING DIRZZLE GRADUALLY CLEARING TO HIGH CLOUD FOR YOUR AFTERNOON. 17 THE HIGH IN OAMARU TODAY. CHRISTCHURCH, A HIGH OF 20. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` CLOUD WITH SOME SHOWERS THIS MORNING, CLEARING TO A FINE AFTERNOON OF HIGH CLOUD, WITH THE SUN COMING THROUGH FOR SOME OF YOU. STEWART ISLAND, YOU'LL REACH A HIGH OF 15 TODAY. THANKS, CHRIS. TIME FOR A LOOK AT HOLLYWOOD NEWS NOW, AND THE QUESTION ON EVERYONE'S LIPS IS ` CAN WE GET THROUGH A SEGMENT WITHOUT MENTIONING TAYLOR SWIFT? ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT. HELLO, CAROL RAMOS. HOW ARE YOU GOING? GOOD MORNING. OF COURSE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT TRAVIS. AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT TAYLOR. AND SHE WAS IN YOUR CORNER OF THE WORLD UP UNTIL I GUESS YESTERDAY. HER DAD GOT INTO AN ALTERCATION WITH A PHOTOGRAPHER. TRAVIS WAS THERE VISITING HER, WENT TO 1 OF THE SHOWS IN SYDNEY. APPARENTLY HE FLEW BACK AND STARTED PARTYING WITH SOME OTHER WOMEN AND SOME FRIENDS IN LAS VEGAS. OF COURSE, IT WAS ALL CAPTURED ON VIDEO. THE QUESTION ARISES ` IS THIS ONCE AGAIN FOR REAL? IS THIS A ROMANCE? IS THIS SOMETHING BEING USED TO BOLSTER HER CAREER? IT SEEMS A LITTLE ODD. AND THEN WE GET ROBERT CRAFT, WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE FOOTBALL TEAM FOR THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS SAYING I KNOW SHE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER IF SHE HAD GONE WITH SOME OF THE PATRIOTS PLAYERS, PERHAPS TOM BRADY OR EVEN A RETIRED PLAYER, ROB GRONKOWSKI. THEY GOT A HUGE BOOST FROM TAYLOR GOING TO ALL OF THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GAMES. BUT EVEN THEY ARE STARTING TO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN. IT WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY OUT, BUT FOR NOW, THE SWIFTIES ARE ALL IN. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RING ON JENNIFER. SHE WAS SMOKING HOT AT THE AWARDS OVER THE WEEKEND. NOT ONLY WAS SHE SUPPORTING A RING; SHE WAS SPORTING A NEW HAIRDO, WHICH IS KIND OF A MODIFIED RACHEL CUT FROM THE 1990S. IF YOU ARE DOING A LITTLE INVESTIGATION HERE, IF SHE IS ENGAGED, IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT, BECAUSE SHE IS VERY PRIVATE. BUT MAYBE SHE WAS SENDING A MESSAGE TO BRAD PITT, BECAUSE WE JUST FOUND OUT IN THE LAST FEW DAYS THAT BRAD HAS MOVED IN WITH HIS NEW GIRLFRIEND, 30 YEARS HIS JUNIOR, HIS NAME IS INES, SOMEBODY THAT ANGELINA JOLIE DID NOT WANT TO MEET WITH OR HAVE HER MEET THE KIDS. MAYBE JEN AND HER OWN WAY AS SAYING, MAYBE YOU MOVED IN WITH YOUR YOUNG, HOT GIRLFRIEND, AND I AM 55 AND I STILL LOOK GREAT. MAYBE I HAVE A BOYFRIEND. DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BOYFRIEND? IN THIS TOWN, A SECRET IS REALLY HARD TO KEEP, AND NO MATTER WHO YOU TALK TO, THEY HAD NOT SEEN HER WITH ANYBODY. SHE IS VERY PRIVATE, AND SHE HAS A PLACE IN MALIBU, SHE DOES TEND TO HANG OUT WITH HER CELEBRITY FRIENDS. YOU DO NOT SEE HER OUT AND ABOUT. YOU DO NOT SEE HER PHOTOGRAPHED A LOT BY THE PAPARAZZI. MAYBE THERE IS SOMEONE. WE WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED, BUT FOR NOW, THAT IS THE BIG SECRET. MAYBE IT IS ALSO A WAY TO GET HER BACK ON THE NEWS AND GET HER OUT THERE AGAIN. SHE IS VERY POPULAR AND SHE IS PROMOTING THINGS. IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF REASONS, BUT THE SECRET FOR NOW IF THERE IS A BOYFRIEND REMAINS TIGHTLIPPED. ALWAYS GOOD TO TALK TO YOU. ONE OF MY FAVOURITE SEGMENTS IN THE SHOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU KEEP DIGGING FOR US. CATCH UP WITH YOU SOON. YOU JUST LOVE GOSSIP. OH MY GOSH. WHO DOESN'T. I LOVE GOSSIP. IT IS THE BEST. TAKE THAT, BRAD PITT. LETTING HER GO. I AM GUTTED. BRAD PITT IS LIKE, HOW DID I GET DRAGGED INTO THIS? SHE HAS JUST MADE UP A RUMOUR. I AM SURE BRAD PITT DID NOT GIVE A FLYING... WHAT JENNIFER WAS DOING. YOU DO NOT KNOW, CHRIS. NO ONE KNOWS. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT. CAROL KNOWS. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT KIND OF A RING IT WAS. DO NOT RAIN ON MY JUICY GOSSIP PARADE. E WHAI AKE NEI ` NOT EVERYONE'S UP FOR A LIFE AT SEA AND THAT MEANS THERE'S PLENTY OF TRAINING EVEN FOR THOSE ON SUPERYACHTS. WE'VE SENT OUT RESIDENT CAPTAIN TESSA PARKER TO INSPECT THE DECKS. MORENA, TESS. RIGHT INTO IT. WHILE YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE STUDIO, I HAVE BEEN SCRUBBING THIS BOAT FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. DO I REALLY HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO LIVE LIFE WORKING ON THE SUPER YACHTS? FIND OUT AFTER THE BREAK. I WILL GET PUT TO THE TEST. (CHATTER, LAUGHTER) - ALL: Hooray! - Hip hip! - Hooray! - Hip hip! - Hooray! - Happy birthday, mate. - It's your bowel screening test. I've done mine. - WOMEN: Me too! - And it's free! Uso, you've got this! - # There's a screening here tonight. # Pull the stick from the test. Put it in the poo. # Just follow the pictures. It's easy to do. - Koro! You can 'poo' it! - # Don't delay or procrastinate. # Put it in the post. Send it away. # Early detection can save the day. (ALL CHEER) # There's a screening # here tonight. # - ALL: Oh yeah! # SALE AND AWAY, SWEET SISTER. # SAIL AWAY ACROSS THE SEA. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. SCRUBBING THE DECK, FOLDING THE PERFECT BEDSHEET, TOLERATING RICH SNOBBY GUESTS ` THIS IS THE LIFE OF LUXURY YACHT STAFF AROUND THE WORLD. BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO LIVE LIFE AT SEA, INCLUDING REPORTER TESSA PARKER, SO WE'RE PUTTING HER TO THE TEST AT A NEW SUPERYACHT TRAINING ACADEMY. MORNING, TESS. GOOD MORNING. I HAVE GOT MY UNIFORM ON. I AM LIVING MY BEST TO BELOW DECK LIFESTYLE RIGHT NOW. WELCOME TO THE WW YACHT HERE IN THE VIADUCT. I HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME TRAINING TO SEE IF I CAN LIVE LIFE ON THE SUPER YACHTS. IT IS NOT JUST WEARING UNIFORMS THAT ARE CUTE AND HANGING OUT IN LUXURY. IT IS A BIT OF HARD WORK. I AM JOINED BY THE TRAINING GIRLS. WHAT IS LIFE AS A STEWARDESS ON THE SEA? THERE IS DEFINITELY A LOT OF REWARDS. IT IS AN AWESOME INDUSTRY TO GET INTO. DEFINITELY HARD WORK, THOUGH. YOU HAVE LONG HOURS. YOU ARE ON YOUR FEET ALL OF THE TIME. YOU GOT TO BE A TEAM PLAYER. THERE IS DEFINITELY A LOT OF PERKS. IN THAT SENSE, WHY DID YOU GUYS START A TRAINING ACADEMY FOR IT? WE SET UP THE ACADEMY WITH NEW ZEALAND YACHT CREW AND MINE. WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM THE BEST POSSIBLE SHOT TO HEAD OVERSEAS AND CONFIDENTLY START THEIR CAREERS AND ALSO OUR REPUTATION AS KIWIS IN THE INDUSTRY IS JUST AWESOME. WE JUST WANT TO PRESERVE THAT AS WELL. SOUNDS GOOD. I WAS SAYING TO YOU GUYS, I AM ABOUT TO HEAD OUT INTO THE WORLD. YOU ARE HEADING OVERSEAS. I KINDA FEEL LIKE THIS COULD BE MY NEW CAREER SWITCH. I AM REALLY LIKING THIS UNIFORM. WE ARE GOING TO PUT TESSA TO THE TEST. LET'S GO OUTSIDE. IT IS A GORGEOUS MORNING TO BE ON A SUPERYACHT. I WILL GET YOU TO STAND OVER HERE. WE HAVE A LOVELY STEWARDESS AND THE CAPTAIN. BASICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO DO A BIT OF A ROLE-PLAY. WE HAVE SOME LAST-MINUTE GUESTS ARRIVING, WHICH ARE GOING TO BE BEN AND COURTNEY. WELCOME ABOARD, GUYS. COME AND TAKE A SEAT. IS THIS THE RIGHT THING? THIS IS LOOKING GOOD. BASICALLY, WE ARE GOING TO DO A BIT OF A CHALLENGE. WE HAVE AN EXPERIENCED CHIEF STEWARDESS HERE, AND WE WILL RUN TESSA PRESENTING THE TABLE, POPPING SOME CHAMPAGNE AND SERVING IT TO THE GUESTS. WE WILL TRY AND DO AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. LET'S GO. ALL RIGHT. TWO GORGEOUS PLACEMENTS. AND SHE HAS GOT THE PLATE DOWN. AND THE NAPKIN. WE ARE FLICKING A NAPKIN. OH GOSH. ANNA: YOU SEEM TO BE THROWING STUFF ON THE TABLE A BIT. YOUR PLACEMENT LOOKS A BIT HAPHAZARD. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, ANNA. A BIT MORE GRACE PERHAPS. YOU DO NOT GET THIS AT MY DINNER TABLE. TWO FORKS AND TWO KNIVES. FROM THE OUTSIDE IN. JENNY: I WANT YOU OPENING UP THE BOTTLE. OH NO. I FORGOT ABOUT THE GLASSES. WHY ARE THERE TOO? I FEEL LIKE IT WILL BE THAT WAY. CHAMPAGNE. CHRIS: DON'T POINT THAT THE CAMERA. JENNY-MAY: OR AT THE GUESTS. I HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. FAMOUS LAST WORDS. CHEERS. I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO TAKE A SWIG OF THEM. WHAT DO YOU RECKON? DO YOU THINK I COULD LIVE LIFE AT SEA? I THINK YOU HAVE GOT WHAT IT TAKES. I REALLY DO. A GO. WOWZER. MAYBE SOME WORK TO DO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON BOARD. CHEERS, AND WHO KNOWS? THIS COULD BE MY NEXT CAREER. ANNA: DON'T DRINK IT YOURSELF. YOUR GUEST IS WAITING, TESS. WELL DONE, TESS. SO GOOD. E HAERE AKE NEI ` THE KIWI SINGER STILL ON A BUZZ FROM SINGING WITH THE JONAS BROTHERS. PAIGE JOINS US TO RECAP HER MAGICAL NIGHT. (UPBEAT MUSIC) AFTER CAMPAIGNING ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM TIKTOK, OUR NEXT GUEST FINALLY GOT THE OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME. TAKE A LOOK. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PEOPLE WELCOME NEW ZEALAND'S OWN, PAIGE. (CROWD CHEERS) # THIS IS REAL. THIS IS ME. # I'M EXACTLY WHERE I'M SUPPOSED TO BE. # GONNA LET THE LIGHT SHINE ON ME. # NOW I'VE FOUND WHO I AM # THERE'S NO WAY... # KIWI SINGER AND SUPERSTAR PAIGE HOPPED ON STAGE TO JOIN THE JONAS BROTHERS LAST NIGHT AT THEIR AUCKLAND SHOW AFTER JOE, NICK AND KEVIN PERSONALLY INVITED HER FOR A DUET. TO TELL US HOW THIS ALL CAME ABOUT, SHE JOINS US NOW. YOU ARE PROBABLY WONDERING ` ARE YOU ARE IN THE SAME CLOSE? HAVE YOU HAD ANY SLEEP? YOU HAVE CALLED ME OUT. I AM WEARING THE SAME OUTFIT. I AM JUST TIRED, WHANAU. SHE NEEDS TO GO TO BED. WAS IT THAT GOOD THAT YOU HAVE NOT HAD ANY SLEEP? HONESTLY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE REALLY VISUALISED SINCE I WAS LEARNING TO DO MUSIC AND STUFF. WHEN YOU SEE IT APPEAR IN FRONT OF YOU, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT IS A LOT TO TAKE HIM. I STILL HAVEN'T REALLY. TALK ME THROUGH THAT MOMENT ` WE SAW YOU WALK UP THE STEPS AND ONTO THE STAGE. WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND? NOTHING. I WAS LIKE, I HAVE TO BE READY NOW. I HAVE TO FEEL THE FEAR AND GO FOR IT. I JUST HAVE TO DO IT. I HAVE TO TRY AND BE ON AUTOPILOT AND NOT THINK ABOUT IT. I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING, THAT IS WHEN IT STARTS TO GET A LITTLE BIT OVERWHELMING, AND THAT IS WHEN BAD THINGS HAPPEN. I WAS LIKE, I HAVE TO ALLOW MYSELF TO ENJOY IT AND BE EXCITED RATHER THAN BE NERVOUS AND STUFF. AS AN ARTIST, I HAVE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR SIX YEARS, AND YOU WORK SO HARD FOR SO LONG THAT MOMENTS LIKE THIS ARE THE ONES THAT OTHER REWARD. THIS IS ME REAPING THE REWARD FOR BEING IN THE TRENCHES. YOU SAFER WORKING HARD TO GET TO THAT MOMENT. I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE TELLING ME THAT YOUR PARTNER LUKE AND YOUR MUM AND DAD HAD A BIG REACTION. I SAW MY PARENTS, MY FRIENDS, LUKE, MY FAMILY, AND I WAS LIKE, I CANNOT LOOK, BECAUSE THEN IT WILL BE CLEAR TO ME WHAT IS HAPPENING, AND I DO NOT NEED TO KNOW YET. I DON'T NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. I JUST HAVE TO DO IT. BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA, I THINK PEOPLE HAVE EXPECTED ME TO SHOW UP. EVERYONE HAS GOTTEN BEHIND ME, AND I HAVE GOT TO DO MY DUTY FOR NEW ZEALAND. TELL ME ABOUT MUM'S REACTION. SHE WAS TEARY. I WAS LIKE, I CANNOT LOOK AT YOU, MUM. THEY WERE HAPPY TEARS. YOU ALSO GIFTED ONE OF THE JONAS BROTHERS... I GIFTED THEM ALL A FISHHOOK GREENSTONE. STRENGTH, SAFE TRAVEL OVER WATER, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD REPRESENTATION. ALSO BEING MAORI AND BEING ON AN INTERNATIONAL STAGE, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REPRESENT US, BECAUSE WE DO NOT GET TO SEE OUR PEOPLE A LOT IN THOSE AREAS. I THINK IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. DID YOU GET TO TALK TO THEM AFTERWARDS OR DURING THAT SESSION THAT YOU HAD WITH THEM? DID YOU SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CHAT? JUST BEFORE. I EXPLAINED TO THEM ABOUT THE COUNTRY AND THEY WILL WENT THROUGH THE SONG AND HOW WE WERE GOING TO DO IT. I AM REALLY GRATEFUL, BECAUSE THEY REALLY TOOK THEIR TIME WITH ME. THEY CARED. I LOVE THAT. IT IS NICE WHEN THEY CARE. IT SHOWS WHAT GREAT MUSICIANS THEY ARE, PICKING A TALENT LIKE YOURSELF AND WANTING TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT YOU. WHAT WERE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THEY ASKED YOU? THEY WERE KIND OF JUST TELLING ME ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE ONLY FOR ABOUT A DAY. THEY WENT AND PLAYED GOLF AND STUFF. I REALLY DO NOT REMEMBER A LOT. I HAVE GOT TO SIT HERE AND THINK ABOUT IT. I WILL LET YOU GOING GET SOME SLEEP. YOU PROBABLY DO NEED IT AFTER SUCH A LONG NIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS AND WELL DONE. GREAT TO HAVE YOU COME IN. SO PROUD OF YOU. NO DOUBT YOUR MUM WOULD HAVE BEEN BURSTING WITH PRIDE WHEN SHE WAS WATCHING YOU LAST NIGHT. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. COME BACK TOMORROW. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. CAPTIONS BY COURTNEY SOLE, JULIE TAYLOR AND BILLY GARRATT-JOHN. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR.