Previously on When We Rise ` I lost my lover, I lost my job, I lost my home, and hell yeah, I started using! I need help! I need hands laid on me, y'all. I'm not gonna sit around and watch you screw up your life! You've screwed it up already. I mean, two lesbian moms, pretending like this is normal, like you're some sort of married couple! What's it like to be part of the first generation in this country that has no purpose? And what are you gonna do about it? CLEVE: Aids opened many gay and lesbian people's eyes to the need for marriage equality. But others had been fighting for it long before that, well before George W Bush ushered in bans on gay marriage in another 18 states. It was Mayor Newsom in San Francisco who surprised the world and began marrying gay couples here in California. Those marriages were ultimately invalidated. But then our state supreme court weighed in. Today's four-to-three ruling by the California Supreme Court is clear and it is historic. Gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to marry in California. CLEVE: So for a few months, joy was palpable. Gay and lesbian couples felt almost equal, almost whole in the eyes of our country. But the forces of bigotry weren't done with us. People have a right to marry. They don't have a right to redefine marriage for the entire state of California or the entire country. MAN: The battle has come down to Proposition 8 which, if passed, will outlaw same-sex marriage. CLEVE: Prop 8 landed on the same ballot as the historic election of Barack Obama. ...there's anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, - tonight is your answer. - (CHEERING) TV: Now we see celebrations in the Castro area in San Francisco. Those might be the opponents of Prop 8, a valid initiative to roll back the right to marry. It's looking mathematically difficult for them to win. CLEVE: We celebrated with the world the election of the first African American president. But within hours, it became clear the arc of history might not be so kind to us. DIANE: Stay calm. It's gonna be a long night. OK. Roma. Ivory Coast still up doing shots for Obama? Yeah, yeah, they waited till 4.30 to hear his speech. Listen, Jandro just beeped through. He's taking Annie to the hospital. Oh my God. Mm-hm. We better go. Uh, I'll meet you there. What? I wanna take a shower and... You've had a baby; it takes a while. Go. OK, all right. Go be with your daughter. Don't miss this. Mwah! Mr Mayor, what you did when you started issuing licences in City Hall, because of all that, 18,000 people got married who never thought it possible. But now that dream is likely dead for everyone else moving forward. TV: ...almost impossible for Proposition 8 to be defeated. With 70% reporting, Prop 8 is still ahead by 52% to 48%. How we doing? What? Oh, uh, still 52% yes. 85% of Los Angeles is in. Chad, we brought you into this campaign so late. And the Mormons, Maggie Gallagher's cronies, we were up against millions of dollars of hate. But imagine the message this is sending to kids that are wakin' up tomorrow, the kids in my hometown, Arkansas, that not only are you second class but there is no safe harbour, not even in California. And that` SOFTLY: It's just... It's my fault. We will not stop fighting. We will not stop until Proposition 8 is dead, until we have civil rights for all. This might not be over any time soon, but... They put this stage up to keep us quiet in our ghetto. We should be angry. We should be protesting. Where would we march? The straight area. Up to Sunset Boulevard. Yeah. 9pm we march away from this stage. Let's do it. Spread the word. Listen, people, at 9 o'clock we're gonna turn around and we're gonna take this out on the streets. Once baptised, you must not go back to your old ways. Do not enter into this promise lightly. This place and your prayers saved my life. The rest I'll just have to learn to live without. Is this the way to the birthing centre? Are you a family member? My partner, Diane Jones, her daughter's having a baby. Your partner? My domestic partner. Can you just tell me the way? I'm so sorry, I have to call up and get permission for you to be with them. Gimme that. (COMMOTION ON TV) MAN: Prop 8 has passed, and it has triggered massive demonstrations that started in West Hollywood and have spread across Southern California. I have never felt such a sense of... of being less of a person. (SIRENS WAIL, PEOPLE CHANT) ALL CHANT: ...out of the closets and into the streets. (SIRENS, CHANTING CONTINUE ON TV) (BABY CRIES, PEOPLE COO) Hello, sweet Justice. I hope she likes her name. These are Daddy's parents. (BABY CRIES, LAUGHTER) This is your Grandma Diane. Hi, Justice. (KISSES) Oh, she smells so good. Roma. (BABY FUSSES) This is your Grandma Roma. Oh! (CHUCKLES) We are blessed to have a forgiving God. And we ask you to forgive us of all we have done that was not pleasing in your sight. (EXHALES) Copyright Able 2017 What am I supposed to do, OK? What am I supposed to do? OK? She's gonna die on me. I'm so sorry. What's going on? Roma, you know Victor. He lives down the road from us. They've been here all night, and his wife's been in my ER most of the last month. Are you getting the help you need? We'd like to. We're trying to. My job has no insurance; my wife can't work any more. There's only so much we can do in the ER. Talk to Roma. (SNIFFLES) The rich people come here sick, OK, they get better and they go home. We come in here sick, OK, and we die. Come on, you're part of the Health Commission. She has cancer. If she had Aids, you would help her, right? Here the rich live, the gays live, and we die. Victor, listen, I'm the biggest advocate you have on that commission. How does that matter if you can't`? Because I haven't quit. Because I haven't quit. Victor. (SOLEMN MUSIC) It's OK. These groups, like, join the impact. They're using social media to replicate the marches in San Diego, Chicago, Boston. We need to march somewhere where they don't already agree with us. Like where? Fresno. It's where I'm raising my kids. It's where we lost by a mile. There's gay families there. I know. I campaigned there against Prop 6 before you were even born. But who is gonna drive to Fresno? That's why we need you. You give the action legitimacy. Look, I know this started as a marriage fight, but how does that help LGBT people who are losing their jobs and homes across this country, hm? I have a call later with some very influential people in DC about something much bigger ` a new legislative strategy to get federal LGBT protections. It's a civil rights act. Those suits in DC have had their entire careers to pass anything, anything for the protection our people, much less a civil rights act. The only thing that they have managed to pass is DOMA, the Defence of Marriage Act. That's why David is calling for a march on Washington, to get those people off their asses. Even Congressman Barney Frank has come out against a march on Washington, and he is openly gay. Yeah, mm-hm, and he says that the only pressure we'll put on DC is on the grass. These kids, this new energy, they could crack DC wide open. Why would you put a lid on that? What I think is that everything has changed, OK, since this new energy because of Prop 8. We have to give Congress a shot. But we need your grass-roots efforts behind us. I'm not waiting for Congress. I want to change Congress. It was, um, an honour to meet you, Mr Jones. It was, um,... informative. (DOOR CLOSES) WOMAN: So many black people came to believe that it was acceptable to express homophobia. And why is that? In 1706, colonies passed acts denying that baptism made the slaves equal to whites. Excuse me, sir. That's ma,am to you. And just as child abuse passes from one generation to the next, so does spiritual abuse,... - (CONGREGATION AGREES) - ...turning the oppressed into an oppressor, the educated over the under-educated, men over women. And so just as the baptism of the slave began with the proclamation that they were not to ask for their freedom, baptisms of gay and lesbians today begin with the call for one to disavow oneself from love - and to beg forgiveness. - (CONGREGATION ASSENTS) But we are God's children and he loves us as we are, as he made us. We accept... They're renting our space once a week to cover bills, but we aren't to attend their services. I hope after they go, you might help us cleanse the chapel. This isn't disinfectant. PREACHER: Say it again, sister. Blessed water. That's right, we are created in God's own image. If God is love and we are created in God's own image, what are we but love itself? Commissioner Guy, if they have HIV we provide for their care already. And for any other issues, if they go to the ER, we already foot that bill. Well, let's hear from the ER. Uh, Diane. Dr Katz, you know better than anyone that we can patch them up in the ER, but we can't do anything about their overall health, so they're right back again every month. We pay for that revolving door. So why not use that wasted money to ensure a proper health care for all of our neighbours, regardless of their gender or their race or their income? Why not get 'em healthy? OK, Commissioner Guy` Why not get 'em back to work? Back to paying taxes? I mean, come on. Commissioner Guy! I've advocated for citywide health care well before you got here. Right now it's not a political reality. The mayor has his hands full with marriage equality. So we want our neighbours to have our backs on marriage equality but we won't protect their families? Not what` You come from a finance family. Yes. I direct my words at you not because I think you don't get it but because I know you can build this. SOFTLY: What's the next thing? Nurse Week observance. Fine, let's start. LOUDLY: OK, moving in. So, allow me a moment of personal privilege to say that I am not someone who will sit on my hands. I will go around all of you. (GENTLE MUSIC) CLEVE: When I first tried to join the movement, I was told to cut my hair to reassure the Democratic Party. But when I met Harvey, he told me to shake them all up, to keep them all on their toes. And the thing is this generation has grown up with Ellen and Will and Grace telling them everything is fine. They never felt that sting of discrimination like we did. But now that they have, they've reacted with an anger that stems from self-respect. Why in God's name would we put a lid on that? (SIGHS) Oh, Gilbert. You think we've got one more in us? You better. I was up all night sewing this damn thing. (CHUCKLES) Cleve Jones. (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) Whoo! (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE CONTINUE) Every compromise, every delay undermines our humanity. We must seek nothing less than full equality in all matters governed by civil law in all 50 states. - (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) - From Alaska to Florida, from Maine to Hawaii, we must rise up and take our anger and our love and our determination to Washington and demand full equality now. The time is now! (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 9 People say leave, but this is where my family can help us. They say, 'Work more hours,' but I work 60 hours a week. And if I leave, someone else must do my job. Will you work them until their family dies too? Is that San Francisco? Help my family live... in this city, our home. Thank you, Victor, for your public comments on citywide universal health care. Next is public works. (COOS) She's so alert. We like our studio apartment. It's just with Justice and the fact that we're trying to finish college and teach makes it tougher. The fact that the landlord raised our rent thanks to the tech invasion makes it impossible. Oh, you hear that, Justice? We're losing our city to the techies! We wanna raise Justice near you guys, so we were wondering if we could move back in. To this house? Or the downstairs apartment. Yeah. You head off to work in Africa again, we'd be here to help Roma. You mean...? Wow. We all have been getting along so well now that we're not actually living together. Are you sure you wanna jeopardise that peace? (CELL PHONE BUZZES) Oh, it's you. Here, I got her. Oh, hi, Mitch. What did you hear from the health commissioners? It's been wonderful having you here, but we have a few members that have really objected. We're just gonna have to ask you to find a better home for yourselves. So what are they objecting to? Uh... I'm just sorry it's not working out. What's the matter? (SIGHS) Just... They need to find themselves a more suitable home. The Lord will provide for us in a more holy manner. It's fine, Ken. (SOLEMN MUSIC) That was Dr Katz. Health Commission says they'll help if I can show them a winning path. Wow, that's movement. It's big. We'll need the support of the supervisors, so what do you think, Annie, you think your dad'll help? Are you sure you wanna jeopardise your peace with a fight that big? She's got you there. (EXHALES) Fair enough. You know, you can't always choose your fight, but you have to go with love and defend your ground, and this is our ground ` this home and San Francisco ` and these are my people in this room... and here in this city, so... yes, w-we do have to make both work. So I'll help you pack. Will you bring your dad? They tried to lie to us and tell us that people in the heartland, in Iowa, are OK with gay marriage. The people of Iowa, for the first time in their history, said no to three judges who voted, invented, found a right to gay marriage. Hey. Welcome home. Well, it is about lies ` it's about exposing hers. But, hey, Julian Bond told me this morning he's going to speak at the march, which is fantastic. None of you have any idea who that is, do you? God. Yeah, he's the head of the NAACP. It's a big deal. But all of these gay groups and civil liberties groups have come out against our little march in Washington. They think it's a waste of money and there won't be enough good hotel rooms. Not kidding. And they won't be able to control the messaging. We don't want it controlled. We want it to worry people who can do something about it. And we don't need any entertainment crap, we just need people ` thousands of people. But it's not a rock concert, so if you need inspiration look to Bayard Rustin and his march on Washington. They gave the world I Have A Dream without Fleetwood Mac. Is Fleetwood Mac still a thing? We need a big draw. I'll see your Julian Bond and raise you... Lady Gaga. What's a Lady Gaga? New artist, big gay following. If she performs, there'll be a big crowd. No. No music acts, OK? Fine. Then we may as well cancel it. Dude, come on. Hey, this is what it feels like to do something new, OK? It's lonely and it's tough, and nobody believes in you till after you've succeeded. You need to learn that. I'm going back on the road again tomorrow. Because old queens go to gay fundraisers all summer long. So you get your generation and I will get mine, and we leapfrog these supposed LGBT leaders before they miss this moment. Never quote me on this, but losing Prop 8 could be the best thing that ever happened ` if we pull this off. Do you do a speaking tour now? What do you mean? You're not getting any younger. You may be all cute and flexible and everything, but I was a twink once too, you know, kind of the fiercest that the Castro ever saw. And I led more marches and screwed more men than you will ever lead or screw in your life. And yes, my hair might be grey and my face might be worn, but I have more energy in this ravaged body than any of you have in your skinny little limbs combined ` and that includes you lesbians. So you wanna outmarch me? You wanna outbitch me? Come on, who's first? Look, clear moments of opportunity like this are rare, OK? Twice I've seen them ripped away ` by an assassin's bullet and by a plague. We cannot let this opportunity slip away too. Not again. 9 Roma, can you give me a hand? Yeah, sure. So, uh, as the president of the board of supervisors, I'm gonna need you to make a statement in favour of city-wide health care. Oh, come on, Roma, this is family time. Now, come on, keep movin'. This is heavy. You got your end? Yeah. (THUD!) We don't have to do it all at once. We can start with poor people. Oh, because everybody loves poor people. We don't even have the union's support on this. I'll talk to the unions. Will you make a statement? Fine. Good luck with the unions. Give me that. (SIREN WAILS) (GENTLE ACOUSTIC GUITAR) (COUGHING) (INDISTINCT CHATTER) Welcome to the City of Refuge. Welcome home. NEWSREADER: Thousands are expected to take part this morning in a march for gay and lesbian rights. Today they plan to march through the streets of Washington, ending up here at the Capitol, where they are going to demand quicker action from the President. 15 minutes. 15 minutes until the greatest humiliation of my life. Oh, breathe, girl. They're coming, they're coming. They're just all on gay time. (HOPEFUL MUSIC) Shut up and open your banner. Come on, can I get some hands over here? Let's just get it out in the street. Let's get it in the street. OK, OK. Yeah, let's spread it out. (PEOPLE CLAMOUR, CHEER) We ready? Let's march! Nearly nine months into his term, President Barack Obama today was a target of a huge demonstration in Washington. CROWD: Equality! (LOUDSPEAKER) CLEVE: When do we want it? Now! What do we want? Equality! The President, citing all that he faces now, appealing for more time to deliver on the promises he made. But today marchers weren't accepting any excuses. Homophobia is like racism in that it seeks to dehumanise a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and their personhood. They say that this country is equal, but it is not equal if it's sometimes. Obama, are you listening?! (CROWD CHEERS) We have existed in every time and culture and land, and we are here today to say we are equal! We are equal in our ability to form and sustain loving relationships, equal in our ability to parent, foster-parent and adopt, equal in our ability to defend our country, and we are most certainly equal in the eyes of God. And soon we will be equal under the laws of this land, because a free and equal people do not tolerate the prioritisation of their rights. They do not accept compromise. They do not accept delays! No more compromise! No more delays! We are equal! We are equal! We are equal! (CHEERING) (DOOR OPENS) Hi. Hi. Ted Olson. Sit, sit. Yes. How can I help you? I heard a rumour` Oh, hearsay won't get you far here. (CHUCKLES) It was at a brunch in Beverly Hills. I met a woman who knew you and suggest that, well, given your history with working with Conservative administrations that we may be surprised to hear where you stand on the issue of marriage equality. You know how wives gossip at those brunches in Beverly Hills. Well, wives aren't really a considerable part of my world. (LAUGHS) Sir, a few LGBT leaders are calling for federal equality. In the face of defeat. Bold. Well, I've already been asked to join a potential case involving Proposition 8 on the traditional marriage side. But if you wanna know my own core beliefs, not rumours, there is nothing more traditional or conservative that marriage. And I can't get my head around why we would deny that to anyone. The question is ` can you make a legal argument? Because that's the only way to win at the Supreme Court. And Conservative or not, I'm about the most experienced lawyer there is at that court. And let's not kid ourselves. You're here because you know the Supreme Court is the only path you have left to put an end to Prop 8 for a generation. 9 CLEVE: You can't wage a war from Palm Springs. So for the second time in my life, I packed up the few things I owned and moved back. Back to San Francisco. Oh, get in line, honey. (GENTLE PIANO MUSIC) I did have an apartment lined up. But somewhere between Palm Springs and here the landlord raised the rent through the roof. Well, welcome to the tech revolution. You know, there has been more support for federal action since the march. But the people I need are here, so it's back to couch-surfing and looking for a job. You know, the more things change... Or go backwards. Our coalition is fighting with the unions now over health care. It's... Ugh. Well, I still know some of the union folks from the old campaign days. I plan on offering them the privilege of employing me. I'm sure I could strong-arm them into having dinner here, if that was helpful. What? Thought I'd lost all the boys I loved in this city. Oh no, no. Only the good die young. Look! Do it for Grandma, Justice! Oh, isn't she cute. (LAUGHS) You're doing it! (LAUGHTER) We took two years to adopt Max. About four to finalise the adoption with Roxie. You know, we have a unique understanding for what it means to want to build families and have road blocks put up at every turn of the way. While other families are struggling to raise their kids because they can't afford to keep 'em healthy. We have the power to change that. But this kind of coverage means less income for SF General. We lose those jobs, those families get hurt. Where do you take your kids when they get sick? To the ER at General? No, of course not. No, of course not. San Francisco General will adapt and maybe get stronger. Uh... I just don't think we can endorse it. Even the term 'universal health care' ` it's divisive. Can I take your plate? You know, I've spent my whole life fighting for safe homes. A safe home for women in the first building owned and operated solely by women. And then for the gay men when the plague hit and they were abandoned by their families. So why not forget what they've called it in the past and call it what it is ` a home. A medical home for every single San Franciscan. Every single San Franciscan. A medical home? Mm-hm. And when we win, it will have been the gays working with the union boys that made it possible for straights to raise healthy kids here. One struggle, one fight. Right, Cleve? One struggle, one fight. (CELL PHONE ALERT DINGS) (SIGHS) Your baby face hides your political pedigree. What do you want exactly? I'm sure you didn't invite me here just to feed me eggs and compliments. Well, what if we bypass Congress? What if we take Prop 8 to the United States Supreme Court? I'm sorry, who do you think you are to take on such a case? As you know, the name of the game at the Supreme Court is five votes. I assume you think you can get Justice Kennedy. What if you're wrong? If the Supreme Court upholds Proposition 8, if they declare their brand of bigotry is constitutional, your naivete could set us back decades. I want a civil rights act that insists the constitution applies to all people in all matters. And that juice you keep sipping on, that's actually mine. Oh! I'm gonna leave you with the bill. I'm sorry, I... I appreciate your candour. But before you go, there's someone I want you to meet. You might get a kick out of it. You're kidding me. Give it a chance. Hi. Ted Olson. I know who you are. The thing is, Cleve, I don't think this is about winning five-to-four. And it isn't just about winning marriage. This is about winning every single one of those nine justices that we can; this is about equal protection and due process. A Constitution that includes gay people. Won't this destroy your reputation in your all-boys clubs in DC? We're not as different as you'd like to believe. (SCOFFS) I've been in the eye of the storm. And, like you, I believe in something, I do it. I would not be just some hired gun. You know David Boies. Of course. He's the lawyer he beat in Bush v Gore, the case that gave us George W Bush. And thank you for that (!) You're quite welcome. Ted asked David to argue the case with him. (SCOFFS) David agreed. That would be a dream team. Red and blue going beyond the political divide. And so I just drop my legislative strategy, my civil rights act? That could take decades. We likely wouldn't live to see it signed. And I believe the Constitution already says you have every right that every other citizen has. Everyone will be against this. I mean, (CHUCKLES) they'll say it's too soon, it's not our turn. Most Americans are against it. One bad decision by any judge on our way up to the Supreme Court, it could be catastrophic. It's insane. It's radical, yeah. It's radical. 9 Chad, if you'd read our plan, you know there's an agreed-upon 25-year incremental strategy for marriage equality. But your plan was made before Prop 8 passed. It was made before the uprising that followed. The... The world has changed. With the tsunami of money coming at us from Maggie Gallagher and the Mormons, we should be strengthening our defences, not incite them more. We're not trying to leapfrog anybody with this case. But I would ask that you recognise the energy behind this moment and with us help get our truth out. Those are all of the cases we've lost at the hands of Ted Olson. He is our enemy, not our leader. If you move ahead with this, we will release this file to the media. Then, uh... Then you should do it. Someone who's represented all off these conservative cases? It'd move public opinion in places we never even thought possible. Mr Griffin, you've been warned. (DOOR CLOSES) That was, uh, almost the entire gay rights and civil rights leadership of this country. So it's your turn to find support for us now, cos we're gonna need it. Roma, I need you to make a statement in favour of our marriage case. Marriage was constructed to subjugate women. I know, I said the same thing in the '70s when the gay-lib kids took over that wedding cake shop in New York. But you remember Ken? Of course. He got put out on the street because they weren't married when he lost Richard, right? I mean, how many more did we lose because we didn't have the protections of marriage? Or insurance or visitation? That has been such an issue. Where's your new apartment? Cheers. (GLASSES CLINK) In the Castro. Is it expensive? Small. I should be able to pay the rent if I can make this union job permanent. But listen, I have a speech on Saturday, and I will talk about your medical home if you give me a marriage quote. You're barking up the wrong tree. I'd get us all equal by getting rid of marriage for everyone. I've got good news. What's that, hon? I'm pregnant. What?! Oh my God! Congratulations. SOFTLY: This is all mine now. And we've decided to get married and to have a wedding. Really? Mm-hm. I mean, why not save the money for a college fund? Jandro and I have been together for years. Sick of calling him my baby daddy. If I could call him my husband, I wouldn't have to explain everything every time. Mm. Words have meaning, Roma. I never called you Mom, so we always had to explain everything. But now you're Grandma and everyone gets it. The word 'marrying' might mean something too. More than it used to. Words have meaning, Roma. Cheers. (GLASSES CLINK) Congratulations. (SIREN WAILS, HORN HONKS) WOMAN: Get back, all right? MAN: Hit it, right there in the middle. (CRASH! ALARM BLARES) Hey! Run, run! Come on! (GRUNTS) Hey! (BLOWS LAND, GRUNTING) Come on! Come on! (ALARM CONTINUES) So, we've got the unions behind us now. Come on, the mayor can get the votes we need. I just need you to bring him down to the women's building. Roma, it's Annie's wedding day. I mean, girl, give it a rest. ANNIE: He resonates love as he models confidence, balance, integrity. I picked him because I knew that, no matter what, he'd be a great father. Annie faces the world with passion and straightforwardness... (VOICE DIES OUT) You got two options ` jail or church. You come back to us, you come back to help us. We ain't got nothin' to give, all right! Well, at least you know that. Woman wants to know her ministry. What she gotta know first is her wilderness. You know what? Jesus didn't have nothing either, and he still fed all those people with just two little fish. Right? Mm. (LAUGHS) That's it. We could feed people. I mean, we know the ones who are homeless. Well, none of us who be here are Jesus. You don't trust us with your food? We might have to shut down the meal programme for a while. Wait a minute. Wait. Why you in here handing out hope if you ain't got any? You're selling disappointment, and we full up on that. You know what? (BOX CLATTERS) You get the hell outta here. Get out! The Lord says by testing... you can discern the will of God. I need to know if this church is true, if there is a God for people like us. Wanna know what I said to myself when I first saw you? I said, 'That's my test.' Good news. At our church, God gives us 100 new tests every day. I'm a diabetic, sir. I also need pills for depression. And I couldn't get help anywhere. But I knew in your city, if you got HIV, you would get help. It's not like I went out and got it on purpose. But if I didn't have a clean needle or a condom, that's OK. And now I got both. I got HIV, but I also got help so I can finally get better. (KNOCKING) Victor, the mayor has agreed to sign the health-care ordnance. She died. She's gone. What? Hey, guys, go upstairs. What? I` I'm so sorry, Victor, I didn't... No, no, no, no, you just` You don't get it, what it is to have a real family. OK? How could you? People like you, huh? Do me a favour, just get outta here. Just... L-Look, just leave us alone. Just leave us alone, please. Thank you. NEWSREADER: In the Supreme Court case that decided the 2000 presidential election, Ted Olson represented George W Bush and David Boies represented Al Gore. Today the two attorneys joined forces to challenge Proposition 8, the California ballot measure that bans same-sex marriages. So Olsen and Boies are taking it to federal court. Ted Olson and David Boies are representing Paul Katami and Jeff Zarrillo and Kris Perry and Sandy Stier. It does not undermine marriage to extend it to these loving couples; it affirms marriage. Ted, why do this? Do you have a friend or a family member who's gay? We all do. These are our neighbours, our co-workers, our teachers, our friends, our families. And whatever discrimination the state of California now does permit, I can assure you the United States Constitution does not. OK, now... we just can't lose. (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) Captions by Tracey Dawson. www.able.co.nz Captions were made with the support of NZ On Air. Copyright Able 2017